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Trudeau say Americans should pay more attention to the world

Well if anyone bother to read the article he is saying that Americans should learn more about foreign affairs, foreign affairs is not solely invasions and building walls.

Well, if we followed Trudeau's advice we would realize all the other countries in the world have an immigration policy and enforce it. I bet that isn't at all what he meant, but it would be interesting to see his reaction to a carefully worded question in that wheelhouse.
 
Actually, Harper brought in nothing but deficit budgets after 8 or 9 years of Liberal Party surpluses. But given your choices, either party, I'll take Trudeau. Hell, given your choices I'd take Harper and I've never voted anything but Liberal in my life. I think that you look at Canadian politics and see a reasonable and sane quality that US politics seems to have abandoned for the sake of playing to the lowest common denominator. Well, by 'US politics' I mean the Republican Party. What the hell do they think they're doing? They've got a golden opportunity here. The Democrats haven't got a popular candidate. All the Republicans have to do is put forth a staunch, reasonable, presidential candidate and look what they've come up with.
Republicans do not trust their party, and rightly so.

After having huge midterm wins to stop Obama... they've done nothing. People are beyond fed up. Enter Trump and Cruz.

Trudeau, after claiming no deficit spending... changed his mind after 4-months.
 
Justin Trudeau doesn't speak for this proud Canadian and never will. He's a self-indulgent dullard who got elected on the basis of a pleasing face and a famous last name. I can never criticize Americans for electing Barack Obama again after my fellow citizens elected this buffoon to our highest office. He's an embarrassment.

Don't forget the tattoo.
 
Actually, Harper brought in nothing but deficit budgets after 8 or 9 years of Liberal Party surpluses. But given your choices, either party, I'll take Trudeau. Hell, given your choices I'd take Harper and I've never voted anything but Liberal in my life. I think that you look at Canadian politics and see a reasonable and sane quality that US politics seems to have abandoned for the sake of playing to the lowest common denominator. Well, by 'US politics' I mean the Republican Party. What the hell do they think they're doing? They've got a golden opportunity here. The Democrats haven't got a popular candidate. All the Republicans have to do is put forth a staunch, reasonable, presidential candidate and look what they've come up with.

Let's not be dishonest with our American neighbours here. Let's tell them that the Harper government, a minority government at the time of the US led financial crisis, was resistant to massive deficit spending to counter the subsequent recession and only did so because the Liberals and NDP were conspiring with the Separatists in Quebec on a palace coup to take over control of parliament and Harper and his government were forced into that deficit spending to retain control. In about a decade, Harper's government added about $128 billion to the national debt, for the entire country, and during the same time, the Ontario Liberal government added in excess of $170 billion to our Provincial debt and continues to spend and tax without control. The Harper government, once it gained a majority government in 2011, went on to reduce year to year deficits until they ended with a year to year surplus before they were defeated in the last election. The Trudeau Liberals are now poised to run $30 billion in deficit spending in their first budget with estimates of over $150 billion in deficits in their first 4 years in office.

Trudeau and the Liberals will ruin all the good work the Harper Conservatives did to keep Canada as a leader into and out of the 2007/8 recession and a model for G8 and G20 countries. He and his government believe that all issues can and must be solved by government intrusion and funding and he even boasts about how wonderful it would be if he led a communist dictatorship like the Chinese so that he could do whatever he liked without democracy getting in the way.

Trudeau is an idiot and a disgrace and he's extremely dangerous for those reasons and many more.
 
Well, if we followed Trudeau's advice we would realize all the other countries in the world have an immigration policy and enforce it. I bet that isn't at all what he meant, but it would be interesting to see his reaction to a carefully worded question in that wheelhouse.

He is talking about America being rather inward focused, I bet most Americans couldn't even name where most of the countries in the news are. Americans need to think more about the world.
 
