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Pro-Gun Activist Jamie Gilt Accidentally Shot By Her 4-Year-Old Son [W:116]

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Moot said:
Jamie Gilt....pronounced "guilt"? Ironic.

The woman is a disaster. Not only did she fail to secure a loaded gun in her car but she failed to secure her child in the vehicle as well.


She just made herself the new gun control poster girl.
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It certainly does look that way. The bigger they come, the harder they fall.
 
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VanceMack said:
Not saying that shouldnt be the case. Do you also advocate for removing children from the custody of parents that have a proven history of DUIs? texting and driving? Mental illness? Im in...are you?
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DUI's while a child is present already results in criminal child abuse charges, not so with firearm offenses for some stupid reason. That needs to change. I'm tried of gun offenders getting slapped on the wrist.
 
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iguanaman said:
DUI's while a child is present already results in criminal child abuse charges, not so with firearm offenses for some stupid reason. That needs to change. I'm tried of gun offenders getting slapped on the wrist.
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But you ARE in favor of removing children from the homes in ALL of those circumstances....right?
 
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haymarket said:
This makes my day.
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someone accidently getting shot makes your day?
a kid's mom accidently gets shot and it makes your day?

there are no words to describe this type of thought.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Well of course she failed as a gun owner. I don't know why you think anyone would think differently.

I can barely shoot a .22. My kids - all mid to late teenage age - can't do it. As Samhain said, a 4 year old trying to shoot a .22 would likely result in the kid landing on his ass. She sounds like a braggart/gun advocate and the kid probably enjoyed watching her shoot.

What no doubt happened here is she wasn't responsible with her gun, and like we've seen before, her kid picked it up and pulled the trigger. Thank goodness 99.999999999% of gun owners aren't that stupid.

The OP said that teaching your kid to shoot a gun is quite ridiculous. That's a broad statement - and one I don't agree with. We didn't teach our kids to shoot at 4, but they learned to shoot when they were kids.
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a 22 has almost no recoil. my son started shooting 22 caliber pistols at age 7. He was very small for his age=probably as a result of over 17 surgeries to correct a birth defect (severe cleft palate and lip). while i think 4 is too young to start kids in shooting sports, I don't see a 22 knocking a 4 year old on their butts.
 
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VanceMack said:
But you ARE in favor of removing children from the homes in ALL of those circumstances....right?
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of course not, many cases of child neglect are perpetrated by Democrats
 
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VanceMack said:
But you ARE in favor of removing children from the homes in ALL of those circumstances....right?
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We already do, it is only gun offences that get a pass. Usually its because some dolt says "they have suffered enough". We punish crimes to prevent further crimes and until that includes mishandling of guns, children will keep on dying needlessly.
 
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TurtleDude said:
a 22 has almost no recoil. my son started shooting 22 caliber pistols at age 7. He was very small for his age=probably as a result of over 17 surgeries to correct a birth defect (severe cleft palate and lip). while i think 4 is too young to start kids in shooting sports, I don't see a 22 knocking a 4 year old on their butts.
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Okay, well when my kids were 4 they were neither big enough nor strong enough to shoot a .22. My kids weren't big enough or strong enough at the age of 4 to shoot Nerf water guns without losing balance. Maybe your son was different.
 
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iguanaman said:
We already do, it is only gun offences that get a pass. Usually its because some dolt says "they have suffered enough". We punish crimes to prevent further crimes and until that includes mishandling of guns, children will keep on dying needlessly.
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why do I get the feeling that you are not being truthful here? and why do I get the idea that gun banners love news like this? the fact is, gun banners try to smear millions of honest gun owners with isolated cases of stupidity.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Okay, well when my kids were 4 they were neither big enough nor strong enough to shoot a .22. My kids weren't big enough or strong enough at the age of 4 to shoot Nerf water guns without losing balance. Maybe your son was different.
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I didn't start letting my son shoot until he was

1) old enough and coordinated enough to shoot

2) old enough to follow instructions

for him that was 7

at 11 he was beating dozens of adults in pistol competitions as well as passing shooting tests at tactical training facilities and again outshooting most adults
 
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Cisero said:
Regardless of your stance on guns, teaching a kid to shoot is quite ridiculous IMHO.
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All of my kids learned to shoot starting at age 10. How/why is that ridiculous?
 
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iguanaman said:
We already do, it is only gun offences that get a pass. Usually its because some dolt says "they have suffered enough". We punish crimes to prevent further crimes and until that includes mishandling of guns, children will keep on dying needlessly.
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So it is your assertion that people that text and drive already have their children removed from them? People that suffer from mental illness have their children removed from them? People that get DUIs have their children removed from them? Do you have a source for that?
 
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TurtleDude said:
why do I get the feeling that you are not being truthful here? and why do I get the idea that gun banners love news like this? the fact is, gun banners try to smear millions of honest gun owners with isolated cases of stupidity.
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And gun nuts go out of their way to diminish and hide the truth about their obsession. Minimizing the bad side-effects of gun ownership only increases their frequency.
 
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TurtleDude said:
of course not, many cases of child neglect are perpetrated by Democrats
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Child safety DOES only seem to be a relevant matter to many folk here ONLY in instances involving firearms. Its almost like they have an agenda or something.
 
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Cisero said:
Regardless of your stance on guns, teaching a kid to shoot is quite ridiculous IMHO.

