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Suspect reportedly indicted in burning death of Mississippi teen Jessica Chambers

Hatuey said:
Calamity, you're engaging in run of the mill apologetics we've seen in this forum time and time again. Blacks are now to blame for their own enslavement to colonialists? I'm guessing that's to be expected from the same person who suggests that blacks need permission from whites in order to address racism. :lol:
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African tribesmen sold white colonialists all the slaves they could buy. They then killed the ones who were left unsold--fact.

Jessica Chambers appears to have been involved in the drug trade, both as a user and a runner--a reasonable assumption

If you want to talk about race, try using facts not propaganda---common sense.
 
calamity said:
African tribesmen sold white colonialists all the slaves they could buy. They then killed the ones who were left unsold--fact.
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Calamity, we're getting it. You're into a apologetics, quite a bit. It's a darn shame that these views didn't come out sooner.

Jessica Chambers appears to have been involved in the drug trade, both as a user and a runner--a reasonable assumption

If you want to talk about race, try using facts not propaganda---common sense.
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You're trying to find other reasons to blame Jessica Chambers being burnt alive? Nobody is impressed by such lazy attempts to address the topic of your own thread. :lol:
 
calamity said:
PC crap most certainly played a role...probably in both cases. Jessica probably considered herself progressive for shunning the shackles of her racist, Mississippi past, and this other chick probably went to some liberal college. What could possibly go wrong?
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Awful lot of "probablys" in there. Pretty good way to run an end around by the fact that you have absolutely no idea.
 
Hatuey said:
Calamity, we're getting it. You're into a apologetics, quite a bit. It's a darn shame that these views didn't come out sooner.
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Only in PC Propagandaville would facts be considered apologetic. Did you know a Black property owner was the first person in the US to legally turn a Black indentured servant into a lifelong slave?


You're trying to find other reasons to blame Jessica Chambers being burnt alive? Nobody is impressed by such lazy attempts to address the topic of your own thread. :lol:
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Not blaming her for being burnt alive, just not giving her a free pass for putting herself into a position which resulted in her being burned alive.
 
Kobie said:
Awful lot of "probablys" in there. Pretty good way to run an end around by the fact that you have absolutely no idea.
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Probably true
 
calamity said:
lol...right because anyone white saying anything about race except that all black people are victims of institutional racism is, of course, a racist. :roll:
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No, that's not true. When YOU talk about race, however, it's a pretty foul mix of racism and ignorance of the topic. You're so addicted to blaming everything on "PC" that you've simply invented hypotheticals to support it.
 
calamity said:
Only in PC Propagandaville would facts be considered apologetic.
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Calamity, it's your understanding of these facts which make you into an apologist.

Did you know a black man in the US was the first person to turn an indentured black servant into a lifelong slave?
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Now we've gone with full blown Stormfront propaganda. I'm mildly whelmed.

Not blaming her for being burnt alive
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Oh?

calamity said:
Of course she was somewhat responsible for her own death.
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You're slipping.
 
Kobie said:
No, that's not true. When YOU talk about race, however, it's a pretty foul mix of racism and ignorance of the topic. You're so addicted to blaming everything on "PC" that you've simply invented hypotheticals to support it.
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PC is pretty prevalent if you happen to be standing outside of the narrative. I suspect you don't mind it because it suits you fine.
 
Hatuey said:
Calamity, it's your understanding of these facts which make you into an apologist.



Now we've gone with full blown Stormfront propaganda. I'm mildly whelmed.



Oh?



You're slipping.
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Not Stormfront, true American History. You should try reading it instead of watching reruns of Roots.

John Casor. In 1654, John Casor became the first legal slave in America. Anthony Johnson, previously an African indentured slave, claimed John Casor as his slave. The Northampton County rule against Casor, and declared him propter for life by Anthony Johnson.Since Africans were not English, they were not covered by the English Common Law.

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/history.html
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calamity said:
Only in PC Propagandaville would facts be considered apologetic. Did you know a Black property owner was the first person in the US to legally turn a Black indentured servant into a lifelong slave?



Not blaming her for being burnt alive, just not giving her a free pass for putting herself into a position which resulted in her being burned alive.
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Link for that please
Now how many whites owned slaves in the US? How many slaves in the US -
And yes, how many blacks owned slaves.

Pick a few different years.
 
JANFU said:
Link for that please
Now how many whites owned slaves in the US? How many slaves in the US -
And yes, how many blacks owned slaves.

