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Trump clobbers Cruz and Rubio, cementing his status as front runner [W:92]

Kobie said:
No, Obama was criticized by conservative talking heads for using a teleprompter (rather hypocritically, since even Saint Ronnie used teleprompters with nary a peep; Sarah Palin once criticized Obama for using teleprompters while she read her criticisms from a teleprompter, for chrissakes). The vast majority of voters couldn't care less.
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Oh poor, poor Obama.

He and his followers are simply going to have to get over it. Every president since Washington has been criticized and he simply has to grow some skin. And his annoying followers are going to accept that it is a new age, Obama is leaving, allegedly all grown up now so I suggest his wriggling fan base drop near decade old insults.

Not only is it useless, but annoying and nauseating......ffs the US will never grow if you're groveling in petty eight year old injuries. Oh "boo hoo" they are saying bad things because he uses a teleprompter for everything.

Can we for once actually stay with the topic and not constantly go to all the great harms the poor president had to face......he may suffer severe hardships if and when he grows up
 
Zyphlin said:
The scary thing about Trump is he really is winning across multiple demographics. I say scary, because it's simply confirming my fears for the idiotic reality tv culture that has permeated this country so much. Policy doesn't matter, ideology doesn't matter, principle doesn't matter, apparently all that matters is attitude and how one presents things. I've seen it bite the other way, with not so moderate John Huntsman getting portrayed as a moderate/liberal due to his TONE, and it's now being shown the other direction with a man that has a history of liberal positions running away with the republican primary because of nothing but tone.

America's going to get what it deserves in this next election. And I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins against Hillary or Bernie, and any of those acting like it's a sure thing he won't are kidding themselves or simply haven't been paying attention to how things have been occurring within this primary for him. By and large he's bucked convention, sent normal political science theory out the window, and basically succeeded in every instance he should've failed.

We're quite likely going to have a god damn reality TV show host as the POTUS.
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Has worked for the Democrats for decades.
 
Trump gets his first endorsements from congress:

Donald Trump finally has official supporters in Congress.

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) told POLITICO on Wednesday that he will support Trump for the Republican nomination, making him one of the first members of Congress to express public support for the Manhattan businessman who is the prohibitive front-runner after his victory in Tuesday's Nevada caucuses.

Also on Wednesday, Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) told The Buffalo News that he is backing Trump, saying he has the "guts and fortitude" to get jobs back from China and to take on foreign threats such as the Islamic State and North Korea.
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Read more: Duncan Hunter endorses Donald Trump - POLITICO
 
disneydude said:
The uneducated generally vote GOP more than Democrat.
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Actually, that's not really true when looking across the nation as a whole.

In 2000, Gore won those who had a high school education or less.

In 2004, Kerry won those who had a high school education or less.

In 2008, Obama won those who had a high school education or less.

In 2012, Obama won those who had a high school education or less.

Democrats, at least in recent history, have done better than Republicans with the uneducated or less educated individuals.

When looking at various levels of college, it shifts a bit...

In 2000, Bush did better with those who had partial or complete undergraduate education.

In 2004, Bush did better with those who had partial or complete undergraduate education.

In 2008, Obama was the one who did better with those with partial or complete undergraduate educations.

In 2012, Romney won with those who had undergraduate degrees.

When it comes to post graduate degrees, the Democrats take back the lead. They won that in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012.

Over recent elections, Democrats have generally succeed with those who are uneducated or have basic education, as well as those who are super educated. Republicans, save for 2008, have faired better with those with moderate education, beyond high school but not to graduate level.

To tie this back into Trump; if Trump can actually swing the numbers in the High School or Less educated crowd, it could be a key factor in any potential victory for him.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
It's amazing how quick the left turn on the poor/uneducated when it serves thier political purposes.
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Well, the fact of the matter is, dems never cared about "those people". Practically every one of their policies bears this out. ;)
 
Casper said:
I agree, I also believe it would hurt the Dems in the same sort of way, say they pick Hillary over Sanders, do you actually believe Sanders supporters would back Hillary, I think many would simply walk away from the election, not that it would matter in the long run.
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Some will some won't. I don't see it as divisive as Trump. I also think there is a lot less chance of a brokered Dem. Convention.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
link?