Read more at : Jamie Gilt, Florida Mom, Accidentally Shot By 4-Year-Old Son
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that is moronic. I almost was on the US Olympic team at age 21. do you think I could have done that if I didn't start shooting until I was 21? Kim Rhode has won shooting medals in five different olympic games. She won the double trap event in 1996 at age 17.

your comment is idiotic. but it makes sense. Kids who don't understand shooting and guns are more likely to buy into the anti gun nonsense Bannites spew.
 
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VanceMack said:
So it is your assertion that people that text and drive already have their children removed from them? People that suffer from mental illness have their children removed from them? People that get DUIs have their children removed from them? Do you have a source for that?
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Yes if you get a DUI with a child in the car you can lose your children and people are ruled unfit parents because of mental problems too. Why do you doubt that and what does that have to do with parents who abuse their children by allowing them unsupervised access to guns?
 
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iguanaman said:
And gun nuts go out of their way to diminish and hide the truth about their obsession. Minimizing the bad side-effects of gun ownership only increases their frequency.
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The "bad side effects of gun ownership"?
That, with millions upon millions of gun owners, accidents are bound to happen from time to time?
356,000,000 guns, 505 accidental gun deaths (2013) - the numbers tell the story.
 
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iguanaman said:
And gun nuts go out of their way to diminish and hide the truth about their obsession. Minimizing the bad side-effects of gun ownership only increases their frequency.
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the real nuts when it comes to guns are the dishonest Bannites who pretend that their hatred and desire to control others is to promote public safety when invariably its all about punishing people who don't buy into the welfare socialist idiocy that every gun banner on this board supports
 
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TOG 6 said:
The "bad side effects of gun ownership"?
That, with millions upon millions of gun owners, accidents are bound to happen from time to time?
356,000,000 guns, 505 accidental gun deaths (2013) - the numbers tell the story.
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to leftwingers, the bad side of gun ownership is multi-faceted including

1) people who refuse to outsource their own safety to the government

2) Liberal constituents engaging in criminal activity run the risk of being shot by armed citizens

3) a well armed public is harder to turn into slaves and serfs than disarmed ones

4) and after the Democrats used gun ownership as a scapegoat to cover up the fact that Democrats tend to be soft on violent criminals-gun owners tend to vote against the creeping crud of collectivism as advocated by the Democrat party
 
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VanceMack said:
Child safety DOES only seem to be a relevant matter to many folk here ONLY in instances involving firearms. Its almost like they have an agenda or something.
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Perhaps it is because of the TOTAL preventability of such violence against innocents and the lackadaisical treatment it gets by law enforcement?
 
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iguanaman said:
Yes if you get a DUI with a child in the car you can lose your children and people are ruled unfit parents because of mental problems too. Why do you doubt that and what does that have to do with parents who abuse their children by allowing them unsupervised access to guns?
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You can? I believe you were advocating that in ALL cases involving careless posession of firearms...right?

I can assure you...children are removed from the homes with far less frequency than you believe to be the case. But Im all about that equality. We both believe careless gun owners should be addressed. If you believe that as a universal process and are willing to advocate for the removal from the homes all children of parents that suffer extremes of depression in the name of child safety...I support you 100%. If you are willing to advocate for the removal of all children from the homes of people that get arrested for DUI...I'm your huckleberry. I got your back, man. For the chirruns.
 
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TurtleDude said:
why do I get the feeling that you are not being truthful here? and why do I get the idea that gun banners love news like this? the fact is, gun banners try to smear millions of honest gun owners with isolated cases of stupidity.
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And ammosexuals pretend these cases are isolated. I already pointed out to you that children accidentally injured or killed someone with firearms over 250 times last year alone.

That doesn't even count the thousands of gunshot casualities from other types of accidents or stupid handling.

How dishonest!
 
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Threegoofs said:
And ammosexuals pretend these cases are isolated. I already pointed out to you that children accidentally injured or killed someone with firearms over 250 times last year alone.

That doesn't even count the thousands of gunshot casualities from other types of accidents or stupid handling.

How dishonest!
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wow 300 to 400 million firearms and how many accidental shootings a year?

what is the percentages there?
 
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TurtleDude said:
wow 300 to 400 million firearms and how many accidental shootings a year?

what is the percentages there?
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Idiotic argument.

Well, we have 20,000 deaths per year- I'm guessing 100,000 gunshot wounds per year?

I guess if we gave everyone 300 million guns the percentages would be low....but that doesn't mean the number of casualties would be less.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Idiotic argument.

Well, we have 20,000 deaths per year- I'm guessing 100,000 gunshot wounds per year?

I guess if we gave everyone 300 million guns the percentages would be low....but that doesn't mean the number of casualties would be less.
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we have less than 2000 gunshot deaths a year that are homicides caused by people who legally owned the gun at the time of the killing. Hardly worth all the effort Bannites spend trying to ban or restrict gun ownership. of the 32K or so a year in gunshot deaths 60% are suicides. several hundred are lawful shootings, a few hundred are accidental and the rest are homicides caused by people who already are banned from owning any firearm

the idiocy is watching Bannites pretending that their schemes are designed to further public safety when its obvious their efforts are designed to harass lawful gun ownership.

You have yet to come up with any solutions to the "problem" you spend so much time crying crocodile tears over. Your effort of trumpeting tragedies with firearms does Nothing other than trying to smear gun owners
 
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