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NH Poll: Bernie Sanders leads Hillary Clinton in every major voting bloc

its in my previous post

Because I don't believe Bernie can win the whole pie America is not ready for him not yet

Clinton has said she will move cannabis to schedule 2 to allow more medical research which for sure will blow the whole no medical benefits line the feds have been feeding us since Richard Nixon (ya another Republican)

I would of course I would like him (Bernie) to win

But its not going to happen America is not ready for a socialist Prez The Republicans have brainwashed the country into believing Socialism=communism which is false

That is a tough obstacle to overcome not impossible

therefore Clinton is the best option short of voting for a Republican or Trump

So you don't believe the polls out right now showing bernie beating the GOP candidates in a much larger fashion than Clinton can?

Bernie Sanders Is Easily the Most Electable Candidate, Evidenced by Recent Polls
 
Read 'em & weep! [if you're Clinton or a Clinton supporter]

Saturday, January 10.

Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 48, Trump 40 Clinton +8
Iowa: Trump vs. Sanders NBC/WSJ/Marist Sanders 51, Trump 38 Sanders +13
Iowa: Cruz vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Cruz 47, Clinton 43 Cruz +4
Iowa: Cruz vs. Sanders NBC/WSJ/Marist Sanders 47, Cruz 42 Sanders +5
Iowa: Rubio vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Rubio 47, Clinton 42 Rubio +5
Iowa: Rubio vs. Sanders NBC/WSJ/Marist Rubio 44, Sanders 44 Tie
New Hampshire: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 45, Trump 44 Clinton +1
New Hampshire: Trump vs. Sanders NBC/WSJ/Marist Sanders 56, Trump 37 Sanders +19
New Hampshire: Cruz vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 44, Cruz 48 Cruz +4
New Hampshire: Cruz vs. Sanders NBC/WSJ/Marist Sanders 55, Cruz 37 Sanders +18
New Hampshire: Rubio vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Rubio 52, Clinton 40 Rubio +12
New Hampshire: Rubio vs. Sanders NBC/WSJ/Marist Sanders 50, Rubio 41 Sanders +9



Source: Real Clear Politics: Election 2016 Presidential Polls
You know, I didn't realize this until after I posted it, but Sanders appears to be the strongest candidate on the board!

He loses to no one, often showing a fair amount of lead, especially against the GOP front-runner (Trump), Does better than HRC everywhere, and his lowest showing is a tie against Rubio ... in IA! A socialist running strong & winning in IA! :doh
 
No different than voting on guns, IMO. If you value freedom, you should place a decently high priority on ending at least that part of our War on Drugs that robs freedom from millions of individuals, ruins lives, wastes $billions in taxes, for smoking a weed no more harmful (probably less) than a beer or two.

I haven't smoked pot for 30 years, and don't see me starting anytime soon, but I'd actually never vote for someone who I thought actually believed (as opposed to took a political position) that we should continue the ban on pot, that there are good reasons to make smoking it or selling it a crime punishable by jail time. It's a position so contradicted by ALL the evidence that I just couldn't trust them on really any issue. They might as well have looked at the first Prohibition, thought that it worked out so well that we need to do that again - bring back Prohibition II!!

I am retired Air Force

Never touched the stuff until I retired and was looking for alternatives to pain killers for my arthritis and PTSD

Anyways that's it in a nutshell the stuff is basically harmless has great medicinal benefits

Best its not physically addictive like the pain meds the docs pushed

It is an important issue as its not only an individual right but States rights

I thought Republicans were all for States rights ?
 
Something else I was thinking about. Trump put a shot over Hillary's bow last night when he was on the Tonight Show. He said, and I am paraphrasing, that he hasn't started to go after Clinton yet. He has been pretty effective so far. That would benefit Sanders. The only question is his timing. He might be talking about after the primaries.
You're right.

For all the talk about how tough the Clinton's are, I'm not sure HRC can handle Trump!
 
Yeah, at least to my eyes and ears, she's got negative charisma. I have to keep telling myself that stuff doesn't matter, but watching her on TV is just...difficult. Opposite of inspiring. I don't know why that is.
She's definitely no Bubba!
 
You're right.

For all the talk about how tough the Clinton's are, I'm not sure HRC can handle Trump!

She can't. The best thing that could happen for the Republicans is that Hillary would win the primaries. As a Republican, strategically, I hope that happens. Emotionally I think it would be a shame for Bernie to get beat by Hillary. I am kind of rooting for the guy.
 
She's definitely no Bubba!

Bill does seem to have more fun without the old ball and chain hanging haha

I would love to burn a blunt with Bill if he inhales cool !!
 
