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US imposes sanctions linked to Iran's ballistic missile program [W:40]

Simpleχity;1065471088 said:
On Saturday, long-standing economic sanctions against Iran were removed. This resulted in $100 billion dollars being released to Iran. Iran is also allowed to increase its daily oil export quota from 1.1 million barrels of crude oil to 1.6 million and shortly thereafter to 2.1 million barrels per day.

For violating UN ballistic missile restrictions, the US has now placed sanctions on 6 Iranian front companies and 5 Iranian individuals. Iranian Defence Minister Hossein Dehghan told the Fars news agency that the new US sanctions would have no effect. He said: "We will prove it in practice by unveiling new missile achievements."


Iran - by far - came out way ahead in this latest sanctions removed/imposed exchange.

I have one question. What is the difference between a ballistic missile and a missile used to put satellites in orbit?
 
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be careful about labeling people low information folks....

is a measured and well-know fact...political correctness and embarrassment is not the concern here

It is curious how one day after lifting sanctions, new sanctions with little teeth, and of little consequence, are imposed

Sanctions imposed are for different reason than the nuclear issue.....you/we have no facts/idea to judge the efficacy/political considerations/consequences of sanctions are/will be

Perhaps you finally answered the question, but it seems valid to question why the sanctions imposed because of this missile test were not directed towards the government, as opposed to the rather weak approach taken.

as of now we have no idea of effect of sanctions on government is..... but I assure you...they effect the government of Iran

Frankly, I think all sanctions should be lifted, and Iran treated like any other nation.

Sanctions from nuclear deal are in process of being lifted

This "treaty" is going to be nothing but a propaganda tool for the radicals in Iran to use as evidence of the evil intent of the west for years to come.

as a matter of fact it is just the opposite... Iranian radicals vociferously oppose the Nuclear deal
 
Sad not trusting the government? Not a conservative position, if you ask me.

The government, and their establishment politicians, have worked hard to earn this disdain. There's nothing here that has anything to do with 'low information folks'. All you have to do is look at their more than ample track record of failure.

In general I agree with your observations...
 
Sanctions imposed are for different reason than the nuclear issue.....you/we have no facts/idea to judge the efficacy/political considerations/consequences of sanctions are/will be



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So you don't think the Nuke and Ballistic Missile Development are linked and pose a parallel risk? How else could Iran make-use/deliver a nuke bomb? .....and ballistic missiles are NOT effective (cost or accuracy wise) delivering standard explosive ordnance. See, one is pretty useless without the other. Only Russia and the US (maybe China, MAYBE India) has 'Suit Case Nuke' tech.
 
So you don't think the Nuke and Ballistic Missile Development are linked and pose a parallel risk? How else could Iran make-use/deliver a nuke bomb? .....and ballistic missiles are NOT effective (cost or accuracy wise) delivering standard explosive ordnance. See, one is pretty useless without the other. Only Russia and the US (maybe China, MAYBE India) has 'Suit Case Nuke' tech.

If you took the time to read yesterday/today news reports on the subject I would not have to face answering silly questions
 
Do you have any evidence that this missile test was directly funded by freed up sanctions and the revenue generated by those sanctions being freed?

Since that is not what I said, I have no reason to try to create a response other than this: You may want to re-read my post to see what I actually did say - or not, it's entirely up to you.
 
If you took the time to read yesterday/today news reports on the subject I would not have to face answering silly questions

I just have questions about your reading comprehension, memory and rational thought process. Here comes a series of rational questions

1) So you concede you understand that the Ballistic Missiles are directly linked to Iran's Nuke ambitions! Correct?
2) Why would the Iranians pay to test BMs if they have no Nuke ambitions and intend to live up to that BS meaningless treaty Obama got the US into? (those lying bastages claim its all for peaceful energy)
3) WHY didn't the spineless sniveling president 'Red Line' sanction the Iranian Gov, rather than these phony front entitles? The BMs is an OBVIOUS Nuke Deal Violation!
 
Dear Chainsaw

I just have questions about your reading comprehension, memory and rational thought process. Here comes a series of rational questions

1) So you concede you understand that the Ballistic Missiles are directly linked to Iran's Nuke ambitions! Correct?

never said so..........or implied it....or meant it.......the links provided did not make that connection/relationship........


2) Why would the Iranians pay to test BMs if they have no Nuke ambitions and intend to live up to that BS meaningless treaty Obama got the US into? (those lying bastages claim its all for peaceful energy)

why you ask?

I have no idea why Iranians tested missile... more so do not assume/guess/speculate............that is until I know the facts ......maybe like the China/Japan/India/etc. they want to do space exploration... now as far as Korea they have said they want to nuke the US as soon as they have a missile that can reach US....... But having said that..........Iran has no nuke..........nor will they any time soon...

BTW
Treaty is not with President Obama.........It is with the UN and the some 200 odd nations of the world, including the US of course




3) WHY didn't the spineless sniveling president 'Red Line' sanction the Iranian Gov, rather than these phony front entitles? The BMs is an OBVIOUS Nuke Deal Violation

Really now is, no need to spill your bile here....we all know how you feel about our President..........Why were sanctions imposed? Because it poses a threat to the Middle East........like Israel........... but I am going out on a limb here......as for the real reason I'll see if I can find it and will get back to you............
 