define "uneducated"....
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You just have to go back and look at the demographics of national elections. Generally speaking, higher education correlates with voting for Democrats. College Educated vote more democrat....high school and less, tend to vote more republican.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
It's amazing how quick the left turn on the poor/uneducated when it serves thier political purposes.
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yeah, they ignore the fact that they have OWNED the "poor and uneducated" vote for 50 years. yet when they try to rationalize Trump they point to his "uneducated" voters, which actually shows their own ignorance. I've read articles about the people who attend Trump rallies and they are from all walks of life, all ages, all incomes. They are mostly hard working people with a family who are genuinely concerned about the country and are sick of politicians.

but that's how liberals fight. they can't just disagree with you and leave it at that. they have to name call and announce how much smarter they are. it's actually sad. It's like short man's disease.
 
Chomsky said:
I was not aware of that.

You'd think Cruz would've locked that up; to me, anyway.
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The panel at CNN talked about that. One of the talking heads had a theory that evangelicals (after the gay marriage bs) were starting to wake up to the fact the government was never going to be anything but secular. So they are voting for a secular guy that they think will punish Washington and at least put the secular government back on track.

Personally I think the Ralph Reed block is dissolving.
 
clownboy said:
The panel at CNN talked about that. One of the talking heads had a theory that evangelicals (after the gay marriage bs) were starting to wake up to the fact the government was never going to be anything but secular. So they are voting for a secular guy that they think will punish Washington and at least put the secular government back on track.

Personally I think the Ralph Reed block is dissolving.
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I hope your analysis is correct.
 
JoeTrumps said:
yeah, they ignore the fact that they have OWNED the "poor and uneducated" vote for 50 years. yet when they try to rationalize Trump they point to his "uneducated" voters, which actually shows their own ignorance. I've read articles about the people who attend Trump rallies and they are from all walks of life, all ages, all incomes. They are mostly hard working people with a family who are genuinely concerned about the country and are sick of politicians.

but that's how liberals fight. they can't just disagree with you and leave it at that. they have to name call and announce how much smarter they are. it's actually sad. It's like short man's disease.
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And in this case it spells real trouble for the dems as "uneducated" means Blue Collar these days.
 
disneydude said:
You just have to go back and look at the demographics of national elections. Generally speaking, higher education correlates with voting for Democrats. College Educated vote more democrat....high school and less, tend to vote more republican.
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Except you're wrong when it comes to the past 4 national elections. Graduate education goes Democratic typically....undergraduate education tends to go Republican...High school and less tend to vote Democratic.
 
Zyphlin said:
Except you're wrong when it comes to the past 4 national elections. Graduate education goes Democratic typically....undergraduate education tends to go Republican...High school and less tend to vote Democratic.
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That's interesting. From all we hear, one would have thought HS/less goes to R. How does English not being the first language influence those stats, I wonder?
 
danarhea said:
Nah, get gets support from many of the highly educated too. But his supporters, whether poorly or highly educated, have one thing in common. They are mostly sociopaths.
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No they are just sick of how the government has been managed and they are making a statement. I think it is a hoot.
 
Zyphlin said:
Except you're wrong when it comes to the past 4 national elections. Graduate education goes Democratic typically....undergraduate education tends to go Republican...High school and less tend to vote Democratic.
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That sounds about right. I know it was different going back a few decades, but I think you are right about the last few elections.
 
The good thing about Trump though is that if (God Forbid) he is elected, we don't have to worry about him politicizing the Supreme Court by trying to pack it with activist judges the way that Rubio and Cruz would. I think in that sense, Trump might not be too bad.
 
disneydude said:
You just have to go back and look at the demographics of national elections. Generally speaking, higher education correlates with voting for Democrats. College Educated vote more democrat....high school and less, tend to vote more republican.
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You have liberal indoctrination and "safe spaces" at most colleges pumping out dependent class liberals, you think it's because they are "better educated"?


zyphlin addressed your point so I wont repeat.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You have liberal indoctrination and "safe spaces" at most colleges pumping out dependent class liberals, you think it's because they are "better educated"?
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I actually do. I think most colleges force people to question authority and question some of the things that they have been brought up to believe. I think critical thinking leads to higher educated...which leads to democratic voting.
 
disneydude said:
I actually do. I think most colleges force people to question authority and question some of the things that they have been brought up to believe. I think critical thinking leads to higher educated...which leads to democratic voting.
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That's a delusional idea my friend, if not self serving.

