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Suspect reportedly indicted in burning death of Mississippi teen Jessica Chambers

calamity said:
Here we go. The murderous thug was supposed to serve 5 and 8 years for crimes committed in 2010, 11 and 12. He got out in October of 2014, and burned Jessica alive in December of that year.



Freaking career criminal. No wonder he ended up killing people, he probably figures he'll be out in less than 10 years.
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Do you have the reason why he was released?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Do you have the reason why he was released?
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not yet, but my wife said he wasn't exactly a model prisoner. I'm looking at some of those sources right now, but they are not mainstream, so I question them.
 
Not only was there barely a peep about this story in the national media, it also disappeared from the "conversation" faster than does the food in my dog's bowl. One cop shoots one thug, and we don't hear the end of it to this day. But, one thug sets a white chick ablaze and the national media pretends it didn't happen.

What would be the narrative if some white guy threw gasoline all over a black girl and lit a match?
 
calamity said:
...lol, we're probably going to be labeled racists just for daring to point out the obvious.
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No, you get labelled racist because you're racist. Even if you ever say something correct in relation to race, you're still be fundamentally racist.
 
HonestJoe said:
No, you get labelled racist because you're racist. Even if you ever say something correct in relation to race, you're still be fundamentally racist.
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lol...right because anyone white saying anything about race except that all black people are victims of institutional racism is, of course, a racist. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Interesting is that there is no mention of this yet on CNN or Huffpo. Not one word. A search of each website leads to crickets.

Probably a result of all this Black Lives Madness. "Oh no. We can't be drawing attention to that."
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You're right. We can't be demanding payment from any African-Americans, we need to be giving to African-Americans. So says the Black Lives Matter bunch. You know, except for African-Americans who don't 'march' in lockstep with the social mores of the rest of the African-American community.
 
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cabse5 said:
You're right. We can't be demanding payment from any African-Americans, we need to be giving to African-Americans. So says the Black Lives Matter bunch.
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The agenda of most media, except RW media, is to promote white guilt. Any story that flies in the face of the "meanie Whitie" narrative is immediately buried.

Even stories like this will eventually be spun, in due time, to give the impression that all this was the result of meanie whities from Mississippi's racist past. They are really to blame for what happened to Jessica. I'll lay money on it.
 
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This isn't about race. The nation is becoming numb to violence.

It's in our video games, movies, books, speech, songs, parents, schools, gangs........... etc. etc.

Some kids are being raised in households that with immature parents, disengaged parents, or parents that are engaged with drugs, alcohol, and violence.

Some young people are growing up accepting violence as being "the normal"
 
RetiredUSN said:
This isn't about race. The nation is becoming numb to violence.

It's in our video games, movies, books, speech, songs, parents, schools, gangs........... etc. etc.

Some kids are being raised in households that with immature parents, disengaged parents, or parents that are engaged with drugs, alcohol, and violence.

Some young people are growing up accepting violence as being "the normal"
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If the victim was a black girl from Mississippi burned alive by a white guy, you can bet your ass it would be about race. Investigative journalists would be all over that town mining for quotes about how the man said the n-word or spoke disparagingly about blacks. But yet, no one cares what this black guy said about whites or Asians. Isn't that odd...considering he killed a white girl and an Asian?
 
calamity said:
lol...right because anyone white saying anything about race except that all black people are victims of institutional racism is, of course, a racist. :roll:
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No, I'm saying the exact opposite. What you're saying doesn't make you racist and not everyone who says anything like that is racist. That doesn't mean you're not racist anyway.

It's not racist to say that more black Americans are convicted of violent crime than white Americans. It is racist to assume a random individual is a criminal just because of their skin colour. If you're the kind of person who would do both, you are a racist even if right at the moment you're only doing the former.
 
HonestJoe said:
No, I'm saying the exact opposite. What you're saying doesn't make you racist and not everyone who says anything like that is racist. That doesn't mean you're not racist anyway.

It's not racist to say that more black Americans are convicted of violent crime than white Americans. It is racist to assume a random individual is a criminal just because of their skin colour. If you're the kind of person who would do both, you are a racist even if right at the moment you're only doing the former.
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That's not really the issue here where a black suspect is in custody for setting a white girl on fire in Mississippi and murdering an Asian woman in Louisiana. So, what's with the derailing topic of generic racism?
 
calamity said:
That's not really the issue here where a black suspect is in custody for setting a white girl on fire in Mississippi and murdering an Asian woman in Louisiana. So, what's with the derailing topic of generic racism?
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You brought up generic racism, first by generalising on the basis of the skin colour of this single suspect and them complaining that people will call you racist because of your racial generalisations. There is zero evidence that this case has anything to do with race at all, you're just jumping to that conclusion on the basis of the suspect's skin colour alone. Because you're racist.
 
