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Republican Leaders Map a Strategy to Derail Donald Trump

Believe as you wish............but remember that political party's are not pillars of democracy.........if the party folks cannot beat him at the voting box......they will beat him at the convention........there are lots of examples of that being done............

Yes my friend.........the fat lady has yet to sing

These people who did not seem to understand until about 20 days ago that Trump is a real candidate with real people behind him even after the polls had him winning since the third week after he announced ...these same people are going to pull that off over the objection of their base?

Funny.
 
These people who did not seem to understand until about 20 days ago that Trump is a real candidate with real people behind him even after the polls had him winning since the third week after he announced ...these same people are going to pull that off over the objection of their base?

Funny.


When did you ever begin to think the GOP elitist......as ya'' refer to them................care about the base?

If you follow the news a bit you would know those folks see the "blasts" surly to occur form the base as beneficial ................


Are you still laughing?
 
So, this basically is telling me that the GOP is NOT in favor of supporting someone that, apparently, the majority of it's would be constituents support?



Pretty poor business model in a democratic environment. Just saying.

Ain't like the Democrats are much better what with the whole super delegate thing.
 
Ain't like the Democrats are much better what with the whole super delegate thing.


Yes.....

the Democratic Party in its rules for formation of delegates includes .......what you call "super delegates" which are comprised of elected officials and party officials....... The party has also creates a structure which allows its general membership select candidates of their choice as determined by various state wide elections and state conventions........

This is an inclusive and democratic method of giving all a say in who will be the party's nominee for president.........

Maybe this is the type of democratic structure the GOP should take example from.......

BTW

Have you ever heard of the Democratic party to work against a candidates as the GOP is currently doing?
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/u...lumn-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

OK FINE, but know that when you go that all in to beat Trump if Trump wins you are history, you are gone, you lose a lot of your income potential.

Me a year ago if one were to tell me the Republican party was going to rally behind Ted Cruz to defeat Donald Trump.

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So is the plan to just stop Trump or are they also trying to get a particular candidate? I don't see the establishment liking Cruz.
 
Me a year ago if one were to tell me the Republican party was going to rally behind Ted Cruz to defeat Donald Trump.

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Tell me now that they would rather have Cruz than Trump. Do they think he changes his spots? It will always be all about Ted Cruz, what is best for Ted Cruz.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/u...lumn-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

OK FINE, but know that when you go that all in to beat Trump if Trump wins you are history, you are gone, you lose a lot of your income potential.

This is really just dumb. First general question (not directed at the OP), Who thinks if Trump doesn't get the nomination but some magic he wont run anyway? So whats the plan? Instead of one person running (Trump) that america won't actually elect president let's run two (Cruz). Brilliant, they will steal votes from each other and it will guarantee the DEMs a win which already seems the likely scenario.
 
So, this basically is telling me that the GOP is NOT in favor of supporting someone that, apparently, the majority of it's would be constituents support?

Pretty poor business model in a democratic environment. Just saying.

A majority of its constituents have NOT voted for Trump.
 
So is the plan to just stop Trump or are they also trying to get a particular candidate? I don't see the establishment liking Cruz.

They want to stop Trump so that an establishment candidate can helicopter into the convention and save the Republican Party. They want Kasich or JEB! and most certainly don't want Cruz.
 
Me a year ago if one were to tell me the Republican party was going to rally behind Ted Cruz to defeat Donald Trump.

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Lol. I remember there was a time when I thought Scott Walker or Jeb Bush was going to be the nominee. Funny how things turn out.
 
How does it feel to be labeled a menace, misogynist, bigot and xenophobe by your own party? “Honestly,” he replied, “I’m with the people. The people like Trump.”

Since he prefers to rely on himself for policy advice, is he seeking out expert help on the abstruse delegate rules? “Yeah,” he said, “I have people, very good people, the best people.” No details, as usual.
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What about Mitt Romney, who’s pushing for an open convention? “He’s a jealous fool and not a bright person,” Trump said. “He’s good looking. Other than that, he’s got nothing.”

Paul Ryan, who will be leading the G.O.P. convention in Cleveland, says there could be a floor fight. But he protested that he would, no, no, never take it himself, just as he once said about the speakership.

Ryan snickered at the idea that Mexico would pay for the wall and chided Trump for warning that there would be riots at the convention if the Gasping Old Party tried to snatch the nomination. Was the speaker interested in seizing the crown himself?

“I don’t think so,” Trump said, noting that he liked Ryan and that they’d talked. “All that matters is the votes. I see people making statements about me that are harsh and yet they are calling me on the other line saying, ‘Hey, when can we get together?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/will-trump-be-dumped.html?_r=0

YOu simply can't rattle this guy. He knows what is coming and he says he is ready, he thinks the American people have his back. .
 
Lol. I remember there was a time when I thought Scott Walker or Jeb Bush was going to be the nominee. Funny how things turn out.

I remember being positive John Edwards would be the 2008 Dem nominee, and that Rick Perry would coast to the 2012 GOP nomination. I'm apparently wrong a lot.
 
So, this basically is telling me that the GOP is NOT in favor of supporting someone that, apparently, the majority of it's would be constituents support?



Pretty poor business model in a democratic environment. Just saying.

How do you figure the "majority" of its would be constituents support Trump?
 
First mistake: "Republican leaders". :2rofll:

Ain't none, son.
 
At least its not the fiery Hindenburg crashing into the Titanic like on the Democrat side... two jokes, one that should be on trial, probably should be behind bars for a while... the other just a joke, not even a very funny joke.

Poor deflect, I know it sucks when your party is splitting at the seams for all the world to see lol

Poor choice of two turds one called Trump the other Cruz

Thanks GOP!!
 
