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Trump Says He Could 'Shoot Somebody' And Still Maintain Support

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Yeah, like good thing I'm not the one running for office, eh? Are you trying to insult me because I reminded one of your fellow Hillary supporters what a crook she is?

No, just chuckling over your strange defense of Donald, seeing you resort to pointing at Hillary and saying, "Look. A crook! In a pantsuit no less."
 
Yeah, like good thing I'm not the one running for office, eh? Are you trying to insult me because I reminded one of your fellow Hillary supporters what a crook she is?

No, I think he's mocking you because TPD pointed out that your candidate basically just called you a lemming, and your response was "Oh Yeah!?! Well Hillary is a Criminal!!!"....

.....as though that somehow alleviated your implicit admission.
 
Paranoia aside, the President has the power to wage war, and Americans who wage war against their own country forego any later claims to due process.

During the Civil War, for example, President Lincoln didn't attempt to put each Confederate soldier on trial, get a judgement, and then see if trying to arrest them first would work - he used cannon to blast them into pieces en masse. And that was the right decision.

Why are you jumping all the way to a trial? I'm not suggesting that we need a long process or other protections such a Miranda warning. I want the President to identify such individuals, present the evidence to a judge who says: "OK you can kill him." The the President can bomb the crap out of him and any of his non-American Citizen friends. If there is no American citizen known to be in such a group, then bomb away. Of course accidents can happen, but at least there is a small check on the President deciding to kill an American Citizen.

This isn't about paranoia, this is a check on the power of the federal government against a citizen. A concept I might have thought you would support. Hopefully you don't think the only privilege of citizenship is to be able to pay taxes on any income earned anywhere.
 
How do you know who the "base" is? There might be a difference between the Republican "base" and who Trump supporters are. After all, 60% of Republican voters aren't in Trump's corner. Maybe they are the "base".
The term "base" just refers to people who regularly support candidates of a particular party. If 40% of Republican voters support Trump, then at least 40% of the base is stupid.
 
The term "base" just refers to people who regularly support candidates of a particular party. If 40% of Republican voters support Trump, then at least 40% of the base is stupid.
Rumor has it that a lot of his current support is coming from disaffected Democrats. I'm thinking it's a mix of the old "democrats for McCain crowd and the independents who left Obama between term 1 and two. Just say'n.
 
The con-man always looks down on his mark.
True. I would hope, though, that the mark could get his/her **** together and realize that they're being conned. For all his supporters know, Trump could get into the White House and revert back to his liberal ideology. He's a wild card.
 
Rumor has it that a lot of his current support is coming from disaffected Democrats. Just say'n.
I'm going to need a lot more than a "rumor" to believe that, particularly considering that most overtly racist Democrats left the party in the 60s.
 
True. I would hope, though, that the mark could get his/her **** together and realize that they're being conned. For all his supporters know, Trump could get into the White House and revert back to his liberal ideology. He's a wild card.

If he wins the nomination, he'll tailor his campaign on who he runs against. If it's Bernie, it'll be easy. He'll come out as the suddenly pragmatic sane guy. If it's Hillary, he'll have to go hard at her record of being a political insider who talks out of both sides of her mouth. Should be a good show.

How he would govern is a real mystery to me too. Deal making and crony capitalism, getting the lobbyists richer, would be my first guess.
 
I'm going to need a lot more than a "rumor" to believe that, particularly considering that most overtly racist Democrats left the party in the 60s.

I just go by what I've read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/u...pporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html?_r=0

Donald Trump holds a dominant position in national polls in the Republican race in no small part because he is extremely strong among people on the periphery of the G.O.P. coalition.

He is strongest among Republicans who are less affluent, less educated and less likely to turn out to vote. His very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats.
 
I'm going to need a lot more than a "rumor" to believe that, particularly considering that most overtly racist Democrats left the party in the 60s.

From that famous Right-Wing Blog: The New York Times: Donald Trump's Strongest Supporters - A Certain Kind of Democrat

True. I would hope, though, that the mark could get his/her **** together and realize that they're being conned. For all his supporters know, Trump could get into the White House and revert back to his liberal ideology. He's a wild card.

I don't think that many of his supporters really care about conservatism - they seem to mostly care about saying F You and We Are Strong to the elites whom they feel have alternately belittled and ignored them.