HonestJoe said:
You brought up generic racism, first by generalising on the basis of the skin colour of this single suspect and them complaining that people will call you racist because of your racial generalisations. There is zero evidence that this case has anything to do with race at all, you're just jumping to that conclusion on the basis of the suspect's skin colour alone. Because you're racist.
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Judging by your spelling, I surmise you live outside the US. So, I'll just put it this way--you don't know what the **** you are talking about. Live here. Spend a few decades living in the US, and then I'll maybe take your comments on race serious. Until then, I just see someone from another country who thinks he knows it all passing judgement on something that is way over his head.
 
calamity said:
Playing with fire: cohorting with a known criminal who has a history of assaulting women and is out on probation. You think that kind of thing doesn't come back to bite you in the ass?
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First, you pretend that blacks need to get approval for whites in order to address racism. Now, you suggest that this poor white girl shouldn't have been around some dangerous black criminal when very little is known about how the two crossed paths in the first place. I see a pattern developing here.
 
Hatuey said:
First, you pretend that blacks need to get approval for whites in order to address racism. Now, you suggest that this poor white girl shouldn't have been around some dangerous black criminal when very little is known about how the two crossed paths in the first place. I see a pattern developing here.
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First, I never said Blacks need to get approval from whites in order to address racism. I did, however, say that if anyone wants whites to feel guilty about the racism of the past, it would be best to use facts and not propagandized fiction and blatant lies like we saw with Roots and in Ferguson respectively.

Second, this "nice young man" was a member of the Vice Lords street gang. There is no way in hell that Jessica Chambers did not know this fact. It's a shame that the media is not digging into the facts surrounding this incident because I suspect there is a hell of a lot here that has not been brought to light, regarding both the gangster and the young girl, who I bet the farm was not some innocent little child caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
calamity said:
First, I never said Blacks need to get approval from whites in order to address racism.
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Calamity, of course you did. The approval of whites is necessary in order to conduct a conversation on racism. Shying away from that opinion now is pretty silly.

Second, this "nice young man" was a member of the Vice Lords street gang.
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Who are you quoting? Certainly not me.

There is no way in hell that Jessica Chambers did not know this fact.
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Murder victims have to know who their murderers were? That's a pretty silly suggestion not backed by anything we know. You're developing a pattern, calamity. No point in hiding it.
 
HonestJoe said:
You brought up generic racism, first by generalising on the basis of the skin colour of this single suspect and them complaining that people will call you racist because of your racial generalisations. There is zero evidence that this case has anything to do with race at all, you're just jumping to that conclusion on the basis of the suspect's skin colour alone. Because you're racist.
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calamity said:
Judging by your spelling, I surmise you live outside the US. So, I'll just put it this way--you don't know what the **** you are talking about. Live here. Spend a few decades living in the US, and then I'll maybe take your comments on race serious. Until then, I just see someone from another country who thinks he knows it all passing judgement on something that is way over his head.
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To add: There is a war going on in the US. No, it's not between Black and White. It's a war of ideas and control of the narrative.

On one side are the liberal progressives, with their PC agenda. In the middle are the bulk of us, people who like to know the real skinny and not some bull**** spit out by the propaganda machines. Making matters worse, coming at us middle of the road folks, attacking us on our other flank is the Far Right, who spew out their own lies and lines of BS propaganda which is not much different than those of the PC progressives, but completely opposite.

What does this have to do with the Chambers matter? A lot. It's a bigger story than the Left, who dropped it like a hot potato, wants to tell. And, it's not a simplistic narrative of angry black kids like we see on certain RW sites. It's a story about inner city gangs infiltrating rural America, drugs, money, and the stupid young girls who get caught up in it for god knows what reason.
 
Hatuey said:
Calamity, of course you did. The approval of whites is necessary in order to conduct a conversation on racism. Shying away from that opinion now is pretty silly.
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Truth is necessary to conduct a conversation on racism. That's all. Truth. Not some bs made up crap that fits a narrative. Just simple honest truths backed up by historical fact.

For example, the number of people owning slaves in this country were relatively limited, even in the South. And, those owning many slaves were very few indeed. Add to that this. The ancestors of most white people living in the US today came to this country long after slavery ended.

