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Neither George W nor George HW Bush will endorse Donald Trump

Good for them, and I actually hope neither one ever does endorse Trump. After Trump said in the debate that Bush intentionally lied about WMDs in Iraq (one of Trump's many Liberal stances that his supporters love to ignore), he doesn't deserve their support.
 
Memo to both Bushes: "I don't support Trump" means I support Hilary. Duh!

At least those two geniuses are consistent in not liking a guy with ten times the brains.

One gave us Gulf 1, 10 billion in expenses and 146 dead. His son: Iraq War, 4500 dead, thousands wounded, PTSD, and trillions in wasted money for a total loss. With Trump in the WH, they would still be sending half of their oil to us for free for the next hundred years.

Did you have the same view about Republicans and conservatives who sat out the vote when the Republican nominee was John McCain and Mitt Romney? Were those conservatives supporting Barack Obama? It seems clear to me that Mitt Romney would be President now if social and religious conservatives hadn't decided not to vote for a Mormon and a man who had questionable social conservative credentials.

Sometimes people who are principled put those principles above political expediency. That's to be respected.

In addition, family loyalty is also to be respected.

Finally, I have far more respect for two men who actually won the Presidency than any who criticize them after the fact. Bush senior is one of the most honorable men ever to serve your country and Bush junior has stayed out of politics sent he left the Presidency, saying from the start that his time in politics was over, and he's honoured that commitment as most Presidents should. Your disrespect for these two men says a lot more about you than it does about them.
 
Good for them, and I actually hope neither one ever does endorse Trump. After Trump said in the debate that Bush intentionally lied about WMDs in Iraq (one of Trump's many Liberal stances that his supporters love to ignore), he doesn't deserve their support.

Not to mention the fact that he does not have a Conservative bone in his body and he only pretends to be a Christian or hold to their values. The guy leaves a slim trail behind him everywhere he goes.
 
This is the reinvention of the republican party so as to conform with the malignant ideology on which it reared its base. In a sense, Trump is the messiah the party needed to alleviate the dissonance that was unhinging it. So yea, it's only natural for delusional republicans to repudiate his candidacy.
 
Probably good news for Trump.

His whole candidacy is about a shift away from the current establishment. I don't see how it would have worked in his favor to have them buddy up and start singing him empty praises.
 
This is the reinvention of the republican party so as to conform with the malignant ideology on which it reared its base. In a sense, Trump is the messiah the party needed to alleviate the dissonance that was unhinging it. So yea, it's only natural for delusional republicans to repudiate his candidacy.

Sounds great until one grasp the fact that Trump is not a Conservative and is a life long Democrat.:doh
 
'Non-endorsements come as Trump becomes presumptive nominee and many have tried to come to terms with fact that he will be party’s standard-bearer'

'Neither George HW nor George W Bush, the only two living former Republican presidents of the United States, will endorse Donald Trump.

In statements released to the Guardian on Wednesday evening, spokesmen for both former presidents said they would be sitting out the 2016 election. Freddy Ford, a spokesman for George W Bush, told the Guardian: “President George W Bush does not plan to participate in or comment on the presidential campaign.”

The statement by the 43rd president was echoed in one released by his father. Jim McGrath, a spokesman for George HW Bush, told the Guardian: “At age 91, President Bush is retired from politics. He naturally did a few things to help Jeb, but those were the ‘exceptions that proved the rule’.”'

Neither George W nor George HW Bush will endorse Donald Trump | US news | The Guardian


Thoughts?

My thoughts are that if Trump gets elected ol' W better worry about War Crimes prosecution.
 
Sounds great until one grasp the fact that Trump is not a Conservative and is a life long Democrat.:doh

Which doesn't really matter. Besides, there's a case to be made regarding Trump's conservatism when it comes to trade policies, immigration, nationalism, and attitude towards women.

Trump is the republican strand of conservative minus the religiosity; republican elites are simply in denial that the party and its ideology are that abject.
 
