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Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter[W:155**494**]

Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

This is what you said:

"I just read that the Florida prosecutor who brought the charges..."

To help you out, I bolded it -- Aronberg is not the one who "brought the charges."

The State has not even rec'd the case.“Law enforcement charges on a probable cause standard,” said Mike Edmondson, a spokesman for State Attorney Dave Aronberg, who said his office does not have the case file yet. “The State has to proceed on a legally higher standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt as well to whether there is a reasonable likelihood of a conviction. Both legal and ethical standards for the State.”
“At this point the State has not received the case,” Edmondson said"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...case-is-there-a-chance-he-wont-be-prosecuted/

Ooooooh ... is THAT what you meant.
I stand corrected.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

Is it possible you might be wrong?

Maybe, but I doubt it.

Yo don't know what is going on here and nobody here cares what is going on with Trump.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

Trump has supported Lewandowski since the accusations first surfaced. First he denied it ever happened. Then he denied the video footage existed. Then he said the video footage showed nothing. And now he is arguing that Fields prompted the whole thing by first grabbing Trump while holding a pen (which Trump says Secret Service could have easily mistaken for a tiny bomb).

How Trump has responded to the whole thing is an example of a campaign tactic he has used all along: Even in the face of overwhelming evidence contradicting contradicting his statements, he does not back down and he definitely does not apologize.

And while politicians are notorious for ducking the truth and skirting apologies, Trump's campaign has taken it to another level – where photographic evidence and violence is not enough to change his tune.

Trump began tweeting his take on the evidence: that "nothing" questionable happened.

The "nothing" quickly transformed into what will undoubtedly be part of Lewandowski's defense of the incident, when Trump tweeted that Fields prompted the campaign manager's aggressive response by grabbing him to "shout questions" at him.
The mess surrounding Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and reporter Michelle Fields, explained - Vox
Moral of the story is this: Trump is a scumbag, Corey Lewandowski is a scumbag, many top Trump campaign officials are scumbags, and Breitbart is a **** "new media outlet".
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

Yes I know about Weinstein being her boyfriend that was also in the Politico piece. Terris was named in the piece as being the one who identified Lewandowski because Michelle did not know who had strong armed her. They never call Terris by name as the eye witness source of the story.

Lewandoski has lied from the very beginning saying he did not touch Michelle and never met her. Then he called Terris out that there was another man with short hair in a suit close to Trump that could have done it. The video Trump released to the police clearly shows Lewandoski going after Fields. Trump's campaign have had this information from the beginning yet chose to keep it under wraps while trashing Fields. This clown has been tossing personal attack bombs throughout this campaign and turned it into a sham. People are fed up with him and it is showing in the polls. Today the latest poll out of Wisconsin shows Cruz up 10 points over Trump. In California Cruz and Trump are in a dead heat. People know how much is riding on this next election. Serious issues before us and they are realizing Trump isn't up to the task nor does he have the demeanor to be president.

Maybe I misunderstood your post. You said there were 2 other witnesses (aside from Terris), and one of them was from the Daily Caller. He wasn't a witness. He's her boyfriend and he wasn't there. I remember them talking, maybe on Morning Joe, about Terris being the only witness. If there is another one, he won't be able to remain anonymous long. He'll have to testify at Corey's trial, assuming there is one.

As for the rest, you're preaching to the choir here. You have to know my feelings on Trump by now (see the #NeverTrump in my user panel). Of course Lewandowski lied. He's a nasty piece of work. Like Trump. I know some people who know him well, he's from NH. They say he's a sonofabitch. I voted for Rubio in NH in February, and have said I won't vote for Trump in November. But that doesn't mean I see some weird things in this story. By the legal definition, it was battery. I wouldn't have called it battery based on those videos. That's just me.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

I'm not familiar with the Bizpac Review but ...

Secret Service agent reportedly told Michelle Fields to stop touching Trump before campaign manager intervened | BizPac Review

" “She crossed in between agents and our protectee after being told not to,” the Secret Service agent, who was present during the alleged squabble, told the Daily Mail." "
here's the Daily Mail link mentioned ...
Corey Lewandowski charged with battery over Michelle Fields at Donald Trump rally | Daily Mail Online
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

Maybe I misunderstood your post. You said there were 2 other witnesses (aside from Terris), and one of them was from the Daily Caller. He wasn't a witness. He's her boyfriend and he wasn't there. I remember them talking, maybe on Morning Joe, about Terris being the only witness. If there is another one, he won't be able to remain anonymous long. He'll have to testify at Corey's trial, assuming there is one.