Let's not be dishonest with our American neighbours here. Let's tell them that the Harper government, a minority government at the time of the US led financial crisis, was resistant to massive deficit spending to counter the subsequent recession and only did so because the Liberals and NDP were conspiring with the Separatists in Quebec on a palace coup to take over control of parliament and Harper and his government were forced into that deficit spending to retain control. In about a decade, Harper's government added about $128 billion to the national debt, for the entire country, and during the same time, the Ontario Liberal government added in excess of $170 billion to our Provincial debt and continues to spend and tax without control. The Harper government, once it gained a majority government in 2011, went on to reduce year to year deficits until they ended with a year to year surplus before they were defeated in the last election. The Trudeau Liberals are now poised to run $30 billion in deficit spending in their first budget with estimates of over $150 billion in deficits in their first 4 years in office.

Trudeau and the Liberals will ruin all the good work the Harper Conservatives did to keep Canada as a leader into and out of the 2007/8 recession and a model for G8 and G20 countries. He and his government believe that all issues can and must be solved by government intrusion and funding and he even boasts about how wonderful it would be if he led a communist dictatorship like the Chinese so that he could do whatever he liked without democracy getting in the way.

Trudeau is an idiot and a disgrace and he's extremely dangerous for those reasons and many more.

Well the economy is tanking again because the Conservatives put too much emphasis on oil, the Conservatives would still be running a deficit too since their budgets were based on $80-$100 oil. Then the Liberals found they did not have all of this money the Conservatives were talking about.
 
I've lived in Ontario (not too far from Ottawa) and BC... and well... I wish Canadians would pay a little more attention to their history and realize what a PoS Pierre Trudeau was... and they just elected more of the same.

Actually, they did well having Harper running the show for so long... but it would have been nice to see the Libs stay as a power no bigger than their Socialist brethren, the NDP.

A message to Trudeau from America's youth:

 
Well the economy is tanking again because the Conservatives put too much emphasis on oil, the Conservatives would still be running a deficit too since their budgets were based on $80-$100 oil. Then the Liberals found they did not have all of this money the Conservatives were talking about.

Not true - the Conservative surplus that they left the Liberals took into account the falling price of oil. The Liberals - Trudeau, primarily - spent their first few months in office travelling the world and handing out $billions of Canadian taxpayer dollars just to make themselves look and feel important. They're spendthrifts with taxpayer dollars and Trudeau is the worst kind. He wants to be Santa Claus to all the lost causes in the world because that somehow makes him feel important. He's a buffoon and every time he opens his mouth some fresh idiocy spews out, some syrupy load of crap that would make Mother Teresa vomit.
 
Not true - the Conservative surplus that they left the Liberals took into account the falling price of oil. The Liberals - Trudeau, primarily - spent their first few months in office travelling the world and handing out $billions of Canadian taxpayer dollars just to make themselves look and feel important. They're spendthrifts with taxpayer dollars and Trudeau is the worst kind. He wants to be Santa Claus to all the lost causes in the world because that somehow makes him feel important. He's a buffoon and every time he opens his mouth some fresh idiocy spews out, some syrupy load of crap that would make Mother Teresa vomit.

From the Globe and Mail:
The 2015 budget took a different approach. It assumes prices will rise to $75 in 2017.

The 2015 budget also assumes oil prices will average $54 in 2015 and then rise to $67 in 2016.

I misremebered but they counted on rising oil prices not 35$ a barrel. They also reduced the contingency fund in order to obtain a surplus.
 
I think that one thing many down south can work on is this. May assist in learning about your inner self.
Sandwich does not have any M's in it.

Such as sammich- or sammwich
Ask does not have an X either
Or Axe me that again.
 
From the Globe and Mail:


I misremebered but they counted on rising oil prices not 35$ a barrel. They also reduced the contingency fund in order to obtain a surplus.

Yes, indeed - the budget planned for a surplus in the neighbourhood of about $5 billion, based on those numbers, and those numbers reflected a significant drop in the price of oil and the subsequent effects on jobs and the economy. Even with the price of oil falling further, they were still in line for a modest surplus of about $1 billion and were managing the finances of the country accordingly. Now, in a few short months, the Liberals are planning to blow their wad to the tune of $30 plus billion in deficits this year and far into their term. It's incredibly irresponsible and simply follows their ideology to hell with the circumstances in the economy. It's almost criminal, but typically Liberal. Except for Paul Martin, there hasn't been a responsible Liberal in my lifetime.
 