1. Did you have the same view about Republicans and conservatives who sat out the vote when the Republican nominee was John McCain and Mitt Romney? Were those conservatives supporting Barack Obama?

2. Sometimes people who are principled put those principles above political expediency. That's to be respected.

3. In addition, family loyalty is also to be respected.

4. Finally, I have far more respect for two men who actually won the Presidency than any who criticize them after the fact. Bush senior is one of the most honorable men ever to serve your country and Bush junior has stayed out of politics sent he left the Presidency, saying from the start that his time in politics was over, and he's honoured that commitment as most Presidents should. Your disrespect for these two men says a lot more about you than it does about them.

1. Yes. Yes.
2. Principles are in math. In two-party politics, you are either with me or against me.
3. Family loyalty is good for the family. When the nation's welfare is at stake, nothing should matter, not loyalties, not friendships, not one's religion. Nothing.
4. Bush senior was a globalist with no interest in getting the US the best deal he could have in Kuwait.

The junior should have been impeached for being criminally stupid with Iraq and the WMD. Who gives a s*** if Saddam has WMD? A dozen of other countries have WMD, including our dear and so reliable allies like Pakistan - an Islamic s***hole. A single email to Saddam was all that was needed to take care of Saddam's WMD's. But this solution would not give the guy the "legacy" they all crave, no matter the cost.

I could have written that email myself for the president to whom English felt like a foreign language. At least the current one knows how to screw with us in perfect English.
 
Which doesn't really matter. Besides, there's a case to be made regarding Trump's conservatism when it comes to trade policies, immigration, nationalism, and attitude towards women.

Trump is the republican strand of conservative minus the religiosity; republican elites are simply in denial that the party and its ideology are that abject.

But it Should matter to Conservatives within the GOP, and fortunately it does seem to matter to many Republicans.
 
Romney will also not be attending the convention, and I think not endorsing.

Thank God , the party went down hill with his run for President ! :lamo
 
My thoughts are that if Trump gets elected ol' W better worry about War Crimes prosecution.

Where do you come up with that gem ? Is killary talking to the right now ?
 
But it Should matter to Conservatives within the GOP, and fortunately it does seem to matter to many Republicans.

Let me elaborate. The GOP promotes two variants of conservatism: one for the elites and party's insiders and another for the republican base. Trump conforms to the latter, and as such, he's a conservative, again, minus the religiosity. This explains why he's doing well among the base while facing rejection by the party. This is the dissonance I'm speaking of, the dissonance with which he's facing the party's leadership to come to term.
 
Trump is the republican strand of conservative minus the religiosity.

How's that?! Anti-trade, anti-immigration, in love with eminent domain abuse, oblivious of the First Amendment, "don't you dare to touch the entitlements", "pull out of NATO", etc, etc. Not exactly a Ronald Reagan kind of guy...
 
Which doesn't really matter. Besides, there's a case to be made regarding Trump's conservatism when it comes to trade policies, immigration, nationalism, and attitude towards women.

Trump is the republican strand of conservative minus the religiosity; republican elites are simply in denial that the party and its ideology are that abject.

I'm a conservative woman. Can you please tell me what is conservative about Trump's attitude towards women exactly?
 
Romney and the Bush's can go to hell for this amateurish behavior.

I'm not a Trump guy myself, but he beat Romney's ass in comparison with the votes that they received.

The common everyday people of the republican party have their man, now they will have to sink or swim with him.
 
1. Yes. Yes.
2. Principles are in math. In two-party politics, you are either with me or against me.
3. Family loyalty is good for the family. When the nation's welfare is at stake, nothing should matter, not loyalties, not friendships, not one's religion. Nothing.
4. Bush senior was a globalist with no interest in getting the US the best deal he could have in Kuwait.

The junior should have been impeached for being criminally stupid with Iraq and the WMD. Who gives a s*** if Saddam has WMD? A dozen of other countries have WMD, including our dear and so reliable allies like Pakistan - an Islamic s***hole. A single email to Saddam was all that was needed to take care of Saddam's WMD's. But this solution would not give the guy the "legacy" they all crave, no matter the cost.

