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UnitedHealth to trim ACA exchanges to 'handful' of states

No, that's a "non sequitur" on your part. Apparently you just want to use this thread as a platform to bitch. Carry on.

What's to discuss? United Healthcare can't afford to participate in Obamacare. None of the insurance companies can. They're bailing.

Hopefully, soon, we can repeal this abortion of a bill and get people involved that actually understand the medical industry, and fix it.

Obamacare just made things infinitely worse than they already were.
 
What's to discuss? United Healthcare can't afford to participate in Obamacare. None of the insurance companies can. They're bailing.

Hopefully, soon, we can repeal this abortion of a bill and get people involved that actually understand the medical industry, and fix it.

Obamacare just made things infinitely worse than they already were.

Next stop: single payer universal healthcare.
 
Cuba, here we come!!

Yes, because NO OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH has universal healthcare. Nope, can't think of a single other example. Not a one.

Juuuust Cuba.
 
Yes, because NO OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH has universal healthcare. Nope, can't think of a single other example. Not a one.

Juuuust Cuba.

Almost 50 percent of Americans don't pay federal taxes. I assure you, those folks won't be paying for healthcare either. This is about redistribution of wealth, and securing a dependent voting base. It's not about "sharing" anything.
 
From the OP...
"But some companies, like Molina Healthcare, have said they have managed to turn a profit from the exchanges."

Seems to be a management problem.


Meanwhile from yesterdays article from The Hill.

GOP group promises ObamaCare replacement plan — soon

“Give us a little time, another month or so,” House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) told reporters this week. “I think we’ll be pretty close to a Republican alternative.”

GOP group promises ObamaCare replacement plan — soon | TheHill

Whaaaat? They've been saying that since 2009, but just give us another month or so and we'll really, really be 'pretty close'.

What a joke these clowns are.


A while back one congressional GOP health aide, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly, said "As far as repeal and replace goes, the problem with replace is that if you really want people to have these new benefits, it looks a hell of a lot like the Affordable Care Act. ... To make something like that work, you have to move in the direction of the ACA.
 
Almost 50 percent of Americans don't pay federal taxes. I assure you, those folks won't be paying for healthcare either. This is about redistribution of wealth, and securing a dependent voting base. It's not about "sharing" anything.

Do you have a board with random responses you're throwing a dart at? You are all over the map in this thread.
 
Do you have a board with random responses you're throwing a dart at? You are all over the map in this thread.

Just responding to your gleeful obsession with universal healthcare. The medical community does not share your glee.
 
Not for me!

You guys can share the C-student doctors at the community clinic. I'm in a private share outside the system where the real doctors are flocking to.

Medical aristocracy.

You will live longer, enjoy a much greater health span and quality of life, and save money by paying for a gym membership (and using it) as well as maintaining a strict whole foods diet rather than paying 5k a year for boutique healthcare through a GP. A triathlete with a c-student doctor will be a lot healthier than the average guy paying for the most expensive doctors in his city will be.

I can see, call, or email my GP anytime I want without having to pay 5k a year - which by the way is a pretty piss poor use of your personal healthcare dollars considering that any chronic condition requiring a hospital visit or visit to a specialist will cost you exponentially more than that and none of your 5k a year will go towards it.
 
You will live longer, enjoy a much greater health span and quality of life, and save money by paying for a gym membership (and using it) as well as maintaining a strict whole foods diet rather than paying 5k a year for boutique healthcare through a GP. A triathlete with a c-student doctor will be a lot healthier than the average guy paying for the most expensive doctors in his city will be.

I can see, call, or email my GP anytime I want without having to pay 5k a year - which by the way is a pretty piss poor use of your personal healthcare dollars considering that any chronic condition requiring a hospital visit or visit to a specialist will cost you exponentially more than that and none of your 5k a year will go towards it.

Got a gym in my home and use it every day. And your triathlete can still develop health issues. Don't kid yourself. DNA has a lot to do with it.

I do need healthcare for my family. And with our plan, we have access to specialists within our hospital that don't charge us what a typical patient would see. In fact, much of it is included. It's awesome.

This is going to be a top 2% type of service though. Most folks will see their care decline while their taxes skyrocket.
 
