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Rouhani's allies make huge gains in Iran elections

poweRob said:
Definitely not and end game but man what a great move away from religious conservatism that leads that country. The people there seem to be getting as close as they can to dropping the mullahs. Great news.

Rouhani's allies make huge gains in Iran elections

Tehran (AFP) - Iran's moderate President Hassan Rouhani won strong public backing and his reformist allies made stunning gains in parliamentary elections, partial results showed Sunday, reducing the potential for opponents to block domestic reform plans.

The reformists scored a unanimous victory in Tehran, taking all 30 seats at the expense of conservatives, including several hardline critics of the landmark nuclear deal between Rouhani's government and world powers.​
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I said it before concerning the sea-change in Iran over acceptance of the nuclear reduction deal that the Iranian people wanted things to change. Some poster all but laughed at me when I made that claim, but I bet they aren't laughing now.

The political winds are changing in Iran. The religious hardliners are losing their appeal. The bulk of the country want to be brought into the global economy again. And if it means giving up their nuclear weapons capability...for a time...but not their nuclear sciences in exchange for being including back into the global marketplace, so be it!
 
jmotivator said:
The reality isn't so rosy. True moderate reformers were disqualified from the election by Ayatollah Khamenei. No real movement.

This was done to maintain control through the election without sparking deadly protests like 2009.
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It has to start somewhere. It has begun, with Iran's sizable youth population- unemployment- it is a reasonable beginning. We will see where that take them.
 
JANFU said:
It has to start somewhere. It has begun, with Iran's sizable youth population- unemployment- it is a reasonable beginning. We will see where that take them.
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It's an illusionary beginning. It's like the mirror image of Egypt. In Egypt the theocrats thought they had power, but the Westernized military showed them different. In Iran the westernized students think they have power but the Iranian military and theocrats keep showing them their error.
 
jmotivator said:
You still aren't getting it. This election was a sham. It wasn't a victory for reformists and moderates as the ruling theocracy didn't let any actual reformists and moderates into the election.

I am saying that the Iranian people have been voting moderate and reformist for over two decades and the ruling mullahs have thrown all possible blocks in front of them to keep real reform from happening after their reinforcing their primacy. This is just another ploy the mullahs have to try and placate a population that wants to modernize after they got a taste of it in the early 2000s.
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Was there not 1 or 2 from the ruling council, extreme hardliners recently removed?
 
jmotivator said:
It's an illusionary beginning. It's like the mirror image of Egypt. In Egypt the theocrats thought they had power, but the Westernized military showed them different. In Iran the westernized students think they have power but the Iranian military and theocrats keep showing them their error.
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Iran is slowly changing, and Sisi is on a massive crackdown, hundreds at a time sentenced to death. Creating more issues than he solves in Sinai. Egypt will eventually go down a sinkhole due to corruption, hard line crackdowns, and a cratering economy.
 
akrunner88 said:
The Ayatollah is an old guy and will probably die soon. Once he does I expect there will be a lot of unrest and calls for change.
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There are a hundred other Mullah's in the waiting line. Mullah's are not going away until the people rise up and kill them, or remove them from power.

It ain't happening any time soon.
 
JANFU said:
Was there not 1 or 2 from the ruling council, extreme hardliners recently removed?
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That was a hardliner power struggle. They are still very much in control.
 
JANFU said:
Iran is slowly changing, and Sisi is on a massive crackdown, hundreds at a time sentenced to death. Creating more issues than he solves in Sinai. Egypt will eventually go down a sinkhole due to corruption, hard line crackdowns, and a cratering economy.
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Egypt is far less a basket case than Iran is. That isn't to say it isn't a basket case. But to paraphrase Jake Gittes: "In the land of lepers Egypt has the most fingers"
 
notquiteright said:
Well to be fair, breaking down a nuclear facility and moving it ahhh where, is a bit more involved than moving household goods. I wonder if our country could do so...

Now the support crew would be pretty massive and just how do you hide that from surveillance???

I dunno, we'd have to twist reality like the run-up to invade Iraq. The premise was we can't prove they didn't and could come up with all manner of possibilities, none of which were ever tested to see if they were practical.... :peace
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Then I wonder why they insisted on a 3 week notice of intent to inspect? Is there a logical explanation for this if noting nefarious is afoot?
 
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