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Teenage girl admits making up migrant rape claim that outraged Germany

Whenever it suits your needs, yes, please completely change the conversation to something different, LOL.
You mentioned the area and I pointed out, with supportive evidence, what was truly going on.
Did I genuinely ever imply that I didn't know this?
You didn't have to. You words made it clear.
Muslims from the middle-east and north Africa, yes, generally they have a pretty negative opinion of most Jews.
"A pretty negative attitude"? They're butchering them and threatening to wipe them off the map! How much more negative can they get?
That's complex geopolitical situation, because part of this extends well beyond the picking the anti-Semitic verses of the Qur'an. A lot of it also has to do with geopolitical situations, i.e. Israel's imperialism, and the fact that the US supports Israel.
You either don't understand the meaning of 'imperialism' or are blind to history as well as current events. Islam has taken over the Middle East through 'imperialism' and are creating terror in many other parts of the world in order to continue their imperialism. Of course the USA should support Israel, just as all democracies should support each other. Would you allow Islam to take over Israel and all other areas of the world where they're involved?
I've had conversations with you before, you don't know what an argument is or how to argue, so I'm not going to waste my time now.
Liberals always cut and run when facts interfere with their feelings.
 
There are around 400,000 Arabs in Germany, and over the last year, that number, including South Africans, seems to have nearly doubled, but it's hard to find precise statistics. Let's go with the speculative high numbers by the German police officers of around 2,000 offenders. That's only .5% of the Arab-Germans committed crimes like these. Racism has a much higher prevalence in white people, so I suppose by the same token, we should assume that all white people are deep-seated racists.



If you don't think that many coaches have made this justification for their players, then you're incredibly naive. This type of thing is where the Western notion of "rape apology" comes from. This is an extremely trivial and prototypical example brought up by feminists.

Lashings? No, probably not, but certainly social shunning, and other form of systemic "blame the victim" abuses go on. It's why the police go through special efforts to protect rape victims identities and why there's special laws (like bringing up past sexual history) is inadmissible in court.



This actually sounds like (white) rape apology. Just to be clear here, you do agree that jocks who commit rape are not merely "testosterone filled young men" but often are predators who've largely been made predators by rape cultures that exists on some sports teams, yes? Please tell me you agree with that, otherwise you're a pretty amazing hypocrite.



Why, because you say so? I find this endlessly fascinating. The "We don't like brown rapists! Deport all Muslims!" crowd is not fueled --in most cases-- by some deep-seated belief in feminism or protecting women. Yes, of course I can compare similar cultures that promote rape and statistically creates rapists. The whole point is the same reason you're trying to defend football players right now: Obviously, most football players aren't rapists, even if some football teams have a rape culture. But of course, you're ideologically committed to not recognize that the exact same reasoning applies to Arabs and North-Africans.

And I suggest that we combat both types of rape in the exact same: Fight the subcultures that promote rape and rape apology, attack the arguments, spread knowledge, and make people who commit sexual violence pay for their crimes. Saying, "You're brown, you're probably a rapist" only seems to seriously deter that effort.



You're taking a childishly course-grained approach to "society." Do I agree that vast swaths of NA/ME have serious rape cultures? Yes, I obviously do. But does this make me think that this means every single person from that society is a rapist or is pro-rape? No, not at all, that's an absurd conclusion.



Islam isn't a racist ideology, typically construed, but it is authoritarian, theocratic, homophobic, misogynistic, etc. I have no love for Islam, but I do not want all Arabs/South Africans/etc to be confused for Jihadist or traditionalist Muslims. The Middle-East/North-Africa/South-Asia areas do have a set of cultural problems. Islam is often a part of them, I agree. But you get a choice, in my opinion, either you get to bomb and destroy and destabilize AND accept refugees from that area OR you don't have to accept refugees if you don't bomb, destroy, and destabilize regions of the world.



What are you talking about?

Not going to respond?
 
Euro Leaders will do whatever it takes to keep alive the fantasy that we can all live together as one big family and whatever other multiculturalist blah they believe in.

This isn't about one happy family (even though that should be possible if people, all people, worked to that in unity) but this is about averting a humanitarian tragedy on the limits of our borders in Europe. It is about our values as human beings who value core humanity and being seriously saddened by the tragedy, death and suffering of these people.