Why should any of those people even be required to address slavery at all? Because we are white? Well...now who is being racist?


Who are you quoting? Certainly not me.
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Biting sarcasm, quoting stupid idiots who defend gangsters and serial killers.



Murder victims have to know who their murderers were? That's a pretty silly suggestion not backed by anything we know. You're developing a pattern, calamity. No point in hiding it.
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She knew her killer, spent time with him for at least two weeks before her death. That much has already been written about.
 
calamity said:
Truth is necessary to conduct a conversation on racism.
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Now you presume that truth is held by whites. We're hearing a lot of the white man's burden here, calamity.

That's all. Truth. Not some bs made up crap that fits a narrative. Just simple honest truths backed up by historical fact.

For example, the number of people owning slaves in this country were relatively limited, even in the South. And, those owning many slaves were very few indeed. Add to that this. The ancestors of most white people living in the US today came to this country long after slavery ended.

Why should any of those people even be required to address slavery at all? Because we are white? Well...now who is being racist?
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From suggesting that discussing racism requires the approval of whites to full blown slavery apologetics and final but lazy pseudo-intellectual attempt to turn the tables on me. I'm not even remotely impressed by your performance so far, calamity. :lol:

Biting sarcasm, quoting stupid idiots who defend gangsters and serial killers.
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So you're quoting people who aren't involved in our discussion so that you can weasel your way out of your suggestion that this girl was somehow responsible for her own death? It's too late to try to save yourself from the implication of your posts, calamity.
 
Hatuey said:
Now you presume that truth is held by whites. We're hearing a lot of the white man's burden here, calamity.



From suggesting that discussing racism requires the approval of whites to full blown slavery apologetics and final but lazy pseudo-intellectual attempt to turn the tables on me. I'm not even remotely impressed by your performance so far, calamity. :lol:



So you're quoting people who aren't involved in our discussion so that you can weasel your way out of your suggestion that this girl was somehow responsible for her own death? It's too late to try to save yourself from the implication of your posts, calamity.
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Of course she was somewhat responsible for her own death. It's not like she was kidnapped while getting gas on her way to school. Sheesh.

Look, if you want to discuss racism using lies and fictional propaganda....have at it. But, don't be surprised when people call you out on it.

There is no apology for slavery. It was bad. But, most white people living in this country had nothing to do with it or had any family history associated with it. Are you going to say all those of us with German, Irish, Italian and Spanish ancestors who arrived here after WW1 are just as responsible for slavery as those with English ancestors who lived in Virginia between 1620 and 1860?
 
calamity said:
Of course she was somewhat responsible for her own death.
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Lol, this made me laugh. You're not being serious, are you? I don't care for the rest of your twisting and turning concerning your own apologetics for slavery.
 
Hatuey said:
Lol, this made me laugh. You're not being serious, are you? I don't care for the rest of your twisting and turning concerning your own apologetics for slavery.
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What about all the Africans who sold us the slaves? Do you want to blame them too...or do you just want to whine about white people?
 
calamity said:
What about all the Africans who sold us the slaves? Do you want to blame them too...or do you just want to whine about white people?
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Calamity, you're reaching the point where you simply try to point to a subject which has little to do with what we're discussing. First came your denial, then your red herrings, now, a basic attempt to distract from the implication of your statements. In one thread you suggested that the acceptance by whites was necessary to end racism. Now, you're blaming a white girl for ending up dead even though you have no clue why she died to begin with. The pattern isn't going away. :lol:
 
Hatuey said:
Calamity, you're reaching the point where you simply try to point to a subject which has little to do with what we're discussing. First came your denial, then your red herrings, now, a basic attempt to distract from the implication of your statements. In one thread you suggested that the acceptance by whites was necessary to end racism. Now, you're blaming a white girl for ending up dead even though you have no clue why she died to begin with. The pattern isn't going away. :lol:
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How about the Blacks in Africa selling colonialists as many slaves as they could afford to buy. Maybe they are to blame for slavery. Sounds good to me.
 
calamity said:
How about the Blacks in Africa selling colonialists as many slaves as they could afford to buy. Maybe they are to blame for slavery. Sounds good to me.
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Calamity, you're engaging in run of the mill apologetics we've seen in this forum time and time again. Blacks are now to blame for their own enslavement to colonialists? I'm guessing that's to be expected from the same person who suggests that blacks need permission from whites in order to address racism. :lol:
 
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