I could have written that email myself for the president to whom English felt like a foreign language. At least the current one knows how to screw with us in perfect English.

Are you always so irrationally inconsistent in your views? According to you, above, nothing matters only party unity and support and yet you spew venom against the two of your Party's leaders who are still alive who last served your country in the Presidency. According to your own words, you are a hypocrite without principles, which many would consider a perfect description of anyone who would consider Trump a conservative and/or a Republican.
 
'Non-endorsements come as Trump becomes presumptive nominee and many have tried to come to terms with fact that he will be party’s standard-bearer'

'Neither George HW nor George W Bush, the only two living former Republican presidents of the United States, will endorse Donald Trump.

In statements released to the Guardian on Wednesday evening, spokesmen for both former presidents said they would be sitting out the 2016 election. Freddy Ford, a spokesman for George W Bush, told the Guardian: “President George W Bush does not plan to participate in or comment on the presidential campaign.”

The statement by the 43rd president was echoed in one released by his father. Jim McGrath, a spokesman for George HW Bush, told the Guardian: “At age 91, President Bush is retired from politics. He naturally did a few things to help Jeb, but those were the ‘exceptions that proved the rule’.”'

Neither George W nor George HW Bush will endorse Donald Trump | US news | The Guardian


Thoughts?

It seems to me this is par for the course. I believe the example of staying out of politics for the most part was established by GHWB. GWB also seems to have followed his fathers example, only briefly speaking on his brothers behalf shortly before Jeb's campaign wrapped up.

Since the Bushes have already established this "no comment" attitude, I'm not sure why their lack of comment is newsworthy.
 
1. Yes. Yes.
2. Principles are in math. In two-party politics, you are either with me or against me.
3. Family loyalty is good for the family. When the nation's welfare is at stake, nothing should matter, not loyalties, not friendships, not one's religion. Nothing.
4. Bush senior was a globalist with no interest in getting the US the best deal he could have in Kuwait.

The junior should have been impeached for being criminally stupid with Iraq and the WMD. Who gives a s*** if Saddam has WMD? A dozen of other countries have WMD, including our dear and so reliable allies like Pakistan - an Islamic s***hole. A single email to Saddam was all that was needed to take care of Saddam's WMD's. But this solution would not give the guy the "legacy" they all crave, no matter the cost.

I could have written that email myself for the president to whom English felt like a foreign language. At least the current one knows how to screw with us in perfect English.

You talk about party loyalty, and being with me or against me, then go on to eviscerate 2 previous party leaders.

Were you being intentionally ironic?
 
I'm a conservative woman. Can you please tell me what is conservative about Trump's attitude towards women exactly?

Like with Abortion, Trump's attitudes towards women is not the conservative attitude towards women, but rather what liberals think the conservative attitude towards women is.
 
Romney and the Bush's can go to hell for this amateurish behavior.

I'm not a Trump guy myself, but he beat Romney's ass in comparison with the votes that they received.

:shrug: and lost in percentages - Romney was far more widely accepted by the party, and also didn't embarrass it.

If you want to bust on someone for amateurish behavior, I don't think it's two former Presidents declining to comment, I think you might want to start with

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:shrug: and lost in percentages - Romney was far more widely accepted by the party, and also didn't embarrass it.

If you want to bust on someone for amateurish behavior, I don't think it's two former Presidents declining to comment, I think you might want to start with

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I also never recall Romney making fun of the face of a female politician, calling one of his opponents a "pu$$y" in a crowded rally, and saying that his daughter had the "best body" and suggesting that he would date her if she wasn't his daughter.
 
'Non-endorsements come as Trump becomes presumptive nominee and many have tried to come to terms with fact that he will be party’s standard-bearer'

'Neither George HW nor George W Bush, the only two living former Republican presidents of the United States, will endorse Donald Trump.