And we may not be able to stop the reason for their suffering (the war and IS, even though we are trying to help there), but we are able to help with the suffering by allowing people to live in Europe for the time being and giving money to Turkey and other countries where the majority of refugees have fled to.

This isn't about multiculturalism but about suffering and justice.
 
This isn't about one happy family (even though that should be possible if people, all people, worked to that in unity) but this is about averting a humanitarian tragedy on the limits of our borders in Europe. It is about our values as human beings who value core humanity and being seriously saddened by the tragedy, death and suffering of these people.

And we may not be able to stop the reason for their suffering (the war and IS, even though we are trying to help there), but we are able to help with the suffering by allowing people to live in Europe for the time being and giving money to Turkey and other countries where the majority of refugees have fled to.

This isn't about multiculturalism but about suffering and justice.
For the time being, huh? Merkel said much the same. And Europeans actually believe that?

No wonder that's where all the great wars and insane political systems begin! Europeans will once again get their 'suffering and justice', and much sooner than they expect.
 
Firstly, it would help if you actually quoted me correctly so I know you responded. It's stupid to accuse me of "not respond" when you can't even be bothered to either learn how to use the quote function properly or else check your post for the most mundane errors.

No love for Islam, but you kowtow to those who practice it. You openly welcome people who you admit have homophobic and misogynistic views, which are contrary to your own views. Either you're paying lip service to caring about gay rights and women's rights, or your paying lip service to supporting Muslim migration.

This irrational, two-faced argumentation. To answer the underlying premise upon which everything you say is predicted: No, I do not require people to abide by all of my beliefs in order to immigrate. The reasons for this are so obvious, I should think that they don't need to be spelled out, but to list a few:

1.) If I seriously thought this was a valid rule, I would have to say that the Polish --who're extremely religious, extremely homophobic, extremely racist-- should be allowed to immigrate here, and I guess the Polish citizens who don't agree with all of that can just get stuffed. But I obviously don't. A lot of people in Eastern Europe are also very misogynistic, for instance most men I know from Eastern Europe who live in the US are very specific that they must control the family money, etc. I find it all repellent, but it's not my job to manage their beliefs or relationships. This is America, we're allowed to believe whatever stupid, caustic nonsense we want. People are allowed to believe in religion --and I fight for people's rights to do so-- even though I think it's one of the worst kinds of institutions on the face of the Earth. What matters is what we do, and whether or not we commit crimes. If you commit a crime while you're in the process of immigrating to the US, back you go. But in the US, there's crucially no such thing as a thought-crime (Well, idiots try often enough, the last major attempt was the Red Scare, fortunately, in the end they always fail).

2.) It seems like you want people who immigrate to the US to be people who already follow American culture, even though by definition they group up in a different culture. Actually, you apparently want more than that. You apparently want them to be completely non-misogynists, pro-gay rights, etc. Realistically, most Americans aren't even these things. So why in the hell are we demanding it out of immigrants? I'm not bothered by brown misogyny and homophobia any more than I am white homophobia and misogyny. I'm bothered by it independent of the source. We're not talking about absorbing an amount of people that will make any statistical impact on American political or religious culture. Also, American culture has been positively impacted by immigration. We can start with the fact that everyone in the US is an "immigrant."

3.) Beyond racism, we lost the right to say "We don't want those kinds of swarthy people." when we bombed the **** out of their region, destabilized their entire political infrastucture, and we aided and partially funded the terrorists that now have made a morass out of their lands. If we take in a bunch of young people into a country, there will be more crimes. Too bad, we helped make this mess, we are morally responsible for these people because a majority of us agreed to go along with Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama's completely abhorrent, immoral, and disgusting middle-eastern foreign policy. We're reaping what we've sown. This, as well as Veterans Affairs, is the true American price of neoconservative policies That comes, statistically speaking, with some amount of crime. Some criminals will get through. That's going to happen whether it's from Syria, Poland, etc.

If someone in the immigration process commits any kind of sexual assault (or any crime), I'll be the first person to say that they get the boot and they can go back to their native country, but not a moment before then.
 
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