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Trump Support with GOP voters soars to 39%

Dittohead not! said:
The more whoppers this blowhard demagogue tells, the more popular he becomes with his base.
And the Republicans really think he's a conservative and will actually help the party? Holy crap! How deluded can they get?
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I don't think he's campaigning on being a "conservative". He hasn't campaigned on the conservative staples of God bothering and making the rich richer.
 
Cardinal said:
Maybe you will, maybe you won't, but conservatives in general are very much lining up behind him. The writing is on the wall and at this point, I really can't think of anything that will make his base abandon him now. After everything he's said, shooting babies out of a catapult on live television would only raise his poll numbers.
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I think you're views are clouded terribly. We'll wait and see how this actually rolls out. Trump is a bad person, I cannot vote for him.
 
Helix said:
i'm somewhat surprised that Trump and Cruz are the frontrunners this close to Iowa, or that Trump ever had a viable campaign to begin with. there has to be someone in the Republican party elite who knows that Trump can't win in the general. i'll bet there's a lot of Machiavellian **** going on behind the scenes to push one of the not crazy candidates forward.
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Why can't Trump win in the general? Just because he's unlikely to get the hispanic vote? I've seen polls showing him beating Hillary and Losing to Hillary, but "can't win the general" is the Gospel his detractors are clinging to.
 
reinoe said:
Why can't Trump win in the general? Just because he's unlikely to get the hispanic vote? I've seen polls showing him beating Hillary and Losing to Hillary, but "can't win the general" is the Gospel his detractors are clinging to.
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he's unfit for office. there are plenty of partisan nutters on both sides, but there are enough sane people who lean right or left to keep an idiot blowhard like him away from the nuclear button.
 
Helix said:
he's unfit for office. there are plenty of partisan nutters on both sides, but there are enough sane people who lean right or left to keep an idiot blowhard like him away from the nuclear button.
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Hillary Clinton is unworthy of being commander in chief and never saw a military engagement she didn't like. Nothing she has said re: the use of force has been even remotely reasonable. If anyone needs to be kept away from our military it's her (and a couple fo GOP'ers but they don't have a shot.)
 
Helix said:
he's unfit for office. there are plenty of partisan nutters on both sides, but there are enough sane people who lean right or left to keep an idiot blowhard like him away from the nuclear button.
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Really? The 1960s and 70s called and want their slogans back. There's no button anymore, and the phones aren't red. Trump is the only one (besides Bernie) who hasn't taken a war stance. He's a negotiator, not a hawk.

Besides, you weren't going to vote republican regardless of who is the candidate. Can we just stop this nonsense from those who were never going to vote republican anyway pretending that's because Trump is in the race. It's not working for you any more than the metric ton of manufactured poutrage over what Trump says.
 
Renae said:
I think you're views are clouded terribly. We'll wait and see how this actually rolls out. Trump is a bad person, I cannot vote for him.
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My views are shaped by the fact that Trump saying objectively terrible things raises his poll numbers (or does not affect them negatively). They're also shaped by recent polls (on DP) showing conservatives who formerly hated Trump saying that they'll "maybe" vote for him (i.e. they'll vote for him).
 
Cardinal said:
My views are shaped by the fact that Trump saying objectively terrible things raises his poll numbers (or does not affect them negatively). They're also shaped by recent polls (on DP) showing conservatives who formerly hated Trump saying that they'll "maybe" vote for him (i.e. they'll vote for him).
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/shrug
I find your analysis is rather skewed, very skewed.
 
Renae said:
/shrug
I find your analysis is rather skewed, very skewed.
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Not at all, it's right on in this instance. A certain amount of this is normal primary reaction. When their favorite isn't looking to win the primary folks say a lot of stupid stuff, swearing not to vote for the winner, with all sorts of kneejerk reasons. But in the booth, they pull the lever for the chosen candidate anyway. Happens every primary season.
 
clownboy said:
Not at all, it's right on in this instance. A certain amount of this is normal primary reaction. When their favorite isn't looking to win the primary folks say a lot of stupid stuff, swearing not to vote for the winner, with all sorts of kneejerk reasons. But in the booth, they pull the lever for the chosen candidate anyway. Happens every primary season.
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Yeah huh. 6 months ago all we heard was how we GOP would all be voting Bush, now it's Trump. Ain't happening. I still don't think he's going to get the nod.
 
Renae said:
Yeah huh. 6 months ago all we heard was how we GOP would all be voting Bush, now it's Trump. Ain't happening. I still don't think he's going to get the nod.
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You weren't hearing that from the base. Six months ago the base was ready to abandon the party and let this be a punishment election for the republican establishment, to finally show them who's boss.