As for the rest, you're preaching to the choir here. You have to know my feelings on Trump by now (see the #NeverTrump in my user panel). Of course Lewandowski lied. He's a nasty piece of work. Like Trump. I know some people who know him well, he's from NH. They say he's a sonofabitch. I voted for Rubio in NH in February, and have said I won't vote for Trump in November. But that doesn't mean I see some weird things in this story. By the legal definition, it was battery. I wouldn't have called it battery based on those videos. That's just me.
That wasn't my intent to make it three witnesses. Just two with one being the WaPo reporter. It was a presser that was well attended by the media. The point about the senior editor at Daily Caller is because from what I could find he was the first person that went to twitter about the ordeal. Even in his tweets he makes it known that Michelle is his girlfriend. And it is in the world of twitter where a lot of all this stuff first gets reported. What I find appalling about this whole story is Trump had the tape all this time and knew Lewandoski's story was false. And he Trump personally took the opportunity to trash Fields as someone who makes up stories for attention. That the bruises on her arm could have come from her boyfriend. Oh yes, he is one piece of work and he has his minions out there repeating the same stuff. He calls in to Fox and Friends just about every morning and the gilded toads just soak up everything he spews. It's obvious Trump can not adequately talk policy. If he does give a position in the morning often by the afternoon he changes it. But he is real good at playing the victim.

But I did read this evening that polling shows women are leaving him. He already had high negatives in the 70's with women. And I believe it is directly linked to the number of character assassinations he has been engaged in with multiple conservative women. He keeps it up and he will be at 100% real soon.
 
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Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

I never used the word conservative in the post and wouldn't. Don't know why you're on me about that I was one of the fist to note that Donald is both a liberal and a conservative meaning he's a populist using the Republican brand.

I stand with mindless lemmings.

You did post:

I used to bash American liberals

As a general rule, "liberal" is used as the opposite of "conservative". We're on the same page as to Donald Trump's politics.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

I just saw an interview with Trump's managers lawyer, and he is going to fit in with this campaign just fine. Lying his buttocks off almost all the way through the interview, ignoring evidence left right and center and doubling down in nonsense. It is clearly true that the comment "I didn't even touch her" has been proven to be a lie. But just like his Sith master he is not going to own up to anything he does so let's just let the law deal with this.

And the pathetic Trump show on his behalf "oooh his poor children" nonsense to his "I was grabbed by her, can I file" just shows that Trump is a blowheart lying double faced conman who will loose the woman's vote so badly that it is going to be a bloodbath at the polls in November.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

I just saw an interview with Trump's managers lawyer, and he is going to fit in with this campaign just fine. Lying his buttocks off almost all the way through the interview, ignoring evidence left right and center and doubling down in nonsense. It is clearly true that the comment "I didn't even touch her" has been proven to be a lie. But just like his Sith master he is not going to own up to anything he does so let's just let the law deal with this.

And the pathetic Trump show on his behalf "oooh his poor children" nonsense to his "I was grabbed by her, can I file" just shows that Trump is a blowheart lying double faced conman who will loose the woman's vote so badly that it is going to be a bloodbath at the polls in November.

Ain't America Great!! I just love watching Trump taking his shot, and even if he does not make it now everyone knows that the gatekeepers have no clue what they are doing, that they can be ignored. You wait till 4 years from now, we are going to have the best choices we have had in a GENERATION!

GO TRUMP!!!

AMERICAN HERO FIRST CLASS
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

Actually there is more evidence than just the video. Reporters who witnessed it are part of the mix, and one reporter has audio of Fields just seconds after Lewandoski grabbed her arm dragging her backwards. She was describing how painful and forceful the grab was and for a moment she thought she was going to lose her balance and be dragged to the ground. And then there is the evidence of the bruising that followed. Obviously when you put all the evidence together, the police felt there was enough there to charge Lewandoski with simple battery.

Now like any other woman who refuses to take the crap from Trump and his minions, goes through character assassination. In the last week, the Trump campaign have been engaged in the character assassination of not just Fields but Amanda Carpenter at CNN, Megyn Kelly at Fox News, and the attacks on Heidi Cruz.

The man has a women problem.

The man has everyone problems. You want women to get special treatment?
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

The man has everyone problems. You want women to get special treatment?

The man has contempt for everyone except himself (first and foremost), and his family. It's as plain as the nose on his face. He doesn't dislike women any more than he dislikes men.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

The man has contempt for everyone except himself (first and foremost), and his family. It's as plain as the nose on his face. He doesn't dislike women any more than he dislikes men.