Maybe they would make smarter electoral decisions or in the very least put social pressure on the government to change things.

In my view, there isn't a country in the world who thinks and contributes more to the welfare and wellbeing of the world than the United States and our Prime Minister would do well to get off his arrogant ass and actually do something meaningful in his life before he starts lecturing other people, better than he, about what they should or shouldn't do.
 
Yes, indeed - the budget planned for a surplus in the neighbourhood of about $5 billion, based on those numbers, and those numbers reflected a significant drop in the price of oil and the subsequent effects on jobs and the economy. Even with the price of oil falling further, they were still in line for a modest surplus of about $1 billion and were managing the finances of the country accordingly. Now, in a few short months, the Liberals are planning to blow their wad to the tune of $30 plus billion in deficits this year and far into their term. It's incredibly irresponsible and simply follows their ideology to hell with the circumstances in the economy. It's almost criminal, but typically Liberal. Except for Paul Martin, there hasn't been a responsible Liberal in my lifetime.

The article directly contradicts what you say, it was a false surplus. It was just creative accounting to give the illusion of a surplus. The Conservatives bet everything on oil and the Prairie economies and did not give a **** about the East, that is why the Liberals now need to spend the money to correct it and shift the focus of the economy back to the East.
 
Americans can be said to be needing to pay greater attention to a great many things, including foreign affairs and foreign domestic politics. However, it would be prudent to add that the American citizen has a great deal of need to having a greater appreciation for matters that are born here and primarily affect them and their fellow citizens.

If it is accurate that they have a cartoonish outlook on American domestic policy, why, pray tell, should that be of less negative consequence than matters occuring abroad?
 
The article directly contradicts what you say, it was a false surplus. It was just creative accounting to give the illusion of a surplus. The Conservatives bet everything on oil and the Prairie economies and did not give a **** about the East, that is why the Liberals now need to spend the money to correct it and shift the focus of the economy back to the East.

At the risk of being fulgar, that's just bull****.
 
At the risk of being fulgar, that's just bull****.

It is true, go read the article. The Conservatives bet everything on the oil economy in the West, and now the Western economy is tanking and the Liberals need to revive the neglected enconomy of the East.
 
I've lived in Ontario (not too far from Ottawa) and BC... and well... I wish Canadians would pay a little more attention to their history and realize what a PoS Pierre Trudeau was... and they just elected more of the same.

Actually, they did well having Harper running the show for so long... but it would have been nice to see the Libs stay as a power no bigger than their Socialist brethren, the NDP.



I am Canadian.

Stephen Harper at the beginning did a good job of managing the nation's finances. However, he never really did bring the country together and was never a 'good leader'. In the end, he became an American Conservative who re-started the war on drugs, who used American lawmaking techniques in omnibus bills to change the nature of the country. He cut back spending even after we had a solid surplus for several years [that surplus was handed to him by the Liberals] and it hurt a lot of people.

He alienated our native population refusing to strike an investigation into thousands of native women who have gone missing. He ruled with a hard hand, allowed the RCMP to cover up rape and systemic sexual abuse within it ranks. Harper deliberately started a fight with the marijuana industry by trying to license only his friends as producers, and spent millions unnecessarily fighting it in court and loosing.

Harper rolled back and made toothless various organizations about women's rights, status of natives and he went to war against the single most successful addiction fighting tool, the Insight, the free injection site...and again lost in the Supreme court. He decided it would be a cool thing to strip people of their citizenship.....illegal under our international obligations and completely contrary to Canada's historical role of asylum for those who deserve. The feeling across the nation is that we should strip Harper of HIS citizenship.

None of that is Canadian.

Harper has become a swear word, members of the Conservative Party of Canada are keeping silent, they don't want to be spit on.

So, thank you for your outside advice, but please get this into your head: Canadians are different than Americans AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY.


Now, your opinion of Trudeau as a piece of **** you might want to call back. He was a very strong personality, and yes unpopular at times, but brought more reforms to this country than and seven previous prime ministers. And what you don't know, he keep the country together without war...something the US could not do. He also fostered in the most amazing constitution and world recognized Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So be careful about expressing your UNIFORMED opinions.