They want to stop Trump so that an establishment candidate can helicopter into the convention and save the Republican Party. They want Kasich or JEB! and most certainly don't want Cruz.

The most funny thing of all is that Romney expects it to be him!
 
Poor deflect, I know it sucks when your party is splitting at the seams for all the world to see lol

Poor choice of two turds one called Trump the other Cruz

Thanks GOP!!

No deflection at all, just an observation as comparison, and the spot on description of the two candidates on the other side, the far side.

Hey, I will take the silver lining you give, at least two turds are fertilizer from which something in the future may grow nurtured with its nutrients... better than a jail bird wanna be and a joke that just isn't funny.
 
No deflection at all, just an observation as comparison, and the spot on description of the two candidates on the other side, the far side.

Hey, I will take the silver lining you give, at least two turds are fertilizer from which something in the future may grow nurtured with its nutrients... better than a jail bird wanna be and a joke that just isn't funny.

The GOP's only hope in Nov, some fantasy involving Clinton in handcuffs. That will only happen in a neo cons wet dream.
 
I don't think the RNC is any more afraid of alienating Trump than the DNC was afraid of alienating Sanders. Both parties are a fixture in this country (like an old reading lamp in the White House...that has no light bulb) and aren't going anywhere.
 
It's really telling that when you consider the sheer amount of money spent trying to undermine Trump. You'd think these elites would want to undermine Hillary.

I realize that there are a lot of neverTrump people out there. But by refusing to support him, assuming he's the nominee, while it's not a vote for Hillary, it would be 1 less vote for Trump. So they had better start making mends with Mrs. Clinton.
 
It's really telling that when you consider the sheer amount of money spent trying to undermine Trump. You'd think these elites would want to undermine Hillary.

I realize that there are a lot of neverTrump people out there. But by refusing to support him, assuming he's the nominee, while it's not a vote for Hillary, it would be 1 less vote for Trump. So they had better start making mends with Mrs. Clinton.

This is why:

Now, folks, I'm not particularly eager to be repetitive here because there's so much new every day, but I want to go back, I've spent a couple days here trying to make the case with analogies and everything at my disposal to try to illustrate and inform just precisely how the Republican establishment is not going to sit by and let somebody take away from them what they have.

It's not just their power. I mean, that's a large element of it. But it's their entire reason for existing. Positions of standing in one of the only two major political parties in the country, there's so much tied to it. Five of the seven wealthiest counties surround Washington, DC. The networking there, the contacts, the power structure, the ladder of success that you climb there, it's well laid out. It's perfectly structured.

It is a very exclusionary club, and it is not merit based. Entry into the club is not something you can just apply for and become a member. It requires breeding. It requires certain pedigrees and resumes and education and so forth. It has provided a lot of power, a tremendous amount of wealth, huge self-esteem. These are people that walk around feeling really big about themselves. There's a lot of swagger.

People walk around, they feel very happy with themselves, very powerful, very smug, very confident, because the future is laid out, the structure is what it is. And members are taken care of. Everybody's got everybody's back. And the idea that something like this could be busted up with an election? Sorry. Not gonna tolerate it. Not gonna even give that a chance. They're going to resist whatever effort is made to wrest power from them, to assume their positions or what have you, which is how they see Trump.

So, despite all the talk that you hear -- and I think it's smoke screen talk -- from this establishment member or that particular Republican or that consultant or that lobbyist or whatever, despite talk of unity and coming together, believe me, behind the scenes there is none of that. Behind the scenes all there is is scheming that is designed to protect what they've got. That's more important than the party winning elections. Do not doubt me.
GOP Establishment Club Plots Guerilla Warfare to Take Down Donald Trump - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Rush has been on a roll lately, he gets it. A lot of people in the R elite are watching their power status and income potential vanish before their eyes, and they never saw it coming.
 
The GOP's only hope in Nov, some fantasy involving Clinton in handcuffs. That will only happen in a neo cons wet dream.
What is sad is your side will elect her despite the fact she should be in cuffs. Sad commentary for the choices on that side.

Besides, Trump will kick her, granted its like Stone Mountain monumental, fat ass right off the debate stage. It will be a no holds barred, as Trump is a no holds guy, match up. Nothing off limits and over the Hillary is not used to not being protected from all angles. Whatever Trump cannot physically push off the dais himself, he can have his regular demolition crew come in after. I think with the proper scaffolding, you know OSHA will be watching, they can get the job done.
 
GOP Is Heading For Disaster As Trump Would Be The Most Unpopular Nominee Ever
GOP Is Heading for Disaster as Trump Would Be the Most Unpopular Nominee Ever


… Donald Trump's unfavorable rating of 67% would make him the most unpopular presidential nominee in modern US political history…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...id-duke/?postshare=9981458584946426&tid=ss_tw
Donald Trump is the most unpopular presidential candidate since the former head of the Ku Klux Klan

Think of the most unlikable presidential nominee of the past thirty years. Now add 14 points to his unfavorable rating, and you have Donald Trump. For the record, the most unpopular nominee of the past three decades in either party was George H.W. Bush in 1992 (53% unfavorable). Trump makes Mitt Romney and his 52% unfavorable rating in 2012 look like Mr. Popularity.
The Washington Post broke down the approval ratings of all of the presidential nominees in the modern political era, and what they found was a historic level of unpopularity for Donald Trump. For example, Trump’s strongly unfavorable rating of 56% is three points higher than the highest presidential nominee’s unfavorable rating……….



And is good reason why the GOP is out to stop a Trump nomination

How can folks think Trump has a chance………..

....you do not recover from such a low favorability rate as above …….. because folks have made up their minds……

which we all know one hard thing to do...........It is doubtful Trump's upside down numbers will change enough by election day to matter
 
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