Exactly. That's what frustrates me the most with the criticism of him being all misogynist. He's actually treating women equally and women are finding out they don't like it and call foul and want their special treatment back.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

But it is begging the question. You have to assume your impression of what is shown in the video before you can accept that she exaggerated it.
Wrong again.
The premise is her claim. The evidence to review are the videos.
Do any of the videos show her being pulled down, jolted backwards (a contradiction to the first) or her almost loosing her balance?
No they don't.
Would any of the available videos show these things if they had happened? Yes they would have.
There is no begging the question here accept by the other party who claimed she was telling the truth.


Occam's razor isn't your friend here...
No, it isn't your friend, or hers.


No it doesn't. Again, I understand how desperately you need to believe that but it shows nothing of the sort.
You are projecting.


No it doesn't. It shows him grabbing her left arm (something he denied doing) and from the angle we can see her left arm to the elbow, and his hand somewhere below that.
Wrong.
The video shows a grab on her clothing which is either of the clothing alone or of her upper arm area also. Not the forearm.
You can see his hand on the upper arm where the fabric of the upper back is also being scrunched and pulled because of the close proximity of the grab.


... (something he denied doing) ...
This denial is irrelevant as there was no attempt to purposely deceive.
Objectively and in context his reply is in response to the exaggerated claims being made.
He knows he did not try to pull anyone to the ground as was being claimed. In context he is denying the exaggerated incident.
Anyone focusing on this irrelevant information just speaks to their being unobjective. It would be like saying that Jamie Weinstein lied when he said other reporters saw it, or when he claimed he tried to pull her to the ground. He was mistaken but he did not purposely engage in deception/lie.


The video does not show such a grasp.
You are assuming facts not in evidence.
Your scenario is unlikely given that he would have to have wrap his hand around her adult forearm and have long enough fingers to do so. And it is even unlikely that such a grab would produce the bruising we see as they are pin points.
That isn't true either. I can almost wrap my hand around my own forearm and my forearm is much bigger than hers.
Wrong again. Everything I said is true.
1. The video shows his hand on her upper arm, not her elbow.
2. Whether or not you can wrap your hand around your own forearm is irrelevant to this discussion and to what I stated.
3. Almost? Funny, that doesn't cut it, nor would you get your thumb and just three digits to line up in such a row.
Such point bruising as we see is more likely from a thumb being on the opposite side giving leverage for the four fingers to make the points.
Had it been a wrap around as you want to lamely assume, you would not have the thumb line up as a point and you would also have elongated bruising from the length of the fingers, not just points.


At that point you jump headfirst down the rabbit hole arguing that a Breitbart reporter conspired with a WaPo reporter to make up a story and then she ran home and pressed four somethings into her own arm to create bruises to coroborate her made up story.
That rabbit hole seems to be all yours especially as you are arguing against (conspired), something I had not presented.
As the video only shows a grasp on the upper arm which also pulled the fabric of her upper jacket, the forearm marks had to come from something other than Lewandowski grabbing her upper arm.


How do you suppose she self inflicted those bruises?
Really? You do not think she can't grab her own forearm hard enough to inflict such bruises or even direct or agree to have someone else to do it?
As the video only shows a grasp on the upper arm which also pulled the fabric of her upper jacket, the forearm marks had to come from something other than Lewandowski's upper arm grasp.


It's not exaggerated, he grabbed her and pulled her in the opposite direction she was walking.
The exaggeration comes when they claim he was trying to pull her down. Her exaggeration also comes when she says she was jolted backwards and when she claims she almost fell to the ground when the video shows none of these things.


Her reaction, based on the video and the audio is that she walked away from the encounter complaining to the guy standing next to her.
Funny. Like I said; Her reaction does not fit her claim of being pulled down so forcefully.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

The man has everyone problems. You want women to get special treatment?

What does this have to do with women and special treatment?

From the time he went after Fiorina and his sexist comments on her looks
to his continued obsession with Megyn Kelly which has resulted in threats from people in Trumps campaign and his supporters causing Fox to release two public letters condemning Trump's behavior
to having his media guy go after Amanda Carpenter all over social media trashing her reputation on unfound accusation.....and Roger Stone the biggest sleaze in politics with ties to Trump's campaign doing the same.....
to attacking Heidi Cruz's appearance.....
to engaging in a character assassination of Michelle Fields when he knew damn well that his campaign manager strongarmed Fields.
The last two weeks have been filled with this crap and they all happen to be women.

Sure Trump has run his campaign trashing one candidate after another. He does it because he is impotent when it comes to speaking about issues in depth.
 
Re: Trump Campaign Manager Arrested, Charged with Battery of Reporter

Make America eight again:

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