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To Maintain Supply of Sex Slaves, ISIS Pushes Birth Control

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Dittohead not! said:
And, so, according to your statement, they should be out raping nine year old girls.

However, they don't seem to be doing that. A billion and a half perverts would surely get the world's attention. So, where did you find your bit of information about Mohammad being a pedophile?
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Of course not but it still does not discredit the fact that Mohammad did have sex with a 9 year old.
 
PakPuk said:
Of course not but it still does not discredit the fact that Mohammad did have sex with a 9 year old.
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Well I tend to take anything from ancient religious texts with a grain of salt, but in any case I fail to see why such a thing is relevant.
 
Deuce said:
Well I tend to take anything from ancient religious texts with a grain of salt, but in any case I fail to see why such a thing is relevant.
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Relevant? I am sure Isis have raped 9 year old girls, I guess they just follow their prophet.
 
PakPuk said:
Relevant? I am sure Isis have raped 9 year old girls, I guess they just follow their prophet.
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You want to put a fictional character on trial for war crimes or something?
 
Deuce said:
You want to put a fictional character on trial for war crimes or something?
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How can you since he is long dead. If he is real or not over a billion people think he existed and a billion people worship him.
 
PakPuk said:
How can you since he is long dead. If he is real or not over a billion people think he existed and a billion people worship him.
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Hence my question about relevance. Lots of people believe a lot of things, but us civilized folk only punish those who actually do some kind of wrong. A billion plus Muslims didn't kill anybody yesterday. Why do some people think it's so important to make sure they all receive criticism over the actions of those that did kill someone yesterday? Very same day, some guy in Pasadena who goes to church on Sundays shot and killed a man. He read the very same book as all these other Christians. Same book, different outcomes. See, trouble is that these books are vague enough and varied enough that you can come up with "justification" for just about anything you want to do. Some men read the Bible and decide to feed the homeless, and some men read the Bible and decide to blow up a clinic. Just a matter of which verses and which stories you decide to cherry pick and how you interpret them. Hell, most of the time the words never mattered. Good people will do good, and bad people will do bad. They didn't need a book to tell them.

So what is it about the Koran you think is so different? Is it more effective? Some magical quality of that book over all the other ones that makes it better at driving people to behave in a certain way?

Short version: Lots of people read silly old books and do just fine. They aren't responsible for the ones that don't.
 
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Deuce said:
Hence my question about relevance. Lots of people believe a lot of things, but us civilized folk only punish those who actually do some kind of wrong. A billion plus Muslims didn't kill anybody yesterday. Why do some people think it's so important to make sure they all receive criticism over the actions of those that did kill someone yesterday? Very same day, some guy in Pasadena who goes to church on Sundays shot and killed a man. He read the very same book as all these other Christians. Same book, different outcomes. See, trouble is that these books are vague enough and varied enough that you can come up with "justification" for just about anything you want to do. Some men read the Bible and decide to feed the homeless, and some men read the Bible and decide to blow up a clinic. Just a matter of which verses and which stories you decide to cherry pick and how you interpret them. Hell, most of the time the words never mattered. Good people will do good, and bad people will do bad. They didn't need a book to tell them.

So what is it about the Koran you think is so different? Is it more effective? Some magical quality of that book over all the other ones that makes it better at driving people to behave in a certain way?

Short version: Lots of people read silly old books and do just fine. They aren't responsible for the ones that don't.
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Yet Christians are not waging jihad are they? Neither do they have their own state where they behead people. Stop using this ridiculous comparison.
 
blarg said:
um isnt that going to kill a lot of ther victims?
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It's called war that's how they won against the Nazis and that is how ISIS as a state is going to be destroyed.
 
PakPuk said:
Yet Christians are not waging jihad are they? Neither do they have their own state where they behead people. Stop using this ridiculous comparison.
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Like I said, a billion plus Muslims aren't waging jihad. And most living in "their own state" didn't exactly choose their current regime.

But you don't care about those people. For some reason, you are driven to attack the religion itself instead of those doing evil in its name. Me? I'd rather go after ISIS than some ancient storybook.
 
PakPuk said:
Yet Christians are not waging jihad are they?
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Well not all of them but it sure seems like some are:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
Ann Coulter
 
PakPuk said:
It's called war that's how they won against the Nazis and that is how ISIS as a state is going to be destroyed.
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didn't we have to invade and occupy Germany on top of bombing them

maybe its possible to kill these people without killing every one else around them
 
Deuce said:
Like I said, a billion plus Muslims aren't waging jihad. And most living in "their own state" didn't exactly choose their current regime.

But you don't care about those people. For some reason, you are driven to attack the religion itself instead of those doing evil in its name. Me? I'd rather go after ISIS than some ancient storybook.
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Only the most devout are waging jihad so yes you are correct. Did the German people choose their current regime 1933-1945?
 
blarg said:
didn't we have to invade and occupy Germany on top of bombing them

maybe its possible to kill these people without killing every one else around them
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The Kurds/Syrian government/Iraqi government can do that, enough US soldiers being killed in the region.
 
PakPuk said:
The Kurds/Syrian government/Iraqi government can do that, enough US soldiers being killed in the region.
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enough civilian deaths to
 
blarg said:
enough civilian deaths to
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Okay lets play it your way and we have a ground invasion fought over years clearing them out house by house, street by street do you really think all of those civilians are going to feel like they have come out under oppression... of course not many are still going to be fanatics who will strap on their suicide vests and start launching attacks on Syria/Iraq/Turkey and if Europes borders are still open then countries in Europe as well.
 
PakPuk said:
The Kurds/Syrian government/Iraqi government can do that, enough US soldiers being killed in the region.
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and if those groups discriminate based on religion and tribe wont all of this just happen again and again
 
PakPuk said:
Okay lets play it your way and we have a ground invasion fought over years clearing them out house by house, street by street do you really think all of those civilians are going to feel like they have come out under oppression... of course not many are still going to be fanatics who will strap on their suicide vests and start launching attacks on Syria/Iraq/Turkey and if Europes borders are still open then countries in Europe as well.
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that might be better then blowing every one up yes
 
blarg said:
and if those groups discriminate based on religion and tribe wont all of this just happen again and again
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There will be suicide attacks in Iraq and Syria for decades to come but at least there will not be a safe haven for terror. ISIS need to be annihilated.
 
PakPuk said:
There will be suicide attacks in Iraq and Syria for decades to come but at least there will not be a safe haven for terror. ISIS need to be annihilated.
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well Isis being annihilated would be good for the rest of the world
 
blarg said:
that might be better then blowing every one up yes
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Did you not read what I said? When jihadis see military defeat they will launch suicide missions and spread out using the refugees as a cover when the Islamic State falls. Level every town and city then in the long term less people will be killed.
 
blarg said:
well Isis being annihilated would be good for the rest of the world
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Not one building, car, wall left standing a complete scorched earth policy anything that moves is destroyed.
 
PakPuk said:
Did you not read what I said? When jihadis see military defeat they will launch suicide missions and spread out using the refugees as a cover when the Islamic State falls. Level every town and city then in the long term less people will be killed.
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seems like good way to make more jihadis
 
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