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Palestinian leader gives wife-beating tips on Gaza TV[W:98]

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From the statistics it looks as if many Good Christians do not need anyone to tell them how to beat their wife or girlfriends, they already have that skill down pat. Facts are inconvenient for you aren't they. Awww, too bad.

So then, that makes it ok if Muslims do it? Is the the argument here?
 
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Correct, it is not necessary as I said the statistics show. Maybe if more preached against it the stats would look better.

Like almost all measures of violence, domestic violence is headed way down.

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It is simply that we hear more about it now and so we assume a higher occurrence. Rape is a similar story.
 
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Good grief, this video is as old as Methuselah. Why bring it up now? If Muslim women don't like to be beaten, it is up to them to cause a ruckus. What do you want us to do about it?
Oh, and domestic violence does exist among non Muslims.
 
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So then, that makes it ok if Muslims do it? Is the the argument here?

Nope, strange how any time someone points out the fact that we have our own issues to deal with that it is somehow condoning the wrongs of others. As I always say two wrong do not equate to a right. I am all for pointing out the wrongs in this world, but ignoring those closer to home as some seem to want to do here, is not the way Jesus wants us to act either.
 
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Like almost all measures of violence, domestic violence is headed way down.

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It is simply that we hear more about it now and so we assume a higher occurrence. Rape is a similar story.

Numbers tend to rise and fall depending on stressors such as unemployment and substance abuse along with social acceptance and yes it is far too often not reported for various reasons. I suspect some women do not report it now unless it is really bad is that they know that with the new laws if the police are called and they see any physical injury the abuser will be arrested and charged by the state itself, where as in the past the woman would often call the police to make the beating stop and when the police came they would refuse to file charges because they did not want the abuser arrested, crazy as it sounds that is why the laws have been changed.
 
Re: Palestinian leader gives wife-beating tips on Gaza TV

Numbers tend to rise and fall depending on stressors such as unemployment and substance abuse along with social acceptance and yes it is far too often not reported for various reasons. I suspect some women do not report it now unless it is really bad is that they know that with the new laws if the police are called and they see any physical injury the abuser will be arrested and charged by the state itself, where as in the past the woman would often call the police to make the beating stop and when the police came they would refuse to file charges because they did not want the abuser arrested, crazy as it sounds that is why the laws have been changed.

all of which is a word salad designed to get around the fact that the rates of domestic violence, are, in fact, significantly down. The most at-risk age group is sitting at 0.07%, demonstrating that your earlier claim that:

From the statistics it looks as if many Good Christians do not need anyone to tell them how to beat their wife or girlfriends, they already have that skill down pat.

is, in fact, as identified, drivel.


What was it you then said?

Oh yes.

Facts are inconvenient for you aren't they. Awww, too bad. ;)
 
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all of which is a word salad designed to get around the fact that the rates of domestic violence, are, in fact, significantly down. The most at-risk age group is sitting at 0.07%, demonstrating that your earlier claim that:



is, in fact, as identified, drivel.


What was it you then said?

Oh yes.

Facts are inconvenient for you aren't they. Awww, too bad. ;)

Keep ignoring reality, I am sure it makes you feel better. Good luck, you are going to need all you can get.
 
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Keep ignoring reality, I am sure it makes you feel better. Good luck, you are going to need all you can get.
[emoji38] the reality is the math. Which I posted for you. If you had a personal experience, then I'm sorry, but statistically, your claim is crap.
 
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[emoji38] the reality is the math. Which I posted for you. If you had a personal experience, then I'm sorry, but statistically, your claim is crap.

Funny that is pretty much what I believe you claim is, Crap. I am good with that.
 
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Funny that is pretty much what I believe you claim is, Crap. I am good with that.
Okedoke. Once you get to the point where you are arguing that numbers and reality doing count, I admit, I don't have a counter. Have a nice day.
 
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Nope, strange how any time someone points out the fact that we have our own issues to deal with that it is somehow condoning the wrongs of others.

It's obvious deflection and it happens every single time. When someone criticizes Christianity, do you try to deflect that by saying, "well but Muslims..."
 
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I already did, but there is no cure for those that refuse to acknowledge the problem in their own backyard while screaming about someone that is not even in this country. I am sure that that man represents all Muslims because that is what you want to believe, ignorance is bliss for some.
There is no doubt that domestic abuse is commonplace in most countries, and I never claimed otherwise, but apart from Muslim leaders it is not preached from the various pulpits.

