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Video Shows Texas School Officer Body-Slamming 12-Year-Old Girl

buck said:
She was reportedly kicking the cop... She was only restrained after the cop took her down and handcuffed her. It's not revenge. It's a take down maneuver. The grab and take down was one maneuver.. Or so I suspect based on what we know and the editing of the video by the mom or the blogger to start at a selected spot.
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I watched the video.

If that cop cannot simply restrain a 12 year old girl long enough to put handcuffs on her, he needs to be put on leave while he hits the gym until he can. Oh wait, we know he can because he lifted her in the air before face-planting her on the ground.

Was she kicking him at the time? No. He had her by either arm and was force-marching her out.

And like I said, I don't want government agents to feel that they are free to inflict physical injury simply because they're mad at who they are arresting. Government agents invested with the power of life or death over the citizenry need to be held to higher standards than the citizenry.

Argue for greater pay or benefits if you want. But not the right to bodyslam snotty pre-teen girls.



Fun fact: you'll go to jail if you do that to your own daughter, "kicks" or not.
 
cpwill said:
Dumb kid assaults cop, gets thrown to ground. Good on cop for not tasering.
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You don't have to answer, but I at least need to bounce of this remark....


In general, conservatives speak a lot and loudly about the need to restrain government, especially in regard to government's actions against the citizenry. Why is it that conservatives seem to be the biggest defenders of the police - government agents - use excessive violence against criminals?

Even little girls? Exactly the same kind of comments were being made in the threads about the cop who was caught on film picking up a desk and the girl who was sitting in it, flipping it over, and dropping her right on her head - then throwing her across the room. Oh, she was being rude. She was being disrespectful. She deserved it.

Shouldn't people who claim to value a small restrained government have the biggest problem with police beating on little girls, no matter how snotty they are? They're citizens, too.
 
I'm still trying to understand why the cop felt the need to restrain the girl. There was no fight.
 
Mr Person said:
Was she kicking him at the time? No. He had her by either arm and was force-marching her out.
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Not really.. He was trying to gain control of her, which she was resisting.
 
Tettsuo said:
I'm still trying to understand why the cop felt the need to restrain the girl. There was no fight.
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Tried to stop the situation peacefully, then the girl kept trying to kick the cop in the balls. Most cops would feel the need to restrain her at that point.

I've heard some guys like that kind of thing, maybe you are one of them and wouldn't feel the need to stop her. Not sure.
 
Mr Person said:
In general, conservatives speak a lot and loudly about the need to restrain government, especially in regard to government's actions against the citizenry. Why is it that conservatives seem to be the biggest defenders of the police - government agents - use excessive violence against criminals?
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It is BECAUSE we have respect for individual rights that we do so. Government is instituted to defend us and our rights. When those are threatened or attacked, as with criminals, I want a government that is vigorous in my defense.

As a general rule, I also recognize that civilization is fragile. We are only ever one generation from losing it. When you teach people that they can break the rules and do violence to others and their property with no consequences, you are teaching them to destroy the artifice of civilization that decent lives and decent living depend on.

Even little girls? Exactly the same kind of comments were being made in the threads about the cop who was caught on film picking up a desk and the girl who was sitting in it, flipping it over, and dropping her right on her head - then throwing her across the room. Oh, she was being rude. She was being disrespectful. She deserved it.

Shouldn't people who claim to value a small restrained government have the biggest problem with police beating on little girls, no matter how snotty they are? They're citizens, too.
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You seem to have "being rude" confused with "physically attacking someone". If this is an issue for you, PM me your address. I'll come kick you in the balls until it becomes clearer. cpwill predicts that realization would take very few iterations.

Both those girls refused to obey the law, refused to obey lawful authority, initiated violence, and lost. Good. Hopefully they and their classmates learn from the example. Unfortunately, significant sections of society seem bound and determined to teach them that, when they abuse others, they are the actual victims. So instead of learning a valuable lesson that could have saved them and others more pain later, they end up feeling vindicated on their bad behavior. Then we'll bemoan the fact that they carry that mentality into adulthood, and wonder if we should blame " systemic poverty" for their criminal activity. :roll:

It is neither caring nor kind to fail to discipline in the moment when someone's actions require it. It is crippling that person's ability to function in society and putting others at risk so that you can selfishly self-indulge.
 
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Mr Person said:
Some us in the alleged "land of the free, home of the brave" do not think that agents of the government are here to mete out physical revenge for someone's past misdeeds.

That's something that belongs in places like Russia.
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Whose talking about past misdeeds? I'm not. If Michael Brown hadn't been a thug on drugs he would have never been stopped by Darren Wilson in the first place. If many of these people hadn't been trying to resist arrest for crimes they just committed, then they wouldn't have been shot dead by police. If this girl hadn't been fighting and kicking a police officer, she would have never been body slammed down to the ground. As far as past misdeeds go, I say if you have been arrested for crimes five times, including non-violent crimes, then you should be put in jail for life. Why should I or my family be victimized by a career criminal? Career criminals have zero value to society. In fact, they have a negative effect on society.
 
j-mac said:
He did restrain her. You just didn't like the method.

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Looks like his bosses thought this thug cop deserved to lose his job. Good! This dude needs a less strenuous career choice.
 
Texmex said:
Looks like his bosses thought this thug cop deserved to lose his job. Good! This dude needs a less strenuous career choice.
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Being a cop sucks. You don't get paid well, often needing second jobs, you put your life on the line, you arrest the very same people over and over again because the system lets these people right back out, and you can't be human and overreact to anything at all. And now we hear that cop killings are at an all time high because they have to hesitate and second guess themselves all the time so they don't wind up on t.v. and the next thing you know, they are dead because they didn't react quick enough.
 
Moderate Right said:
Being a cop sucks. You don't get paid well, often needing second jobs, you put your life on the line, you arrest the very same people over and over again because the system lets these people right back out, and you can't be human and overreact to anything at all. And now we hear that cop killings are at an all time high because they have to hesitate and second guess themselves all the time so they don't wind up on t.v. and the next thing you know, they are dead because they didn't react quick enough.
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Cry me a ****ing river!

Nobody makes anyone apply to become a police officer, they aren't drafted. If a person wants the job, they accept all the risks. I do know that I am sick and tired of hearing cops bitch about how dangerous their job is. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
Texmex said:
Cry me a ****ing river!

Nobody makes anyone apply to become a police officer, they aren't drafted. If a person wants the job, they accept all the risks. I do know that I am sick and tired of hearing cops bitch about how dangerous their job is. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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That's the trouble. It isn't worth being a cop anymore and if it gets worse, there will be no one applying to be a cop.
 
Interesting how the left are union diehards. Unions are famous for not allowing people to be fired from their jobs and will fight it at all costs. Isn't there a police union? Where are they?
 
Moderate Right said:
That's the trouble. It isn't worth being a cop anymore and if it gets worse, there will be no one applying to be a cop.
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Not likely.

Humans are a diverse lot, and some of them will always want to be a cop. Gets much more complicated after that, as Philip Zimbardo discovered in his Stanford Prison Experiment in the 70s.
 
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