BTW, I agree, Canadians should pay more attention to the world. The comment comes from all the little American wannabes we have who are cowering in fear of Syrian refugees. He's being more kind to them than I. I say if you want a government like America, go to America and shut the **** up.
 
Republicans do not trust their party, and rightly so.

After having huge midterm wins to stop Obama... they've done nothing. People are beyond fed up. Enter Trump and Cruz.

Trudeau, after claiming no deficit spending... changed his mind after 4-months.

Well, like I say, they're squandering a golden opportunity. The Democrats are weak and vulnerable- it should be a cake-walk for the GOP but they look like they're trying to give the Dems a fair chance at winning.
And Trudeau campaigned on a deficit budget for the first two years. What's changed is the projected size of the deficit. He's now said it'll be bigger than he thought. Personally, I doubt there's much the feds can do to influence the economy, especially in Canada where so much of our economy is resource-based and depends on world commodity prices. I'm hoping he'll return to the fiscal responsibility shown by the last Liberal Party government. We had 8 or 9 years of surplus budgets before Harper put us back into the red.
 
It is true, go read the article. The Conservatives bet everything on the oil economy in the West, and now the Western economy is tanking and the Liberals need to revive the neglected enconomy of the East.

Canada's future welfare is largely based on the exploitation of our natural resources, much as Liberals want to destroy those natural benefits we enjoy.

And I do note, that as a resident of Montreal, you'd want the federal government to start paying attention to the teat suckers in Quebec who refuse to exploit their own natural resources and were quite happy picking the pockets of the hard workers in the oil fields in Alberta and Saskatchewan and in the ocean off of Newfoundland to fund your own lavish benefits that you refuse to pay for yourselves. Trudeau being a child of that mentality, I suppose, can't be blamed for his ignorance.
 
Canada's future welfare is largely based on the exploitation of our natural resources, much as Liberals want to destroy those natural benefits we enjoy.

And I do note, that as a resident of Montreal, you'd want the federal government to start paying attention to the teat suckers in Quebec who refuse to exploit their own natural resources and were quite happy picking the pockets of the hard workers in the oil fields in Alberta and Saskatchewan and in the ocean off of Newfoundland to fund your own lavish benefits that you refuse to pay for yourselves. Trudeau being a child of that mentality, I suppose, can't be blamed for his ignorance.

I want the focus to be put on Ontario and Quebec, the actual economic heart of Canada.
 
Let's not be dishonest with our American neighbours here. Let's tell them that the Harper government, a minority government at the time of the US led financial crisis, was resistant to massive deficit spending to counter the subsequent recession and only did so because the Liberals and NDP were conspiring with the Separatists in Quebec on a palace coup to take over control of parliament and Harper and his government were forced into that deficit spending to retain control. In about a decade, Harper's government added about $128 billion to the national debt, for the entire country, and during the same time, the Ontario Liberal government added in excess of $170 billion to our Provincial debt and continues to spend and tax without control. The Harper government, once it gained a majority government in 2011, went on to reduce year to year deficits until they ended with a year to year surplus before they were defeated in the last election. The Trudeau Liberals are now poised to run $30 billion in deficit spending in their first budget with estimates of over $150 billion in deficits in their first 4 years in office.

Trudeau and the Liberals will ruin all the good work the Harper Conservatives did to keep Canada as a leader into and out of the 2007/8 recession and a model for G8 and G20 countries. He and his government believe that all issues can and must be solved by government intrusion and funding and he even boasts about how wonderful it would be if he led a communist dictatorship like the Chinese so that he could do whatever he liked without democracy getting in the way.

Trudeau is an idiot and a disgrace and he's extremely dangerous for those reasons and many more.

I'm not sold on Trudeau myself. I nearly sat out the election- if I vote, I vote Liberal but I take a pass when I don't like the leader or the election platform. I decided to vote when those Conservative attack ads pissed me off.
And I have doubts of the value of government spending as an economic stimulus, especially when your economy depends on world commodity prices. But facts are facts- the last Liberal government gave us surplus budgets and the Conservatives gave us excuses.
 
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