Explain the age gap which goes for republicans:
The Generation Gap and the 2012 Election | Pew Research Center


then there is this:

A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation | Pew Research Center

Highschool or less..

47% democrat
37% Republican

Some college:

47% democrat
42% republican

College Graduate or more:
52% democrat
40% republican

post graduate (which I argue it's easy to be democrat when you haven't lived in the real world for so long, but I digress)
56% democrat
36% republican


Now back to my first link:
as they get older, they become more republican.




But the main point is the first one, high school, who are the "uneducated", who do they support?
 
Chomsky said:
The breadth of his support, even amongst non-GOP, is impressive to say the least.
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Agreed.

Over the course of the past four elections I voted for Bush 43 twice, then I voted for Obama, and last time I voted for Gary Johnson.

So while I have voted GOP for most of my life I can't honestly call myself a party faithful Republican any more.

Generally I vote for whoever I think is the "best of the worst".

In Trump's case, though I certainly don't love everything about him, and there's a great deal I don't even like all that much, I do love the fact that he's something different and that he doesn't feel the need to have his opinion focus group tested in several major markets before he'll state it as his opinion.

I don't support Trump so much because of what he represents politically, though I do think there is a great deal of common sense and pragmatism to some of his polices, but for what he represents to the political system as a whole.

We need to break away from electing and reelecting the same plasticized, glad-handing, corporate crony, snake oil salesmen again and again and again and then expecting that somehow this time things will be different.

Trump truly represents a break from the establishment and that's what I love about him.

I think most folks who support him feel much the same way.
 
disneydude said:
I actually do. I think most colleges force people to question authority and question some of the things that they have been brought up to believe. I think critical thinking leads to higher educated...which leads to democratic voting.
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I also think it has a LOT to do with the fact that most folks with an undergrad education in useless liberal arts majors are coming out of school deep in debt and finding that the job market can be a pretty hostile place when you just spent four years learning to "think critically" and "question authority" but very little time actually earning any useful skills.

So when Democrats are the ones waving loan interest reductions and debt forgiveness under their noses they naturally jump on that party's wagon.
 
soot said:
Agreed.

Over the course of the past four elections I voted for Bush 43 twice, then I voted for Obama, and last time I voted for Gary Johnson.

So while I have voted GOP for most of my life I can't honestly call myself a party faithful Republican any more.

Generally I vote for whoever I think is the "best of the worst".

In Trump's case, though I certainly don't love everything about him, and there's a great deal I don't even like all that much, I do love the fact that he's something different and that he doesn't feel the need to have his opinion focus group tested in several major markets before he'll state it as his opinion.

I don't support Trump so much because of what he represents politically, though I do think there is a great deal of common sense and pragmatism to some of his polices, but for what he represents to the political system as a whole.

We need to break away from electing and reelecting the same plasticized, glad-handing, corporate crony, snake oil salesmen again and again and again and then expecting that somehow this time things will be different.

Trump truly represents a break from the establishment and that's what I love about him.

I think most folks who support him feel much the same way.
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I agree with pretty much everything you say here, Soot.

I was a Dem, and then a Reagan Dem, then I walked away from the Dems. As much as I'm not thrilled with the Dems, I dislike the current GOP more!

I'll take Bernie firstly, but if it comes down to the Secy or the Billionaire, then Mr. Trump may be getting my vote.

I having a great deal of experience visiting Canada and interacting with my Canadian relatives, I've summered there as a teen and snow-ski'd there as an adult, and I've become a life-long proponent of single-payer/private-provider healthcare such as theirs.

Now how crazy is it, that I'll have to vote for Republican candidate for his single-payer platform over the Dem candidate that is against it? Is this crazy, or what?

I honestly think if Dems can put aside Mr. Trump's current GOP affiliation and focus on his policies, a few might be tempted to switch. That's not to say he doesn't present 'no-go' stumbling blocks for some Dems, but he might be a crossover candidate for others in the same way that President Reagan was (as badly as that eventually turned out in the eye's of some of us).
 
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