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Iraqi officials: US captured top IS chemical arms engineer

Did your initial comment say that no one had seen combat since Ford???

Obviously my view on what it means to serve a country is different than yours. To me, it hast to be meaningful and impactful. I don't regard people who spend their career cooling their heels in Hawaii or otherwise idle the same as I do someone who stormed the beaches of France in WWII. Just because someone has a uniform doesn't mean they provide a valuable service to the nation.
 
Him, too. And Bush 43 was in the National Guard while Clinton and Obama were fighting to end dodge ball in the public schools.

Want to be fair and balanced, then add Bush/Cheney/Reagan to your critique. 43 was awol.
 
Obviously my view on what it means to serve a country is different than yours. To me, it hast to be meaningful and impactful. I don't regard people who spend their career cooling their heels in Hawaii or otherwise idle the same as I do someone who stormed the beaches of France in WWII. Just because someone has a uniform doesn't mean they provide a valuable service to the nation.

That too is subjective. I don't consider killing people and destroying property a valuable service to my country.
 
He's the President. He gets credit and blame for everything that a member of the executive (which includes the military) accomplishes.

No, you give him credit. I'm pretty sure he did or knew nothing till after our military captured this guy.
 
Bad information equals more severe torture. He'll get the drift.

Sorry bud. As much as you want to violate basic human rights, it still doesnt work.

"Morality aside, O’Mara wanted to know if there was credible science that showed torture worked. The answer, it turns out, is no. The reality is that “the intelligence obtained through torture is so paltry, the signal-to-noise ratio so low, that proponents of torture are left with an indefensible case”. Advocates defend torture with an “ad hoc mixture of anecdote, cherry-picked stories and entirely counterfactual scenarios”, he says." https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-work-says-science-why-are-we-still-doing-it/

In 2006, a group of scientists and retired intelligence officers set out to settle the matter. They sought to find the most effective interrogation tactics and advise the U.S. government on their use. Their conclusions, laid out in a 372-page report for the director of national intelligence, argued against harsh interrogation.

“The scientific community has never established that coercive interrogation methods are an effective means of obtaining reliable intelligence information,” former military interrogation instructor and retired Air Force Col. Steven Kleinman wrote in the Intelligence Science Board report. “In essence, there seems to be an unsubstantiated assumption that ‘compliance’ carries the same connotation as ‘meaningful cooperation.’ “ Does torture work? Released memos don’t answer that age-old question | The Seattle Times

"The report finds that CIA detainees subjected to what were then called “enhanced interrogation techniques” either produced no intelligence, or they “fabricated information, resulting in faulty intelligence”. It says that the CIA’s own interrogators “assessed that the most effective method for acquiring intelligence from detainees, including from detainees the CIA considered to be the most ‘high-value’, was to confront the detainees with information already acquired by the intelligence community”." US report on 'enhanced interrogation' concludes: torture doesn't work | US news | The Guardian
 
Carter never saw combat and wasn't Bush just a photographer?

Where do you get this stuff or did you conveniently forget some facts?
Bush 41:

Following the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, Bush decided to join the US. Navy,[1] so after graduating from Phillips Academy in 1942, he became a naval aviator at the age of 18.[4] After completing the 10-month course, he was commissioned as an ensign in the United States Naval Reserve at Naval Air Station Corpus Christi on June 9, 1943, just three days before his 19th birthday, which made him the youngest naval aviator to that date.[1]

He was assigned to Torpedo Squadron (VT-51) as the photographic officer in September 1943.[1] The following year, his squadron was based on the USS San Jacinto as a member of Air Group 51, where his lanky physique earned him the nickname "Skin".[5] During this time, the task force was victorious in one of the largest air battles of World War II: the Battle of the Philippine Sea.[1]

After Bush's promotion to Lieutenant (junior grade) on August 1, 1944, the San Jacinto commenced operations against the Japanese in the Bonin Islands. Bush piloted one of four Grumman TBM Avenger aircraft from VT-51 that attacked the Japanese installations on Chichijima.[6] His crew for the mission, which occurred on September 2, 1944, included Radioman Second Class John Delaney and Lieutenant Junior Grade William White.[1] During their attack, the Avengers encountered intense anti-aircraft fire; Bush's aircraft was hit by flak and his engine caught on fire. Despite his plane being on fire, Bush completed his attack and released bombs over his target, scoring several damaging hits.[1] With his engine ablaze, Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft;[7] the other man's parachute did not open.[1] Bush waited for four hours in an inflated raft, while several fighters circled protectively overhead until he was rescued by the lifeguard submarine USS Finback.[1] For the next month he remained on the Finback, and participated in the rescue of other pilots. Several of those shot down during the attack were executed and eaten by their captors.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush
 
Him, too. And Bush 43 was in the National Guard while Clinton and Obama were fighting to end dodge ball in the public schools.

Obama wasn't even old enough to serve in Vietnam. Get real.
 
Oh brother. Glad I didn't serve with you. You remind me colonel Sam Flagg on the series MASH.

99 percent of leads go nowhere. That's the point.

A captured terrorist leader can drastically reduce that percentage given the right "motivation". If he gives bad information, you turn up the heat even more.

This has been going on for thousands of years, but liberals still think a group hug was the answer all along.
 
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