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Ga. parents, offended by the ‘Far East religion’ of yoga, get ‘Namaste’ banned from

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Um, actually there is a religious aspect to yoga. At least originally.

Among the elements of the program that will be eliminated: the Sanskrit greeting “Namaste,” placing hands “to heart center” and coloring pages with the symbol of the Mandala (a spiritual symbol in Indian religions representing the cosmos).

Moore noted that a rumor had also spread about using or teaching “about crystals having healing powers.”


hmmm sounds like a religious practice to me.
 
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separation of church and state, separation of church and state.
so now that is a lame reason huh
interesting.

Separation of church and state is NOT a lame reason -- BUT, an attempt to use that constitutional requirement to stop yoga training in public schools is little more than an illustration of the ignorance far too many cling to in today's world where some seem to actually believe their Christian faith is being persecuted.
 
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Separation of church and state is NOT a lame reason -- BUT, an attempt to use that constitutional requirement to stop yoga training in public schools is little more than an illustration of the ignorance far too many cling to in today's world where some seem to actually believe their Christian faith is being persecuted.

actually it isn't.

yogi is a religious practice and or form.
so therefore if you want to be consistent in your argument of separation of church and state then yoga is out.

see you don't just get to block Christianity.
that is called discrimination.

according to the article.

Among the elements of the program that will be eliminated: the Sanskrit greeting “Namaste,” placing hands “to heart center” and coloring pages with the symbol of the Mandala (a spiritual symbol in Indian religions representing the cosmos).

Moore noted that a rumor had also spread about using or teaching “about crystals having healing powers.”

hmm sounds pretty religious.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...igion-of-yoga-get-namaste-banned-from-school/ Of course this happened in Georgia. It boils down to "things that are different that I don't understand are bad" There is no religious aspect to yoga. I'm an atheist and I've practiced it. It's a non-religious physical endeavor completely secular and only religious if somebody decides to bring that aspect into it. Total idiocy on these slack-jawed yokels part. If more people practiced yoga they would be less violence in the world.

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I think that some people would disagree with you....

Oh, and "namaste":
http://www.yogajournal.com/article/beginners/the-meaning-of-quot-namaste-quot/
"The gesture Namaste represents the belief that there is a Divine spark within each of us that is located in the heart chakra. The gesture is an acknowledgment of the soul in one by the soul in another."
 
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As others have stated, it does have a religious aspect, but that aspect is not what is taught in the vast majority of yoga studios in the US. I seriously doubt the religious aspect is being taught in schools.

yoga is a great thing to teach people of all ages. It helps strengthen the body, prevent injury, clear the mind etc...

There is nothing disgraceful about that.

I don't adhere to a reductionist metaphysics, whereby things can be separated from their original meaning arbitrarily. And it's rather hilarious for you to deny that yoga is spiritual in nature while touting its supposed spiritual benefits.

lol..... What does the easter bunny, and eggs have to do with jesus rising from the dead, why does the holiday move?

I'm not sure what relevance that has.
 
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I don't adhere to a reductionist metaphysics, whereby things can be separated from their original meaning arbitrarily. And it's rather hilarious for you to deny that yoga is spiritual in nature while touting its supposed spiritual benefits.

Ok... so if they just called it 'stretching class' you would be ok with it?

I stated that it has other religious aspects that are not typically taught in the US. I then stated that it is good for building strength in the body (not spiritual), preventing injury (not spiritual and clearing the mind (you can debate whether meditation is spiritual, but it is not specific to any one religion)
 
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Why not use something that isn't connected to a religion to help our kids increase their flexibility and whatever other positive physical benefits it provides?? I'm sure that there are a lot of alternatives. Martial arts such wing chun, rock climbing, basic simple stretching, dodgeball, playing "duck, duck, goose", etc.. Why use something that if it wasn't PC, would be banned from schools in a heartbeat? There's a stretching and exercise discipline called "Praise Moves" that has a lot of Chrsitian spirituality at it's core and if you brought this into a school, there would be lawsuits flying all over the place.
 
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I'm not sure what relevance that has.



While you lament the evils of yoga due to it not being "chrisitian" I'd just like to point out most of the trappings of an easter celebration is based on non christian traditions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar
 
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Actually, Yoga is a religious practice- adherents are called 'Yogis'. When you say you practice yoga, you're practicing a westernized version of Hatha-Yoga, one of five aspects of the discipline. The others are Raja-Yoga, Karma-Yoga, Bhakti-Yoga and Jnana-Yoga.
But yes, the yoga most people practice has had the religious aspect removed and is used mostly for stretching and, maybe, a form of meditation.
IIRC- An type of meditation - prayer has been found to have the same effects on a person. Brains scans of people meditating or praying, have the same portions of the brain activate.
 
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Yoga can lead to veganism and other tenets of liberal ideology. So, of course, the Georgia Republicans will be against it.
Sorry, I just have to repost this picture from the funny picture thread.
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1 question- the school knowing they were in the Bible belt, that they had / or had not introduced religious symbol(matter of opinion) could have done a better job of rolling this out?
Knowing the battles that are ongoing to the point of stupidity at times regarding religious, symbols in schools.
Yep they should have planned better.
Fail to plan, plan to fail
 
Re: Ga. parents, offended by the ‘Far East religion’ of yoga, get ‘Namaste’ banned fr

Right, but now there's about as much of a religious aspect to yoga as there is to Halloween.
If more churches put candy in the offering plates I'd go back!