In statements released to the Guardian on Wednesday evening, spokesmen for both former presidents said they would be sitting out the 2016 election. Freddy Ford, a spokesman for George W Bush, told the Guardian: “President George W Bush does not plan to participate in or comment on the presidential campaign.”

The statement by the 43rd president was echoed in one released by his father. Jim McGrath, a spokesman for George HW Bush, told the Guardian: “At age 91, President Bush is retired from politics. He naturally did a few things to help Jeb, but those were the ‘exceptions that proved the rule’.”'

Neither George W nor George HW Bush will endorse Donald Trump | US news | The Guardian


Thoughts?

Last night I saw people on FreeRepublic calling the Bush duo RINOs. lol...I hope they realize Trump is the ultimate RINO. Maybe not. But, they will learn the truth soon enough.
 
Like exactly how she has tried attacking him so far..
Yeah use lies against him..

1. Take oil from ISIS.. Why not?
2. Pretty niice thing to say about a group of peope in which 100%, ALL, EVERY LAST ONE of them are CRIMINALS!! So saying some of these CRIMINALS are probably good people i a heck of a compliment..
3. If something is illegal they should be punished for breaking the law.. Women that have late term abortions where it is ILLEGAL should absolutely be punshed..


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Donald Trump, a champion of women? His female employees think so.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...afac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html

Trump hires more female executives than men (PROOF))
https://www.facebook.com/donaldtrumppresident/videos/474082309421664/




Trump is smarter than her for one.. He will kill her in debates just like he did ALL the rest.. There has not yet been one dabate that Trump has not won..

Trump is going to win..

Yes. I am sure you believe that Trump is all that. But I am from New York. I knew Trump when he was a strong supporter of Democrats. I knew the people that got hurt when he bankrupted the Taj Mahal Casino.

No doubt he is a great salesman. I'll give him that. He could sell yellow snow to an Eskimo. but he has no substance.

His campaign is reminiscent of what he promised when he spoke to the Gaming Board when getting clearance to purchase the Taj Mahal. His whole argument was "because I am Trump".

And I think it was 18 months and it was in bankruptcy.

"take the oil why not".? Gee maybe because China and Russia might get a little concerned when the US has control of oil they need? Maybe because a fight over resources is how world war's start?

Champion of women? Oh I am sure he puts them on a pedestal high enough to look up their dress. His feelings toward women are well known especially his contempt. As he has already displayed this during the debates.

Trump did not say "they are criminals".. nice spin.. he said: They are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime., They are rapists and some, I assume, are good people".

Trump certainly has a chance.. I'll give him that. Like I said he is a great salesman and people hate Hillary.
 
1. Are you always so irrationally inconsistent in your views?
2. According to you, above, nothing matters only party unity and support and yet you spew venom against the two of your Party's leaders who are still alive who last served your country in the Presidency.
3. According to your own words, you are a hypocrite without principles, which many would consider a perfect description of anyone who would consider Trump a conservative and/or a Republican.

1. Consistency, aka predictability, is sheer idiocy in any fight. That is why Trump is perfect for the presidency. Add to this a little irrationality and our enemies will wonder what will hit them next. Right now, the US is like an old city bus, overloaded with the illegals hanging on to every crease and rivet. Running on fumes, predictable and pity-inducing.

2. Party unit matters above all in a fight for power. That's what the American communists like Pelosi, Reid, and Obama are so good at. The noble, polite, gentlemanly, and non-confrontational idiots, the Republicans, are like little kids who just stepped out of Civics 101 class. Smiling and ready for the slaughter.

3. Only liars claim that they are not hypocrites. Hypocrisy, just like lying, is good. Call Bill and Hill if you have any doubts. Islam actually treats lying as an approved means of conquest.

Do you treat your family the same way as you treat perfect strangers?

I am for death penalty. If my son was sentenced to death, in a millisecond I would be arguing against it. Wouldn't you?

I answered all your questions. Let's see if you will answer mine without any bull or lengthy essays, full of if's and "on the other hand".
 
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