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Is Donald Trump now unstoppable?

The GOP Elite are still backing Bush.

Cruz, Rubio and the others...except Trump...are their distraction candidates and will eventually drop by the wayside to make way for Bush. This has been their plan since 2014.

The only problem for the GOP Elite is Trump. He wasn't considered and is mucking up their plan and he's causing all sorts of headaches for them. They haven't given up, but they are having a very hard time marginalizing Trump and getting back on track to nominate Bush.

I don't consider Trump unstoppable, but I don't assume the GOP Elite will be successful, either. We just have to wait and see.
 
After finally watching some of Trump's rallies rather than just roll my eyes and chuckle at him, I was quite surprised, especially contrasted with the sound bites that were making the headlines below in the little banners. "Trump says outrageous this and that!" And yet while watching it, clearly the context was him joking around with the audience...cleverly, charismatic-ally, effectively, and on message. He wins at the delivery, there is no denying it.

I am not party establishment, i am not beholden to big money donors behind the scenes, I have no interest in running for office other than making America great, and watch as I tear up the Republican candidates...that's what I'll do for you as POTUS, tear up the opposition to us being great again. (whatever it is is irrelevant).

As a matter of academic observation, it was impressive. I would not be surprised if moderates are shocked at how appealing his speeches are once they have to start actually paying attention to some of them. And the knowledge that he use to vote democrat will just make him all the more appealing to a wider base...
 
If Trump can run the table on the first three primary elections - finishing first in Iowa, then New Hampshire and then South Carolina - it will be difficult to stop him without also tearing up the party at the same time.
 
ludin said:
There is only 1 serious candidate and that is Rubio.
like some of his views or not he really is the best guy up there.

at this point he has my vote come the primary and probably will carry florida as a whole.
I also see him getting many of the mid states and out west as well.

I honestly think he is the dark horse in this race. let trump and cruz beat the crap out of each other.
it will make it easier on Rubio.
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$1 on Kasich.
 
Mach said:
After finally watching some of Trump's rallies rather than just roll my eyes and chuckle at him, I was quite surprised, especially contrasted with the sound bites that were making the headlines below in the little banners. "Trump says outrageous this and that!" And yet while watching it, clearly the context was him joking around with the audience...cleverly, charismatic-ally, effectively, and on message. He wins at the delivery, there is no denying it.

I am not party establishment, i am not beholden to big money donors behind the scenes, I have no interest in running for office other than making America great, and watch as I tear up the Republican candidates...that's what I'll do for you as POTUS, tear up the opposition to us being great again. (whatever it is is irrelevant).

As a matter of academic observation, it was impressive. I would not be surprised if moderates are shocked at how appealing his speeches are once they have to start actually paying attention to some of them. And the knowledge that he use to vote democrat will just make him all the more appealing to a wider base...
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You're review is shared by others who have actually seen and heard him. Notes on a Phenomenon :: SteynOnline
 
I think it is a bit of a stretch to liken Reagan to Trump.
 
Unstoppable...no. However He will win unless there is some unforeseen circumstance but...nothing on the horizon.

The other candidates know he has a lock on the nomination. The only ones who criticize him except 'play fighting' are those who in the race for the last time and have no chance at the VP position. Graham (gone) and Bush (about to be gone) may attack Trumps character....the others have an eye on the VP or need to tap into Trump (and Cruz) supporters in 2920.

Potential VP...Rubio, Cruz, Christie, maybe Huckabee. They won't be considered if they attack Trump at a personal level.
 
Helix said:
i still think it's unlikely that he will get the nomination, as the Republican party has never struck me as suicidal.
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He will either get the nomination, or he will run as an independent, thus splitting the Republican vote. The GOP is totally screwed either way.
 
Helix said:
i still think it's unlikely that he will get the nomination, as the Republican party has never struck me as suicidal.
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It's bad enough that they try to appeal to the talk radio listeners....now they gotta give them the vote too? ;)
 
X Factor said:
I've enjoyed the theater for awhile but now I'm like enough is enough. Time to get serious.
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It was pleasant theater for one debate. It's been long since time to get serious, but the Republican Party is seemingly intent on losing this damn election--or at the very least, making its increasingly populist base dumber than it already was 5 years ago.

I'm praying for closed room deals in the convention at this point. I was willing to vote for about 7 candidates in the GOP primary. Seven candidates. That's ordinarily a sure damn thing, right? I was only interested in Webb for the Democrats and he went away after only one debate. I really don't want to have to vote for Hillary, but the Republicans are really starting to make it an attractive offer right now. Boring, mediocre sanity is preferable to what I am seeing now.
 
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Ignore the highly paid pundits with big egos, ignore the polls, who's outstanding skill is explaining how they got it wrong yet again, go with your gut feeling. The 'political experts' are more often wrong than right, such is the lesson from history. So the answer to the OP q is 'No one knows'.
 
Fiddytree said:
It was pleasant theater for one debate. It's been long since time to get serious, but the Republican Party is seemingly intent on losing this damn election--or at the very least, making its increasingly populist base dumber than it already was 5 years ago.

I'm praying for closed room deals in the convention at this point. I was willing to vote for about 7 candidates in the GOP primary. Seven candidates. That's ordinarily a sure damn thing, right? I was only interested in Webb for the Democrats and he went away after only one debate. I really don't want to have to vote for Hillary, but the Republicans are really starting to make it an attractive offer right now. Boring, mediocre sanity is preferable to what I am seeing now.
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So...just because you see all of the Republicans as boring or incompetent, you settle for voting for the crook? I'd say that's making a lousy choice.