The ads that attack this particular vulnerability write themselves. You find the workers he's put out of work by hiring illegals. You find the people he's had government kick out of their homes. For all of Trump's claims to be the warrior on behalf of blue collar workers.... you find blue collar workers he's screwed over.
 
From that famous Right-Wing Blog: The New York Times: Donald Trump's Strongest Supporters - A Certain Kind of Democrat



I don't think that many of his supporters really care about conservatism - they seem to mostly care about saying F You and We Are Strong to the elites whom they feel have alternately belittled and ignored them.

The ads that attack this particular vulnerability write themselves. You find the workers he's put out of work by hiring illegals. You find the people he's had government kick out of their homes. For all of Trump's claims to be the warrior on behalf of blue collar workers.... you find blue collar workers he's screwed over.

Hilarious is blue collar workers, disaffected Democrats, thinking Trump represents them. Totally hilarious.
 
That's a really interesting article. Thanks. I suppose the voters described kind of fit Trump's message of hating Muslims & Mexicans while wanting to white blue collar workers jobs and tax breaks. I suppose he's tapping a previously untapped market.

I don't think that many of his supporters really care about conservatism - they seem to mostly care about saying F You and We Are Strong to the elites whom they feel have alternately belittled and ignored them.

The ads that attack this particular vulnerability write themselves. You find the workers he's put out of work by hiring illegals. You find the people he's had government kick out of their homes. For all of Trump's claims to be the warrior on behalf of blue collar workers.... you find blue collar workers he's screwed over.
I also read an article where the author asked a Trump supporter at one of his rallies if he would actually vote for him the election and the guy responded by saying that he might if he wasn't too busy so there's also that issue of how many of his passionate supporters will actually vote.
 
If he wins the nomination, he'll tailor his campaign on who he runs against. If it's Bernie, it'll be easy. He'll come out as the suddenly pragmatic sane guy. If it's Hillary, he'll have to go hard at her record of being a political insider who talks out of both sides of her mouth. Should be a good show.

How he would govern is a real mystery to me too. Deal making and crony capitalism, getting the lobbyists richer, would be my first guess.
Yeah, he probably would tailor his campaign in that manner. All he cares about is winning and he'll do what it takes.

I think that, however, he chooses to govern, no other political leaders will take him seriously and that will be a huge hurdle to climb.
 
That's a really interesting article. Thanks. I suppose the voters described kind of fit Trump's message of hating Muslims & Mexicans while wanting to white blue collar workers jobs and tax breaks. I suppose he's tapping a previously untapped market.


I also read an article where the author asked a Trump supporter at one of his rallies if he would actually vote for him the election and the guy responded by saying that he might if he wasn't too busy so there's also that issue of how many of his passionate supporters will actually vote.
Well its an open question, though data > anecdote. We will see and have a good grip, I think, after New Hampshire, whether he matches or underperforms (or outperforms) polls.

The Blue Collar Democrat hasn't had much of anywhere to go. Democrats want to replace him with cheaper (and more reliably Democrat) immigrants, and Republicans recognized the benefits of free trade (which help the same blue collar types as well, but falling prices doesn't satisfy like rising pay). Both parties ignored them, and now they are rising as an interest group.
 
It was NY talk, an exaggeration to make a point. Beck is pretending otherwise, he is all "SEE SEE, TRUMP IS DANGEROUS!, I TOLD YA SO!".

fool

I agree. The media would do itself a favor, while on it's death bed, to have enough respect for it's customers to include the full context of these statements they are trying to spin.
 
Trump is acquitted by the senate, then will justice be done in court ?

Supreme Court Ends Emoluments Suits Against Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/25/us/emoluments-trump-supreme-court.html

Supreme Court shuts down 2 Trump emoluments cases
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/25/supreme-court-trump-emolument-cases-462134

List of federal judges appointed by Donald Trump
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

How Trump compares with other recent presidents in appointing federal judges
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...cent-presidents-in-appointing-federal-judges/
 
A majority of Republicans do not support Trump.

Failed to see the date my comment was posted - didya? Here, in larger text Jan 23, 2016

To make this a bit more relevant to our present-day world, I will type a few words.

From Nov 2015 up to November 2020, a majority of Republicans DID support DJT. His actions and words in the days following the election have caused many 'conservatives' to re-think their past support of the man. So, your comment appears to be truthful AT THIS TIME.
 
I originally chuckled at the people who took this seriously. I took it as as a joke.
How wrong I was.
 
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