And we'll see. My take all along has been that you and the other Trump haters are wrong. Thus far they've been proven to be wrong at every turn. Don't know why you expect that to have a different result.
 
PakPuk said:
More like 3rd party will be created taking votes away from Trump so Hillary will get in.
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I will laugh so hard when Trump actually wins and the left starts blaming the 3rd party voters for letting that happen.

It's par for the course, the lackeys of the 2 major parties can't take responsibility for their own failings - and Trump and Clinton both represent huge failings.
 
Renae said:
Yeah huh. 6 months ago all we heard was how we GOP would all be voting Bush, now it's Trump. Ain't happening. I still don't think he's going to get the nod.
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If he does, are you going to join the sheep or jump to a Third party along with the small percentage of voters who are able to think for themselves?
 
clownboy said:
Really? The 1960s and 70s called and want their slogans back. There's no button anymore, and the phones aren't red. Trump is the only one (besides Bernie) who hasn't taken a war stance. He's a negotiator, not a hawk.

Besides, you weren't going to vote republican regardless of who is the candidate. Can we just stop this nonsense from those who were never going to vote republican anyway pretending that's because Trump is in the race. It's not working for you any more than the metric ton of manufactured poutrage over what Trump says.
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Can we also stop the garbage from people who are going to vote Republican no matter what?
 
rocket88 said:
Can we also stop the garbage from people who are going to vote Republican no matter what?
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clownboy's political leanings are "other" and mine are libertarian. I would have no qualms about voting Trump if the Dems nominate Hillary Clinton just like I would have no qualms voting for Bernie Sanders if JEB! were to get the Rep nomination. All of this is dependent on who the Libertarians run.
 
rocket88 said:
If he does, are you going to join the sheep or jump to a Third party along with the small percentage of voters who are able to think for themselves?
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I sure as hell aint' voting for that Turd. I might vote Constitution Party. I dunno. I know I WILL NOT vote for Trump.
 
Renae said:
/shrug
I find your analysis is rather skewed, very skewed.
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You keep saying that, but you're not at all clear about what's getting skewed here.

1) Trump's poll numbers are not negatively affected by the terrible things he says.
2) Polls on this forum show conservatives lining up behind Trump, happily or not.

What's the problem here?
 
Cardinal said:
You keep saying that, but I'm not sure what's getting skewed here.

1) Trump's poll numbers are not negatively affected by the terrible things he says.
2) Polls on this forum show conservatives lining up behind Trump, happily or not.

What's the problem here?
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Because Poll numbers matter on Election day sooo much.
 
Renae said:
Because Poll numbers matter on Election day sooo much.
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That's a non sequitur. Whatever the margin of error, poll numbers don't go off in opposite directions from the election results.

But you said that my analysis is skewed. So what am I skewing?
 
reinoe said:
Hillary Clinton is unworthy of being commander in chief and never saw a military engagement she didn't like. Nothing she has said re: the use of force has been even remotely reasonable. If anyone needs to be kept away from our military it's her (and a couple fo GOP'ers but they don't have a shot.)
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the likely choices on both sides are the worst i've seen. Trump is the worst, IMO. he lacks the temperament for the office. Clinton is a hawk who has been nominated without a single vote being cast. i'll most likely vote for Sanders in the primary after he drops out.
 
Renae said:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/242952-republicans-your-current-favorite.html

41 votes, 9 for Trump.

9.

Shall I go on?
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Yup, that's the poll I'm referring to. Yes, most of those nine were horrified by the idea of a Trump presidency but have clearly resigned themselves with the possibility that that's who they'll have to go with. It's a year out from the election, and I see the writing on the wall: that nine is going to keep going up like a slow but steady trickle. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if come September you'll end up on that list when the possibility of a Clinton presidency really sinks in, as it clearly already has for those nine DP members.
 
clownboy said:
Really? The 1960s and 70s called and want their slogans back. There's no button anymore, and the phones aren't red. Trump is the only one (besides Bernie) who hasn't taken a war stance. He's a negotiator, not a hawk.
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his strategy is to "bomb the **** out of them," as i understand it.

clownboy said:
Besides, you weren't going to vote republican regardless of who is the candidate. Can we just stop this nonsense from those who were never going to vote republican anyway pretending that's because Trump is in the race. It's not working for you any more than the metric ton of manufactured poutrage over what Trump says.
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i'm not a Republican anymore, but it's not because of Trump. i haven't been a Republican since Bush pushed through the "patriot" act.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The more whoppers this blowhard demagogue tells, the more popular he becomes with his base.
And the Republicans really think he's a conservative and will actually help the party? Holy crap! How deluded can they get?
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Some commentators think Trump will be the end of having a conservative party. Whether intentionally or accidentally, Trump is a stalking horse for the Hildebeast.
 
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