Iranian Missile Sanctions

As stated the Iranian Missile sanctions imposed are not related to the Iranian Nuclear Deal. The UN the established restrictions by passing six UN Security Council resolutions in response to Iran’s sensitive nuclear activities are restrictions on Iran’s ballistic missile activities relating to the delivery of a nuclear weapon and restrictions on heavy conventional arms transfers to Iran. UN resolutions several years ago and not part of Nuclear Deal.
https://www.armscontrol.org/reports...Irans-Ballistic-Missiles-and-the-Nuclear-Deal
Resolution 2231 (2015) | Specific restrictions - Ballistic missile-related transfers and activities
Missing From the Iran Deal Announcement: Ballistic Missiles


UN voted an extension of the arms embargo and missile ban came in U.N. Security Council resolution 2231, which was unanimously adopted on July 20 2015. The new resolution endorses the nuclear deal, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), and implements certain aspects of the agreement, including a procurement channel for exports of proliferation-sensitive items to Iran.
What the Iran Deal Says (and Doesn’t Say) about Iran’s Ballistic Missiles | Iran Watch

US Missile Sanction

The U.S. Treasury Department sanctioned nearly a dozen Iranian-linked entities Sunday for their alleged role in Tehran’s ballistic-missile program. Sanctioning a range of companies and individuals in Hong Kong, the United Arab Emirates and Iran, after Iran conducted its latest ballistic missile test in October.

The sanctions prohibit U.S. or foreign nationals from conducting business with the blacklisted firms. U.S. banks are also ordered to freeze any assets the companies or individuals hold inside the American financial system.
The Treasury also sanctioned five Iranian officials working at the country’s Ministry of Defense for Armed Forces Logistics, or MODAFL, and its subsidiaries for allegedly working on the ballistic-missile program. Among the reasons for the new sanctions are ties the Treasury is alleging between Iran and North Korea on missile development. U.S. Sanctions 11 Iranian-Tied Entities for Role in Tehran?s Ballistic Missile Program - WSJ

Impact of Ballistic Sanctions on Iran


The United States has imposed sanctions against 11 individuals and entities involved in Iran's ballistic missile program as a result of Tehran's firing of a medium-range ballistic missile. Sanctions have constricted Iran’s ability to procure equipment for … missile programs and to import advanced conventional weaponry.
The United States, France, Britain and Germany asked the Security Council on Oct. 21 to investigate and take "appropriate action" against Iran for the Oct. 10 missile launch.
The Dec. 11 report by experts from the council committee monitoring sanctions against Iran supports the contention of the four countries that the firing violated U.N. sanctions.
Whether the Security Council takes any action remains to be seen.
The new sanctions by the Treasury department target those missile activities...new sanctions prevent 11 entities and individuals linked to the missile programme from using the US banking system. Furthermore, the US “primary” sanctions will continue to prohibit US persons in general from carrying out business with Iran outside the few exempted areas such as food, medicine and the newly liberalised aviation sector. Banks are therefore likely to be weary in clearing US dollars transactions for Iran-related business for the foreseeable future.

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics...-iran-sanctions-for-ballistic-missile-testing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iran-sanctions-ballistic_us_569bb3c5e4b0778f46f9a0e0
https://wamu.org/news/16/01/17/us_i...tions_on_iran_day_after_many_penalties_lifted
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/16/iran-missile-test-violated-un-sanctions-experts-say.html
http://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2015/may/05/report-impact-sanctions-iran
https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/jl0322.aspx
http://www.ukpandi.com/knowledge/article/iran-sanctions-implications-of-implementation-day-134325/
 
So you don't think the Nuke and Ballistic Missile Development are linked and pose a parallel risk? How else could Iran make-use/deliver a nuke bomb? .....and ballistic missiles are NOT effective (cost or accuracy wise) delivering standard explosive ordnance. See, one is pretty useless without the other. Only Russia and the US (maybe China, MAYBE India) has 'Suit Case Nuke' tech.

Nuclear bombs are useless to Iran whether they are on a missile or not. That's why they are giving up on making one. The cannot use one without committing national suicide. Their missile program is likely to be scaled back now that they don't need to worry about being invaded like Iraq was. You need to chill.
 
Sad not trusting the government? Not a conservative position, if you ask me.

The government, and their establishment politicians.............


Therein is the problem.............

Conservatism is not defined by the position on political issue you hold/believe in............... But by the principles and values one practices and lives ones life by..........

In real conservatism one can hold a different view on an issue..........and opinion respected....... without fear of being ostracized or being told that is not the proper position/belief to be considered a "real" conservative...........
 
I have one question. What is the difference between a ballistic missile and a missile used to put satellites in orbit?
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1929 passed on 9 June 2010. UNSCR 1929 banned Iran from participating in any activities related to ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons.

Last fall Iran conducted two ballistic missile tests, one on October 10 and one on November 21. In mid-December, a UN panel concluded that the October launch violated UNSCR 1929. The UN panel of experts assessing the tests considers missiles capable of delivering a 500kg payload at least 300km to be nuclear-capable missiles. The missile Iran tested (Emad/October 10) had a payload of 1,400 kilograms (1.5 tons) and a range of 1,300 kilometers (800 miles). These parameters far exceed the parameters acceptable to UNSCR 1929.

Ballistic Missile
 
Simpleχity;1065474629 said:
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1929 passed on 9 June 2010. UNSCR 1929 banned Iran from participating in any activities related to ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons.

Last fall Iran conducted two ballistic missile tests, one on October 10 and one on November 21. In mid-December, a UN panel concluded that the October launch violated UNSCR 1929. The UN panel of experts assessing the tests considers missiles capable of delivering a 500kg payload at least 300km to be nuclear-capable missiles. The missile Iran tested (Emad/October 10) had a payload of 1,400 kilograms (1.5 tons) and a range of 1,300 kilometers (800 miles). These parameters far exceed the parameters acceptable to UNSCR 1929.

Ballistic Missile

Does this mean the UN will also put sanctions on Israel for their missile programs?
 
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