I'd rather not vote, myself.
 
Renae said:
What a terrible thought American voters failed to learn a lesson with electing an egotistical populist by rallying to the next. This is how Republics fall, the fat, the stupid, the lazy get to vote.
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Poll Tests. We need poll tests.
 
I get the animosity of the voting public. The governmental BS machine is out of control, and folks have had it.

But Trump isn't the answer, and I don't think I could get on board with him. I'd have a much easier time supporting Cruz if he got the nomination instead of my candidate.

Trump isn't worthy of the office. Neither is Obama, Hillary, or Sanders, but I don't want a supposed conservative of his ilk manning that post from the party I more align with.
 
Erod said:
I get the animosity of the voting public. The governmental BS machine is out of control, and folks have had it.

But Trump isn't the answer, and I don't think I could get on board with him. I'd have a much easier time supporting Cruz if he got the nomination instead of my candidate.

Trump isn't worthy of the office. Neither is Obama, Hillary, or Sanders, but I don't want a supposed conservative of his ilk manning that post from the party I more align with.
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I'm not sold on Trump...but neither am I sold on Cruz.

This is how I see it:

Trump is more concerned with fiscal matters than social issues. Cruz is just the opposite with his religious connections. I'm more concerned with fiscal matters, as well. But...I'm not sure either of them will be able to convince any of the establishment politicians they'll be dealing with to do what they want.

However, either one of them would be a darn sight better than any Democrat who might end up being the left's candidate and I can't think of any other Republican I would be happy seeing in the White House. So...I'll just continue to wait and see who the Parties end up nominating and deciding how I'll vote then.
 
Mycroft said:
I'm not sold on Trump...but neither am I sold on Cruz.

This is how I see it:

Trump is more concerned with fiscal matters than social issues. Cruz is just the opposite with his religious connections. I'm more concerned with fiscal matters, as well. But...I'm not sure either of them will be able to convince any of the establishment politicians they'll be dealing with to do what they want.

However, either one of them would be a darn sight better than any Democrat who might end up being the left's candidate and I can't think of any other Republican I would be happy seeing in the White House. So...I'll just continue to wait and see who the Parties end up nominating and deciding how I'll vote then.
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Agreed, but Rubio isn't getting traction.

We're about to be left with a demented felon versus a reality TV star.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
I remember a while ago when I was posting much more frequently reading many US posters saying Trump would be out and exposed within days of his candidacy but here we are months later and he's a runaway front runner. And as the BBC article points out - the Repubican Party may just decide to unite and work with him. I don't know much about the other candidates but they speak of (Ted?) Cruz as being a less desirable candidate for the Republican machine to work with.
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They all hide or deny that now and have turned into haters/spoilers.
 
Grant said:
In fact that's just what they've been. This also explains Trump's appeal. The World They Made :: SteynOnline
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Nobody cares , or at least 99% don't care about labels. Politicos yammering to each other about silly labels is a non issue for the public.

Trump is this...Hillary is that...irrelevant.

It will be 'who do I like better? Who do I trust more? Who will be the better President? The pundits will put them into ideological boxes but they are for the most part meaningless. The old media and the talking heads are a step behind what's happening in society. They keep bringing up past elections as if some 25 year old voter in LA or Memphis had ever heard of the candidates.
 
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Erod said:
Agreed, but Rubio isn't getting traction.
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A Resurgent Marco Rubio Sprints to the Finish in Iowa

...A third-place finish is the most realistic outcome the Rubio campaign expects, but it realizes that his margin over whoever finishes in fourth place is also significant. A large margin going into the New Hampshire primary a week later would give him a lift there. With Iowa out of reach, New Hampshire is the state where Mr. Rubio hopes to be able to perform strongly enough to begin consolidating support from the more moderate, establishment-aligned wing of the Republican Party.

Though his campaign does not expect him to win in New Hampshire, either, a strong finish would enable his supporters to start applying pressure to donors who have backed other candidates, namely Jeb Bush, to jump on board. Many donors have privately indicated that they would switch their allegiances to Mr. Rubio, several people inside and outside his campaign have said, but they want to first see how New Hampshire votes....
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clownboy said:
Third isn't going to cut it. No one cares about the Bronze. His only shot is a VP nod.
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Rubio is still in it to retain credibility for 2020 or 2024. His best hope is VP...thus no attack Trump on character or leadership issues....only policy.

Also, 2020 and the future will be even more open to the rise of outsiders. Rubio can't alienate Trump or his supporters. Trump and Cruz aren't just a slice of the party but now half the pie.
 
clownboy said:
Third isn't going to cut it. No one cares about the Bronze. His only shot is a VP nod.
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:shrug: third in Iowa is all he needs. Iowa doesn't decide the election (in fact, winners of the Iowa caucus typically don't do very well afterwards).

He also needs second or a close third in New Hampshire, however.

Bill Clinton, for example, took 3rd in Iowa, and 2nd in New Hampshire. Then he took fourth and third respectively in the next two races.

The first two get the most run-up and the most attention, but they're hardly determinative.
 
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cpwill said:
:shrug: third in Iowa is all he needs. Iowa doesn't decide the election (in fact, winners of the Iowa caucus typically don't do very well afterwards).

He also needs second or a close third in New Hampshire, however.
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He's polling fourth in NH. Face it, he's toast.
 
clownboy said:
He's polling fourth in NH. Face it, he's toast.
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He does indeed need a strong third performance in Iowa and to improve his game in New Hampshire.

Ironically, Trump's best allies in this race are the candidates struggling to be The Establishment Candidate - Kasich, Bush, and Christie.
 
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