Seriously?
You know it was invented by Buddhists right?
I think the traditional Hindu beat the Buddhist in India by a few decades.
But as the point was made, most yoga instruction do not include the Buddhist or Hindu elements.
That is probably the crux of things.

Personally I think we need to get over putting blindfolds on our kids to culture and religion period. Let them learn about all of it. The idea that a child will be contaminated by learning about things is a strange fear. I haven't seen many kids fascinated with history grow up to become mongols...
 
Re: Ga. parents, offended by the ‘Far East religion’ of yoga, get ‘Namaste’ banned fr

Ok... so if they just called it 'stretching class' you would be ok with it?

I stated that it has other religious aspects that are not typically taught in the US. I then stated that it is good for building strength in the body (not spiritual), preventing injury (not spiritual and clearing the mind (you can debate whether meditation is spiritual, but it is not specific to any one religion)

Meditation is definitely spiritual, and yoga meditation is definitely a corrupt practice.

Stretching exercises would be unobjectionable.

While you lament the evils of yoga due to it not being "chrisitian" I'd just like to point out most of the trappings of an easter celebration is based on non christian traditions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar

An Easter egg hunt isn't a spiritual exercise.
 
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I agree. We need to ban jumping jacks from gym class too. :mrgreen:

We also need to ban Good Friday as a national holiday, since it is also religious in nature.

The lengths that some will go to in order to ban something is truly ridiculous.
When did Good Friday become a national holiday?
 
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Meditation is definitely spiritual, and yoga meditation is definitely a corrupt practice.

Stretching exercises would be unobjectionable.

Yoga meditation is not a corrupt practice.

Meditation is not always spiritual either. I can meditate to clear/calm my mind, to calm the body. While it can certainly be spiritual, you are misinformed to think it always is about that.
 
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An Easter egg hunt isn't a spiritual exercise.

Yoga meditation is not a corrupt practice.

Meditation is not always spiritual either. I can meditate to clear/calm my mind, to calm the body. While it can certainly be spiritual, you are misinformed to think it always is about that.

What do you think the word "spiritual" means?
 
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Actually, Yoga is a religious practice- adherents are called 'Yogis'. When you say you practice yoga, you're practicing a westernized version of Hatha-Yoga, one of five aspects of the discipline. The others are Raja-Yoga, Karma-Yoga, Bhakti-Yoga and Jnana-Yoga.
But yes, the yoga most people practice has had the religious aspect removed and is used mostly for stretching and, maybe, a form of meditation.

You are correct and some would say more than 5 types, although most of the others are just variations of some of these five. several types or forms of yoga have spiritual/religious components to them and some primarily focus on it.
I'm not sure of the details of the article he linked as all I get is Washington post subscription page. but Namaste is just a formal greeting.
 
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What do you think the word "spiritual" means?

the two most common meanings are (1) getting in touch with ones religious beliefs/deity (2) benefiting the human mind/spirit
 
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Actually, Yoga is a religious practice- adherents are called 'Yogis'. When you say you practice yoga, you're practicing a westernized version of Hatha-Yoga, one of five aspects of the discipline. The others are Raja-Yoga, Karma-Yoga, Bhakti-Yoga and Jnana-Yoga.
But yes, the yoga most people practice has had the religious aspect removed and is used mostly for stretching and, maybe, a form of meditation.

Not to mention that western "Yoga" was heavily mixed with the TM movement which definitely is a spiritual movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation
 
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the two most common meanings are (1) getting in touch with ones religious beliefs/deity (2) benefiting the human mind/spirit

Exactly.
 
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yep... typed that response too quick... I meant to say not always religious. Ooops. :)
 
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IIRC- An type of meditation - prayer has been found to have the same effects on a person. Brains scans of people meditating or praying, have the same portions of the brain activate.

Yes. Actually, in Christian mysticism I think 'prayer' means 'meditation'. Hours spent in prayer in a monastery can't be endless beseeching for favours from God. Theresa of Avila describes a 'drawing from the well' and Jesus instructed his disciples to 'go into their inner room' (or words to that effect) when they pray.
 
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seems the tables have turned once again and double standards are exposed.

the folks around here who are usually screaming about getting religion and religious practices out of schools are now screaming it's stupid to get rid of religious practices from schools.

what's it gonna be people?.. 1 standard or 2?.. or more?

Yoga is practiced separately from religion today...the same way that 'the holidays' are practiced separately from Christianity today.

Many people recognize no religious significance around Christmas/the holidays. And the govt and public schools are welcome to celebrate it with many of it's customs and traditions and icons, as long as not explicitly discussing the religious aspects.

Seems just like this for yoga.
 
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If the yoga techniques were instead called "guided Christian meditation" it wouldn't be an issue. Give it a name that doesn't sound foreign and its all good.

Have Donald Trump sell it and it will take off with the ignorant masses.
 
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