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Putin implicated in fatal poisoning of former KGB spy at posh London hotel

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The findings — nearly a decade after Alexander Litvinenko succumbed to the effects of the radioactive polonium slipped into his cup of green tea at London’s Millennium Hotel — is sure to raise tensions between London and Moscow and possibly sharpen the focus on other suspicious deaths among Putin’s foes.
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I remember this being in the news.

The inquiry's findings, set out over 328 pages, include that Putin had a personal motive for wanting Litvinenko dead, and that the president would likely have had to approve a high-stakes operation to assassinate the former KGB operative on British soil.
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Doesn't prove much. Russia won't let the accused killers face extradition to Britain. This is just a bruise for Putin, but will it add up to all the additional pressures in Syria and Ukraine. That dude is just crazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-implicated-in-fatal-poisoning-of-former-kgb-spy-at-posh-london-hotel/2016/01/21/2c0c5052-bf92-11e5-98c8-7fab78677d51_story.html
 
Independent my ASS.

You are in no way independent when you use the words "probably was involved".. stick to the ****ing facts. This was a political hatchet job ordered by the UK and US governments.

And no I dont support Putin, and I fully expect he was behind the assassination, but it is the methodology and conclusions of this so called independet inquiry that is the problem. They had the ability to lay out the facts and make a conclusion from those facts, but in stead they chose to exploit a political angle and hence making it possible for the Russians and its allies to dismiss the whole inquiry as a political vendetta.. pathetic.
 
PeteEU said:
Independent my ASS.

You are in no way independent when you use the words "probably was involved".. stick to the ****ing facts. This was a political hatchet job ordered by the UK and US governments.

And no I dont support Putin, and I fully expect he was behind the assassination, but it is the methodology and conclusions of this so called independet inquiry that is the problem. They had the ability to lay out the facts and make a conclusion from those facts, but in stead they chose to exploit a political angle and hence making it possible for the Russians and its allies to dismiss the whole inquiry as a political vendetta.. pathetic.
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Agreed. They are just pissed with him and are trying to politically angle around him. The report had no proof, just a lot of speculation (from the few articles I reviewed).

The extradition part is interesting. I don't expect the two who are accused to ever leave Russia, but I am sure they will have a nice life there.
 
This entire story hinges on the word "probably." As in we are confident Putin approved the assassination, but do not have proof beyond reasonable doubt.

There is no doubt that Putin is a self-serving, authoritarian, and dangerous egomaniac. But what is missing from the story, and the named report in, is that undeniable proof that Putin gave the explicit order.
 
OrphanSlug said:
This entire story hinges on the word "probably." As in we are confident Putin approved the assassination, but do not have proof beyond reasonable doubt.

There is no doubt that Putin is a self-serving, authoritarian, and dangerous egomaniac. But what is missing from the story, and the named report in, is that undeniable proof that Putin gave the explicit order.
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But it is so much fun to hate on Putin.
 
Blue_State said:
Agreed. They are just pissed with him and are trying to politically angle around him. The report had no proof, just a lot of speculation (from the few articles I reviewed).

The extradition part is interesting. I don't expect the two who are accused to ever leave Russia, but I am sure they will have a nice life there.
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Apparently the judge in charge of the investigation had access to secret intel evidence from UK secret services.

I find it unlikely that an assassination attempt on a UK spy in London would not have needed approval from the very top.
 
Putin never would have done such a thing, He's clearly such a well rounded and ethical guy.
 
Blue_State said:
But it is so much fun to hate on Putin.
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Well of course it is, and Putin himself does plenty to help us in that effort. Just not sure I buy into the "report" the story is talking about.
 
PeteEU said:
Independent my ASS.

You are in no way independent when you use the words "probably was involved".. stick to the ****ing facts. This was a political hatchet job ordered by the UK and US governments.

And no I dont support Putin, and I fully expect he was behind the assassination, but it is the methodology and conclusions of this so called independet inquiry that is the problem. They had the ability to lay out the facts and make a conclusion from those facts, but in stead they chose to exploit a political angle and hence making it possible for the Russians and its allies to dismiss the whole inquiry as a political vendetta.. pathetic.
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Completely agreed!

Putin's success against ISIS has NATO more than a little bit upset, and the propaganda against him is being turned up even more.
 
Putin implicated in fatal poisoning of former KGB spy at posh London hotel

January 21, 2016

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A British judge concluded Jan. 21 that Russia was responsible for the death of former Russian agent Alexander Litvinenko.
Sir Robert Owen said that he is certain Litvinenko was given tea with a fatal dose of polonium-210 by KGB agents in London.

LONDON — Russian President Vladimir Putin was likely personally responsible for approving the fatal poisoning at a posh London hotel of a former KGB operative-turned-U.K. intelligence agent, according to the findings of a highly anticipated British inquiry released Thursday.

The conclusion, which comes nearly a decade after Alexander Litvinenko succumbed to the effects of the radioactive polonium slipped into his cup of green tea at London’s Millennium Hotel, is sure to raise tensions between London and Moscow.

Litvinenko's widow called Thursday for Britain to expel Russian intelligence officials and enact new sanctions in retaliation for the killing.
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Unlike his victims within Russia who cannot hope for justice, a British judge implicitly labels Putin a co-conspirator in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko. Sir Robert Owen also named former KGB agents Dmitri Kovtun and Andrei Lugovoi as the perpetrators who poisoned him. Russia has refused all requests to have Kovtun and Lugovoi extradited to the UK. After murdering Livinenko, KGB agent Lugovoi returned to Russia and is now a MP in the State Duma (lower House of Parliament).
 
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