The Islamic preacher is using the Koran as the model for his beliefs and is therefore not receiving much criticism from other Muslims. Your personal attacks on me do not advance your arguments.
 
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Good grief, this video is as old as Methuselah. Why bring it up now? If Muslim women don't like to be beaten, it is up to them to cause a ruckus. What do you want us to do about it?
Oh, and domestic violence does exist among non Muslims.
The women have no power and many in the west, especially liberals, offer them no support whatsoever.
 
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It's obvious deflection and it happens every single time. When someone criticizes Christianity, do you try to deflect that by saying, "well but Muslims..."

Wrong, it is point out the related issue that effects us in the USA more than some guy running off his mouth in Palestine. Which by the way does not represent Islam any more than some Christian beating his wife in the US represents Christianity. I know some do not like looking in the mirror, but the thing is it is far easier dealing with those issues that directly affect us than something halfway around the world. Said my peace on this topic, now back to whatever it is you are attempting to accomplish.
 
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There is no doubt that domestic abuse is commonplace in most countries, and I never claimed otherwise, but apart from Muslim leaders it is not preached from the various pulpits.

The Islamic preacher is using the Koran as the model for his beliefs and is therefore not receiving much criticism from other Muslims. Your personal attacks on me do not advance your arguments.
You have not seen criticism of his comments because you have not actually looked, I saw a program on a PBS station the same day I saw this thread posted where a family was sitting around listening to the mans comments and they were say that his comments were not Islamic, meaning they do not consider his words to be proper words to live by. I was not even looking for the program so I can assume If I did I could easily find Muslims that disagree with that one man. Do you believe anything any Christian leader says represents the entire Christina population, of-course not, yet in this case you and others are doing just that. Oh by the way, have you read the Old Testament, if someone outside the faith were to point to that what excuse would you give, oh that the faith has evolved past that, and there ya have it.
 
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You have not seen criticism of his comments because you have not actually looked, I saw a program on a PBS station the same day I saw this thread posted where a family was sitting around listening to the mans comments and they were say that his comments were not Islamic, meaning they do not consider his words to be proper words to live by. I was not even looking for the program so I can assume If I did I could easily find Muslims that disagree with that one man.
This only underscores my point that his comments did not receive much criticism. Why not look for some yourself? Look at all the publicity terry Jones , the Florida pastor, received when he threatened to burn the Koran. Even the US President got involved. here we have an Islamic preacher explaing how to properly beat yoyr wife and we here nothing from the political leaders. In fact your defense is that Christians beat their wives also, in the 'everybody does it' excuse.
Do you believe anything any Christian leader says represents the entire Christina population, of-course not, yet in this case you and others are doing just that. Oh by the way, have you read the Old Testament, if someone outside the faith were to point to that what excuse would you give, oh that the faith has evolved past that, and there ya have it.
Of course this has nothing to do with Christianity, the OT, or who's going to win the Stanley Cup. Try to stay focused on the topic at hand.
 
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This only underscores my point that his comments did not receive much criticism. Why not look for some yourself? Look at all the publicity terry Jones , the Florida pastor, received when he threatened to burn the Koran. Even the US President got involved. here we have an Islamic preacher explaing how to properly beat yoyr wife and we here nothing from the political leaders. In fact your defense is that Christians beat their wives also, in the 'everybody does it' excuse.
Of course this has nothing to do with Christianity, the OT, or who's going to win the Stanley Cup. Try to stay focused on the topic at hand.
I replied with a quote from my post which says I did see Muslims condemning his words, reading comprehension problems are easily solvable, read slower.
So sorry you did not like me pointing out our own issues on the same subject of spousal abuse, next time simply ignore them and continue on with your rant, it will save us both lots of time.
 
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I replied with a quote from my post which says I did see Muslims condemning his words, reading comprehension problems are easily solvable, read slower.
In fact it's your comprehension skills which are clearly lacking. Here is my bolded comment. his comments did not receive much criticism Now how many Muslims out of the 1.5 billion were complaining on the PBS program you claim to have seen?

So sorry you did not like me pointing out our own issues on the same subject of spousal abuse, next time simply ignore them and continue on with your rant, it will save us both lots of time.
I don't have a problem in pointing out those who support spousal abuse whereas you're attempting to divert attention away from the very people who are espousing these acts.
 
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