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Texas Grand Jury Indicts Two in Probe of Anti-Abortion Videos[W:115:309]

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Intent doesn't mean squat. If you go into a bank with a note and a gun, to just test their security, you are still going to go to prison. LOL.

Intent in law should always matter. If someone kills another person without malice we don't charge them with first degree murder and in this case we shouldn't pretend they were actually interested in getting organs. Intent matters.
 
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They couldn't indict PP. The evidence was doctored 47 times. LOL.

The GJ was called to investigate PP, is that not correct? DA stated they (GJ) would go where the evidence led.

Texas Grand Jury Indicts Two in Probe of Anti-Abortion Videos - NBC News
Harris County DA Anderson convened the grand jury last year at the request of Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, NBC affiliate KHOU reported, and after the release of several other undercover videos from around the country that purported to show the sales of aborted fetal tissue.

Daleiden has described the footage as part of a long-term investigation called "Human Capital" that documents Planned Parenthood's "illegal sale of body parts from aborted fetuses."
 
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So Texas is so stupid they didn't make intent part of their law? :lamo

No, the two buffoons who have been indicted are stupid for breaking the law in a failed attempt to uncover criminal activity. Now they'll have an extended stay in the poke and all they have to show for it is an argument that has no more merit than accusing the mailman of selling letters because he talked to you about the cost of postage stamps.
 
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Oh, and to Carly Fiorena, a big special "F you" for lying about these videos.
 
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Intent in law should always matter. If someone accidentally kills another person we don't charge them with first degree murder and in this case we shouldn't pretend they were actually interested in getting organs. Intent matters.

Let me put it this way. A guy gets drunk and kills someone in a car accident. He didn't intend to do that, but he goes to prison. The difference between him and these bozos is that he was under the influence of alcohol and they were under the influence of stupidity. :mrgreen:
 
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No, the two buffoons who have been indicted are stupid for breaking the law in a failed attempt to uncover criminal activity. Now they'll have an extended stay in the poke and all they have to show for it is an argument that has no more merit than accusing the mailman of selling letters because he talked to you about the cost of postage stamps.

Perhaps, but texas legislators aren't looking so brilliant either. To treat someone that had no intent to get organs like they did in fact want organs is sheer stupidity.
 
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Perhaps, but texas legislators aren't looking so brilliant either. To treat someone that had no intent to get organs like they did in fact want organs is sheer stupidity.

So it's only intent if you say it is? Good luck with that argument.
 
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Let me put it this way. A guy gets drunk and kills someone in a car accident. He didn't intend to do that, but he goes to prison. The difference between him and these bozos is that he was under the influence of alcohol and they were under the influence of stupidity. :mrgreen:

Do you know what he would be charged with? Do you think intent comes into that?
 
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So Texas is so stupid they didn't make intent part of their law? :lamo Why would someone pass a law that treats what essentially is a farce the same as the real thing? Texas really is full of ****ing retards.

Henrin. I am concerned that a man of your age, blood pressure and all.
Texas has laws, some i agree with, some I do not.
But after peoples reputations were ruined by these 2 and other, the GJ was out to nail PP, well justice has prevailed in a very conservative State.
Those involved in this will have their respective butts sued off for every freaking nickle they have. I would say a lot of nervous people involved with this are on their phones getting legal advice as we speak.
And we know there was money behind this.
Oh yes, this is going to be damned interesting as the civil cases, many of them for sure, go to trial in the coming year or so.
 
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Best part is that they'll get a felony conviction which will **** up their lives forever. Bonus is that they'll never be able to own a gun again.
 
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Do you know what he would be charged with? Do you think intent comes into that?

They altered their drivers licenses. That IS a felony in Texas, and they DID intend to do that. Whether or not they beat the organ charge, they will still be serving time. They are crooks.
 
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So it's only intent if you say it is? Good luck with that argument.

Do you think someone looking to expose PP for their organ dealings were actually interested in getting organs?
 
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They altered their drivers licenses. That IS a felony in Texas, and they DID intend to do that. Whether or not they beat the organ charge, they will still be serving time.

Honestly, I don't even care about that charge. You're talking about **** created for the governments benefit, and honestly, bleh.
 
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Do you think someone looking to expose PP for their organ dealings were actually interested in getting organs?

PP did nothing wrong. Every single investigation has found that they did nothing wrong.

CMP however? They lied, and they are gonna face the consequences.
 
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Best part is that they'll get a felony conviction which will **** up their lives forever. Bonus is that they'll never be able to own a gun again.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what they were charged with. Yay, bull**** gun laws!
 
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Honestly, I don't even care about that charge. You're talking about **** created for the governments benefit, and honestly, bleh.

It boils down to this: If you want to railroad someone on false charges.....

RULE NUMBER ONE: Don't commit a crime yourself.
 
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I'm upset that PP is still getting funding and that the government is still treating a killer as someone that should have say over their victims organs. :shrug:

What killer?
 
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The whole idea behind it is that he was trying to get them to agree. He wasn't actually going to take anything from them. There is no doubt that should be obvious to anyone watching the video or is at all aware of their intent. :lamo

Whoever came up with those charges should be punished for their extreme stupidity.

Austin...
 
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What killer?

? The guy who went on a rampage and shot and killed PP workers?

No, the right doesn't care about that.
 
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What kind of question is that?

Who is the killer?
Pretty simple question, in my opinion.
 
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with what they were charged with. Yay, bull**** gun laws!p

Disarming Texas = good thing.:2razz:
 
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Who is the killer?
Pretty simple question, in my opinion.

What exactly do you think abortion involves? Do you think someone is perhaps killing another party? Seriously, you're asking me who is the killer? A woman goes to the clinic to have her unborn child killed and you need help in figuring out who the killer is. Seriously? WTF?
 
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Perhaps, but texas legislators aren't looking so brilliant either. To treat someone that had no intent to get organs like they did in fact want organs is sheer stupidity.

You might want to read the law to avoid looking silly. Being kind, I will help: TEX PE. CODE ANN. § 48.02 : Texas Statutes - Section 48.02: PROHIBITION OF THE PURCHASE AND SALE OF HUMAN ORGANS

(b) A person commits an offense if he or she knowingly or intentionally offers to buy, offers to sell, acquires, receives, sells, or otherwise transfers any human organ for valuable consideration.
 
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What exactly do you think abortion involves? Do you think someone is perhaps killing another party? Seriously, you're asking me who is the killer? A woman goes to the clinic to have her unborn child killed and you need help in figuring out who the killer is. Seriously? WTF?

It's a fetus not a person or a child. Completely legal has been for years settled law. Now compelling a woman to have an abortion that I'd have a problem with.
 
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