Pick a few different years.
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I'm amazed you people don't know this.
 
calamity said:
PC is pretty prevalent if you happen to be standing outside of the narrative. I suspect you don't mind it because it suits you fine.
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Huh. I thought white males (which I am) were the true victims of "PC."

I see "PC" as something wildly overblown by people who think they're edgy by pointing out that black people sometimes commit crimes.
 
Kobie said:
Huh. I thought white males (which I am) were the true victims of "PC."

I see "PC" as something wildly overblown by people who think they're edgy by pointing out that black people sometimes commit crimes.
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lol...white males of the liberal persuasion are the primary purveyors of PC garbage. Must be due to all that white guilt that Hautey wants to talk about. Maybe you two should have a dialog.
 
calamity said:
Not Stormfront, true American History. You should try reading it instead of watching reruns of Roots.
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Calamity, it's a well known attempt to try and evade the subject:

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Nobody here is impressed by your use of cheap Stormfront propaganda. Why don't you try to blame Jessica Chambers for her own death some more? Maybe it'll save you from your own thread. :lol:
 
calamity said:
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I'm amazed you people don't know this.
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You find that amazing
I am amazed at how you missed the other questions asked.
 
Hatuey said:
Calamity, it's a well known attempt to try and evade the subject:

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Nobody here is impressed. Why don't you try to blame Jessica Chambers for her own death some more? Maybe it'll save you from your own thread. :lol:
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Ah, so UC Berkley is now Stormfront. Got it.

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/history.html
John Casor. In 1654, John Casor became the first legal slave in America. Anthony Johnson, previously an African indentured slave, claimed John Casor as his slave. The Northampton County rule against Casor, and declared him propter for life by Anthony Johnson.Since Africans were not English, they were not covered by the English Common Law.
 
calamity said:
lol...white males of the liberal persuasion are the primary purveyors of PC garbage. Must be due to all that white guilt that Hautey wants to talk about. Maybe you two should have a dialog.
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JANFU simply doesn't buy into the whole Stormfront propaganda shtick. We're all well aware of these silly examples people like you like to use anonymously in online forums. It fools very few folks and has yet to convince anybody of any worth in academia. :)
 
calamity said:
Ah, so UC Berkley is now Stormfront. Got it.
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UC Berkeley isn't blaming Africans for the enslavement of Africans. UC Berkeley isn't trying to blame Jessica Chambers for her own death. You are. Try to stay focused here.
 
calamity said:
lol...white males of the liberal persuasion are the primary purveyors of PC garbage. Must be due to all that white guilt that Hautey wants to talk about. Maybe you two should have a dialog.
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I haven't seen Hatuey address "white guilt" at all. All I see him doing is running circles around you while you attempt to construct some flimsy narrative about how it was "PC" that drove Miss Chambers to her murder, which she is somehow to blame for.

You are absolutely embarrassing yourself.
 
JANFU said:
You find that amazing
I am amazed at how you missed the other questions asked.
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Yes. I find it amazing how ignorant so many people are on the subject of slavery.

The other questions were not relevant to my argument. You can make them though.
 
Kobie said:
I haven't seen Hatuey address "white guilt" at all. All I see him doing is running circles around you while you attempt to construct some flimsy narrative about how it was "PC" that drove Miss Chambers to her murder, which she is somehow to blame for.

You are absolutely embarrassing yourself.
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Well, she is dead. And, she probably went willingly with the thug who burned her alive. Sounds to me like she certainly wasn't wearing her thinking cap...and that it was more than likely PC garbage which clouded her mind.
 
calamity said:
Ah, so UC Berkley is now Stormfront. Got it.

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/history.html
John Casor. In 1654, John Casor became the first legal slave in America. Anthony Johnson, previously an African indentured slave, claimed John Casor as his slave. The Northampton County rule against Casor, and declared him propter for life by Anthony Johnson.Since Africans were not English, they were not covered by the English Common Law.
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Well the white man sure did turn it into a multi continent business. 10s of millions, and PS Arabs also sold slaves to whitey.
 
calamity said:
Yes. I find it amazing how ignorant so many people are on the subject of slavery.

The other questions were not relevant to my argument. You can make them though.
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Of course not, they detract from it.
 
JANFU said:
Well the white man sure did turn it into a multi continent business. 10s of millions, and PS Arabs also sold slaves to whitey.
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He really is trying to use a single incident as proof that a transoceanic trade was created by the people who were being traded. That's pretty silly.
 
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