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Multiple deaths reported in Kansas workplace shooting

lb_on_teh_cb said:
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because what? are you hoping it was?
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Just a bit of an odd comment, I don't mean to get into a pissing match while a terrible tradegy is unfolding... But why would you hope it wasn't someone in particular when we have absolutely no idea and when it could just be a co-worker who lost his mind.
 
It was an employee going postal. Curiously a guy called Hastings Wise shot up the lawnmower factory HE worked at back in 1997.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Just a bit of an odd comment, I don't mean to get into a pissing match while a terrible tradegy is unfolding... But why would you hope it wasn't someone in particular when we have absolutely no idea and when it could just be a co-worker who lost his mind.
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did i offend you?
 
And America just keeps doing its best to keep pace with that one mass shooting per day.
 
MrT said:
And America just keeps doing its best to keep pace with that one mass shooting per day.
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I guess the gun haters are hoping for more-such tragedies seem to be the ideal tool for Bannites to try to overwhelm reason to push their idiotic gun laws
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess the gun haters are hoping for more-such tragedies seem to be the ideal tool for Bannites to try to overwhelm reason to push their idiotic gun laws
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That's a pretty grossly innacurate statement. I am not at all enamored with guns as you well know. To suggest that others want more shooting is just nonsense. Imagine if I accused you of that?
 
Top Cat said:
That's a pretty grossly innacurate statement. I am not at all enamored with guns as you well know. To suggest that others want more shooting is just nonsense. Imagine if I accused you of that?
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the poster I was responding to has called for complete ban on handguns

these tragedies are used by gun banners to justify their next round of restrictions
 
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
 
truthatallcost said:
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
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a psychologist I have known since we both attended the same grade school and who specializes in young adults-often those with court issues, notes that the "glorification" and the "fame" these active shooters get is part of the problem that causes others to engage in such idiocy. As my late father noted, he went to prep school during WWII and he and many of his classmates who were competitive rifle or shotgun shooters had easy access to firearms-yet no one got shot even though at that all boys prep school, there were plenty of fist fights. Later in college, my father was in the USNRs and had shore patrol after class meaning he would often attend class in uniform with his 45 caliber pistol on his hip which was what he carried on duty. He was not unique but no one ever got shot there either
 
truthatallcost said:
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
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So it's obama's fault?
 
TurtleDude said:
a psychologist I have known since we both attended the same grade school and who specializes in young adults-often those with court issues, notes that the "glorification" and the "fame" these active shooters get is part of the problem that causes others to engage in such idiocy. As my late father noted, he went to prep school during WWII and he and many of his classmates who were competitive rifle or shotgun shooters had easy access to firearms-yet no one got shot even though at that all boys prep school, there were plenty of fist fights. Later in college, my father was in the USNRs and had shore patrol after class meaning he would often attend class in uniform with his 45 caliber pistol on his hip which was what he carried on duty. He was not unique but no one ever got shot there either
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Yeah, people had a sense of honor back then; they settled disputes with fists and not by shooting people. It would have brought shame on the family back then to do something like that.
But they also didn't take anti-depressants and spend all their time alone in front of a computer, which I think is the real reason people are snapping and going ape s**t.
 
truthatallcost said:
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
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Fair question.

This lay opinion is that there is much more stress today in terms of personal expectations and keeping up with the Joneses. Even the ease of getting into creditor hell plays a part. Even student loans. Those personal circumstances may combine with a recipe of antidepressants or even a childhood that included ADHD meds, etc., given to undeveloped human brains.

I have absolutely no idea what percipitated this latest workplace shooting. But I will be surprised if one or more of the circumstances I mention were not involved.
 
I'd be curious to know how many of these mass shooters were taking prescription medications, Zoloft etc. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of connection.
 
truthatallcost said:
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
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Awww, come on, Guess. It is that issue we sweep under the rug or lock in the closet so we don't have to see it.
 
MaggieD said:
Fair question.

This lay opinion is that there is much more stress today in terms of personal expectations and keeping up with the Joneses. Even the ease of getting into creditor hell plays a part. Even student loans. Those personal circumstances may combine with a recipe of antidepressants or even a childhood that included ADHD meds, etc., given to undeveloped human brains.

I have absolutely no idea what percipitated this latest workplace shooting. But I will be surprised if one or more of the circumstances I mention were not involved.
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Now at last someone is willing to make some effort and actually look at the root of the problem. Well Done, you are the exception in todays society.
 
HenryChinaski said:
I'd be curious to know how many of these mass shooters were taking prescription medications, Zoloft etc. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of connection.
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the local news (Ch 12, CBS Cincinnati, at 11.02 EST) just interviewed the worker who was the work partner of the dead killer. Said he demonstrated NO hints of going postal.
 
Well this topic on a tragedy went from zero to retarded in two posts. New record? Sadly, probably not.
 
MrT said:
And America just keeps doing its best to keep pace with that one mass shooting per day.
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There has been a breakdown in American society. There is no going back. Guns have nothing to do with the motives.

TurtleDude said:
I guess the gun haters are hoping for more-such tragedies seem to be the ideal tool for Bannites to try to overwhelm reason to push their idiotic gun laws
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Always.
 
truthatallcost said:
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
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There has been a breakdown in American society. There is no going back.

The reasons are many.
 
truthatallcost said:
The real issue to be addressed is why people are going postal now as opposed to in the past. Guns have always been readily available, yet school and workplace shootings haven't occurred in the past like they are today.
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People have been going postal for decades now so this isn't anything new.
 
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