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Russia Airstrikes 'May Amount To War Crimes'

starcitizen said:
I don't have access but Sean Naylor whose book is being cited did on what basis do you think he's lying?
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You lie to get a mention from the establishment media. You get interviews and air time, new opportunities open up if you repeat a state department line.
 
PakPuk said:
That is just another bias opinion piece, can we have the evidence instead of opinions and accusations.
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You don't even know what an opinion piece is, here's another article on the same subject:

Mohammed Al-Saud is under no illusions. “In 2011, the majority of the current ISIS leadership was released from jail by Bashar Al Assad,” he said. “No one in the regime has ever admitted this, or explained why.” Al-Saud, a Syrian dissident with the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, left Syria under threat of arrest in 2011.

Others were not so lucky. In 2006, Syrian Tarek Alghorani was sentenced to seven years in jail for the contents of his blog. Since his amnesty in 2011, he has been an active opponent of the Damascus regime. “There were around 1,500 people in there,” he recalls, outside a sleepy midtown café in Tunis. “There were about ten of us bloggers, around one hundred Kurds and the rest were just normal people. I’d say that, when they went in, around 90 percent were simply normal Muslims.”

http://www.newsweek.com/how-syrias-assad-helped-forge-isis-255631

I guess all these journalist just happen to be making up the same story out of whole cloth and only Assad is telling the truth.
 
starcitizen said:
Once again the jihaists declared this war, launched the first strikes in this war, and killed the overwhelming majority of those over a million people who died as a result of this war they started. Furthermore ISIS was decimated in Iraq their resurgence is a direct result of our premature withdrawal from Iraq.
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They "declared" it and we fought it poorly. So poorly, in fact, that we've helped the jihadists out.
 
starcitizen said:
No Assad helped the Jihadists out.
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And we're not even calling for his removal anymore, just letting the Russians do as they like. Just another step on our Infinity War. Our intervention has only made things worse.
 
Luftwaffe said:
You mean like Putin did to Turkey when it shot down the Russian jet without a care in the world?

For such a strong man, he seemed to cower down at the thought of even touching a NATO nation, even after it committed an ACT OF WAR.

Stop looking up to that man.
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Unless you're denying that Russia's plane was in Turkish air space, how was that an act of war?
 
Montecresto said:
Unless you're denying that Russia's plane was in Turkish air space, how was that an act of war?
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If I remember correctly, Russia denied the plane going into Turkish airspace. In their eyes, that should have been an act of war. My eyes don't mean ****, and you should know that.
 
Luftwaffe said:
If I remember correctly, Russia denied the plane going into Turkish airspace. In their eyes, that should have been an act of war. My eyes don't mean ****, and you should know that.
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Even if the Russian aircraft wasn't in Turkish airspace, not all "acts of war" generate war.
 
Montecresto said:
Even if the Russian aircraft wasn't in Turkish airspace, not all "acts of war" generate war.
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Oh I know. It just amazes me that conservatives idolize Putin as a strongman even though Turkey clearly showed that he is just as, if not more cautious, than Obama.
 
Luftwaffe said:
Oh I know. It just amazes me that conservatives idolize Putin as a strongman even though Turkey clearly showed that he is just as, if not more cautious, than Obama.
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Putin has Russian strategic and national security interests at stake in Syria. He has no desire in taking war to a NATO country over this. You might note however that Putin climbed in Turkeys ass, and that they've been behaving ever sense.
 
Montecresto said:
Putin has Russian strategic and national security interests at stake in Syria. He has no desire in taking war to a NATO country over this. You might note however that Putin climbed in Turkeys ass, and that they've been behaving ever sense.
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The only good Russian soldier is a dead Russian soldier.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Tactics of apathy and terror and barbarism....

I'm not sure apathy is accurate. Fatigue, perhaps. The American public has seen its government kill so many innocent civilians, for so many years now, that we are simply worn out and conditioned to accept it as business as usual.
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I think the fatigue comes from a press that spent almost all its energy smashing Bush43... oddly (not) they've done almost nothing to address Obama's incompetence in matters related to terrorism... and now, because of Obama's incompetence... we realize we have to do it all over again and for a long, long time.

That's what happens when you have The Little Fairy from Disney running the country.

As far as dead civilians... that happens in war... especially when the terrorists intermingle with them. It might be good for these people to learn, and learn fast that being among terrorists will get you killed... so either take them on, leave, or take the risk of living with bad neighbors.
 
zimmer said:
I think the fatigue comes from a press that spent almost all its energy smashing Bush43... oddly (not) they've done almost nothing to address Obama's incompetence in matters related to terrorism... and now, because of Obama's incompetence... we realize we have to do it all over again and for a long, long time.

That's what happens when you have The Little Fairy from Disney running the country.

As far as dead civilians... that happens in war... especially when the terrorists intermingle with them. It might be good for these people to learn, and learn fast that being among terrorists will get you killed... so either take them on, leave, or take the risk of living with bad neighbors.
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I don't know of a single friend or acquaintance of mine who has died from a terrorist attack. Not one.

I do have many friends and acquaintances who have died from motorcycle accidents, parachute failures, boating accidents and drowning, bacterial infections, fires and other things.

So, it's hard for me to get all worried about some terrorist action. I look behind trees and around corners all the time, and have never once seen a terrorist. Well, except when I turn on the TV and see some speech from the White House. ;)
 
Thoreau72 said:
I don't know of a single friend or acquaintance of mine who has died from a terrorist attack. Not one.
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Oh well then I guess the global jihadist movement doesn't exist, touché.
 
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