Seems to be a management problem.

Pretty much. Their management chose to take the risk and wound up expanding too rapidly into markets they didn't have the financial infrastructure to support. Now they're just looking for a scapegoat to throw under the bus for their poor financial planning.
 
Got a gym in my home and use it every day. And your triathlete can still develop health issues. Don't kid yourself. DNA has a lot to do with it.

I do need healthcare for my family. And with our plan, we have access to specialists within our hospital that don't charge us what a typical patient would see. In fact, much of it is included. It's awesome.

This is going to be a top 2% type of service though. Most folks will see their care decline while their taxes skyrocket.

Do you only have this 5000 dollar a year plan or some type of high deductible insurance policy as well? If you don't have insurance as well, you will end up on Medicaid should God forbid one of you get cancer.

Diet, exercise and lifestyle in general is far more important in terms of your health than how expensive your doctor is and that is regardless of your genetics. For example, heart disease, cancer, and type 2 diabetes all run in my family. I am a month shy of 40, and I have maintained a strict whole foods diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains and cold water fishes for most of my adult life. I strength train regularly, run 40 miles a week on average, and ride anywhere from 50 to 100 miles a week depending on what I am training for. I have also never smoked and don't drink much. So despite my genetics my health assessments show the following:

Average BP: 110/67
Resting Heart Rate: Low 40s. (the level of a college athlete)
Maximum Heart Rate: Over 200 BPM (the level of a college athlete)
Body Fat Percentage: Between 6 and 10% depending on what I am training for - I have 6 pack abs.
Calcium Score: 0 - I have absolutely no evidence of any arterial sclerosis at all.
Average Non Fasting Blood Glucose: 80 mg/dL

That is all despite the fact that I am Hypothyroid.

So despite being a month away from 40, I have the health of a fit 20 year old. You can spend 10,000 dollars a year on a GP and you can't buy that health. Health and well being is something you cannot buy, you must do it yourself. This is why no healthcare plan government or not will fix our healthcare system because we have the most expensive doctors and drugs in the world and we have a population the majority of whom do not eat right and exercise sufficiently but think that healthcare and a bunch of testing and drugs will be a panacea for that.
 
Pretty much. Their management chose to take the risk and wound up expanding too rapidly into markets they didn't have the financial infrastructure to support. Now they're just looking for a scapegoat to throw under the bus for their poor financial planning.

Awesome !!

Whoever wins the Democrat primary should use that line of delusional festering bull****

" ObamaCare is great but the evil and greedy Insurance Companies are destroying it "

Or just keep saying how awesome it is. You know, like the Democrats did in the last Midterms !!

Oh wait, they didn't blame ObamaCare on the Insurance Companies or the GOP OR say it was awesome.

Probably because they realized the average American voter wasn't a absolutely imbecile and wouldn't buy it.

They pretended ObamaCare didn't exist. They pretended Obama didn't exist.

And they still got their asses handed to them. They were going to turn my State ( Texas...Yay Texas !! ) Blue !

Remember that ? Texas is Redder, we added GOP seats ! Lol
 
What's to discuss? United Healthcare can't afford to participate in Obamacare. None of the insurance companies can. They're bailing.

Hopefully, soon, we can repeal this abortion of a bill and get people involved that actually understand the medical industry, and fix it.

Obamacare just made things infinitely worse than they already were.

Typical BS! I've been able to buy insurance because of Obamacare. There are millions like me who disagree with you smelly pile of poop. Without it I would not have found out about a condition I have that would have killed me.
 
Just responding to your gleeful obsession with universal healthcare. The medical community does not share your glee.

My doctor love it. Do you often speak for people you don't even know?
 
UnitedHealth to trim ACA exchanges to 'handful' of states

fine by me. if more insurance companies jump ship, then it becomes easier to expand Medicare to cover everyone via a public option first and then Medicare for all once the makeup of congress changes.
 
There's another advantage too.

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Funny, because I am pretty certain things got worse every time the government stepped in to try and run/manage pieces of the insurance industry. Things were far better before the government started trying to get companies to set up HMO's etc...
HMO's began as a group policy to control costs.....and were invented by....large industry/corporations.
 
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