Around 1980, there was a decision that was made --again, for wholly greedy reasons-- that universities were sitting on a goldmine. This be seen with Sallie Mae going from a government organization for student loans to a publicly traded corporation, but there has also been a marked shift in the politics and structure of universities (It's only now, after a decade of the most heavy-hitting policies, and people are starting to be open about it). As long as you could build up marketing teams and sell university like it was any other product, and then get the government (with Sallie Mae and it's shareholders making tons of money --socialize costs but privatize profits) to pay for the student loans, everything was gravy. Then all they had to do, once they got control of the universities, was to just push those useless professors out of the way and replace them temporary contracts --but that's a separate conversation. Needless to say, we're currently tearing down our university system to sifts for the gold in the walls.

Needless to say, this only works, however, if you actually get people to buy your product. But since the product is education, it has the negative aspect of actually getting a broad swath of the public exposed to dangerous things like "facts," "critical thinking," "logic," and "inquiry."
Thanks.

Yeah, I can see where you're going with this.

And then there's now such things as Pheonix University, which might be the ultimate corporatizing of the educational process; hey, if we've got corporate prisons, why not corporate universities too, right? :doh

As someone who strongly admires the Hutchins Plan as implemented by the University of Chicago, including the Great Books & Socratic Method, you can probably guess where my thoughts are on this.

But yes, an educated populace is dangerous to hegemony and oligarchy, as can be seen with some of our politicos denouncing education and universities. I never in my wildest dreams, imagined a repudiation of education!
 
She can't. The best thing that could happen for the Republicans is that Hillary would win the primaries. As a Republican, strategically, I hope that happens. Emotionally I think it would be a shame for Bernie to get beat by Hillary. I am kind of rooting for the guy.
To tell the truth, the two guys that seem the most principled to me are Bernie & Paul.

I'm still not sure what to make of Trump, but I think I've hit the point where I want the status-quo out so badly, I'll take him over HRC!
 
I don't hold much stock in polls. I am a statistics major, to many variables for them to be accurate on a national scale, perhaps regionally sure.

Ok... then what's your thoughts on the regional polls showing Bernie leading Hillary by 14 in New Hampshire and by 5 in Iowa now?
 
Bill does seem to have more fun without the old ball and chain hanging haha

I would love to burn a blunt with Bill if he inhales cool !!
Haha!

Of course he inhaled!

Just look-at those (formerly illegal) smiles! :mrgreen:


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Ok... then what's your thoughts on the regional polls showing Bernie leading Hillary by 14 in New Hampshire and by 5 in Iowa now?

Haha

you have convinced me to have another look at Sanders

but again polls don't mean much as they so often get them wrong

My statistics professor agrees lol
 
If Sanders can pull off Iowa or NH then I may push the lever for him here San Antonio March 1

Lets see what happens between now and then
 
To tell the truth, the two guys that seem the most principled to me are Bernie & Paul.

I'm still not sure what to make of Trump, but I think I've hit the point where I want the status-quo out so badly, I'll take him over HRC!

Paul is a no win at this point. I have no idea why he never got traction. Maybe it is only the people that really get into politics that get what he is saying.
 
She's starting to get nasty about him. I love how he has her on the defensive. It seems to be working here.

Amazing what happens when a politician speaks the truth without saying nasty things about an opponent. Bernie is a breath of fresh air.
 
Amazing what happens when a politician speaks the truth without saying nasty things about an opponent. Bernie is a breath of fresh air.

I must admit, as a candidate he is looking more like a realistic option, more so than Clinton
 
What a choice.

The admitted socialist or the one under FBI investigation.

Winner takes on a New York cartoon character.

The apocalypse is near.
 
Go Bernie! :thumbs:

(But can he make it past SC?)

Oh ye of little faith. :) He wasn't supposed to make it this far remember? The media up until now has been ignoring him and covering Trump, Trump, Trump!
 
What a choice.

The admitted socialist or the one under FBI investigation.

Winner takes on a New York cartoon character.

The apocalypse is near.

OMG>.. the end is near... we're all gonna diiiiieee!!!!!11!!!!1!1!!
 
I would like to vote for Bernie

I grew up in Vermont when he was mayor of Burlington

But as I have already explained in other post, I want to vote for the candidate I feel will progress my cause and win

Therefore I will vote Clinton and hope for the best

Past the primary Sanders or Trump?
 
Amazing what happens when a politician speaks the truth without saying nasty things about an opponent. Bernie is a breath of fresh air.

I disagree with much of his ideas, but I will defend the man to the death for being sincere and honest. He's everything Clinton isn't.

I've decided that I'm going to go to Bernie's next event here in NH; not sure yet when and where it is (I have to look it up). I already went to one of his events and was struck by the passion of his supporters. No, I'm not voting for him in the primary (I'm voting for Rubio) but I'm looking past our primary to the general election where it may very well be Bernie versus the Donald. I want to get a better read on him now.
 
What a choice.

The admitted socialist or the one under FBI investigation.

Winner takes on a New York cartoon character.

The apocalypse is near.


We already live with socialism in this country, like I said you will get folks who do not understand what socialism is because for the last 50 years its a bad word. What you think SOCIAL security is for, and why? That's socialism, get it ? Probably not
 
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