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7-year-old girl dies after being shot outside Taylor Sportsplex; mother hospitalized

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And the gun blows up one day!if you have one it will blow up soon or later!who is responsible for this crime ? only the shooter ?



''The shooting happened in the parking lot about 8 p.m. at the Taylor Sportsplex on Telegraph Road just after the girl finished soccer practice.

Police believe the 57-year-old shooter, identified as Timothy Nelson Obeshaw, shot himself after attacking his victims. He was pronounced dead at the scene. A 9-mm handgun was found near him.

Sclabassi said after practice Obeshaw parked his vehicle and walked over to Sharon's vehicle where he approached them with a gun drawn.

"He fired gunshots into Watson's vehicle. He struck the child first and then opened fire on the mother," the chief said. "And then turned and shot and killed himself."



Chief: Evidence shows shooter believed someone was using mind control on him

Sclabassi said her department still does not have a motive for this shooting, but Obeshaw was showing signs of mental illness before the shooting.

"However, our investigation revealed after talking to witnesses and family members that apparently Mr. Obeshaw had been experiencing mental instability over the past year or so. We found evidence that Obeshaw believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control ... he thought someone was out to get him."






7-year-old girl dies after being shot outside Taylor Sportsplex; mother hospitalized | News - Home
 
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Maybe it really is a false flag operation?

On the other hand, it probably is rally mental illness.

That still doesn't mean i will support the firearm grabbers baseless claims.

However, it is a heck of a coincidence that this event happened just as this bold new thang of mental illness.

Some things just gotta ake you wonder.
 
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Maybe it really is a false flag operation? On the other hand, it probably is rally mental illness. That still doesn't mean i will support the firearm grabbers baseless claims. However, it is a heck of a coincidence that this event happened just as this bold new thang of mental illness. Some things just gotta ake you wonder.

Ah yes, the 'gun' grabbers are somehow forcing people to murder and then commit suicide... :roll:

So why is saying those who exhibit mental instability should not own firearms so wrong? How is that a 'baseless' claim?

This isn't sudden, this happens all the time. Just doesn't always make the news or get drug into here.... :peace
 
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And the gun blows up one day!if you have one it will blow up soon or later!who is responsible for this crime ? only the shooter ?

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:confused:

No, guns don't typically explode, Medusa.

And yes, the shooter is responsible.

Unless he really was being telepathically controlled. Which I doubt.
 
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:confused:

No, guns don't typically explode, Medusa.

And yes, the shooter is responsible.

Unless he really was being telepathically controlled. Which I doubt.



My guess is that we'll never know for sure.
 
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Heartbreaking story. I think we need to bring back the old asylums because the current mental health system clearly isn't working.
 
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Heartbreaking story. I think we need to bring back the old asylums because the current mental health system clearly isn't working.

It really does amaze me that almost everyone is in a state of denial about the mental health dimension to these mass killing sprees. There are those who only see gun availability as the driving issue, and those who refuse to see any issue at all, especially if it means either amending gun ownership regulations relating to mental competence, or if it means greater public investment in and reorganisation of mental health services.

Meanwhile :shrug:
 
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It really does amaze me that almost everyone is in a state of denial about the mental health dimension to these mass killing sprees. There are those who only see gun availability as the driving issue, and those who refuse to see any issue at all, especially if it means either amending gun ownership regulations relating to mental competence, or if it means greater public investment in and reorganisation of mental health services.

Meanwhile :shrug:

I had a friend, a vibrant, active and beautiful older woman in her mid eighty's whose schizophrenic grandson desperately needed help. He was so out of it that his parents had him put in jail for a few days because there was no place else for him to go or get help. When he got out his grandma took him in and he murdered her the next day. He didn't just murder her...he gutted her with a kitchen knife. It just makes me sick that there's no place for the mentally ill to go or get help. Families all over the country are desperate for help and no one seems to know or care. Apparently, Nancy Lanza tried to get her son committed and the only mental institution that would take him was clear across the country in Seattle.

I think it was under Reagan that most of the mental institutions all over the country were defunded and shut down because psychiatrists thought that people with acute mental illness could now be controlled with antipsychotic drugs and wouldn't need to be institutionalized. So now, when the schizoids really need more help than just a pill...there's no place for them to go....except jail.
 
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And the gun blows up one day!if you have one it will blow up soon or later!who is responsible for this crime ? only the shooter ?



''The shooting happened in the parking lot about 8 p.m. at the Taylor Sportsplex on Telegraph Road just after the girl finished soccer practice.

Police believe the 57-year-old shooter, identified as Timothy Nelson Obeshaw, shot himself after attacking his victims. He was pronounced dead at the scene. A 9-mm handgun was found near him.

Sclabassi said after practice Obeshaw parked his vehicle and walked over to Sharon's vehicle where he approached them with a gun drawn.

"He fired gunshots into Watson's vehicle. He struck the child first and then opened fire on the mother," the chief said. "And then turned and shot and killed himself."



Chief: Evidence shows shooter believed someone was using mind control on him

Sclabassi said her department still does not have a motive for this shooting, but Obeshaw was showing signs of mental illness before the shooting.

"However, our investigation revealed after talking to witnesses and family members that apparently Mr. Obeshaw had been experiencing mental instability over the past year or so. We found evidence that Obeshaw believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control ... he thought someone was out to get him."






7-year-old girl dies after being shot outside Taylor Sportsplex; mother hospitalized | News - Home

It's Obama's fault!
 
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It's Obama's fault!

hahaha:mrgreen:
 
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And the gun blows up one day!if you have one it will blow up soon or later!who is responsible for this crime ? only the shooter ?

''The shooting happened in the parking lot about 8 p.m. at the Taylor Sportsplex on Telegraph Road just after the girl finished soccer practice.

Police believe the 57-year-old shooter, identified as Timothy Nelson Obeshaw, shot himself after attacking his victims. He was pronounced dead at the scene. A 9-mm handgun was found near him.

Sclabassi said after practice Obeshaw parked his vehicle and walked over to Sharon's vehicle where he approached them with a gun drawn.

"He fired gunshots into Watson's vehicle. He struck the child first and then opened fire on the mother," the chief said. "And then turned and shot and killed himself."

Chief: Evidence shows shooter believed someone was using mind control on him

Sclabassi said her department still does not have a motive for this shooting, but Obeshaw was showing signs of mental illness before the shooting.

"However, our investigation revealed after talking to witnesses and family members that apparently Mr. Obeshaw had been experiencing mental instability over the past year or so. We found evidence that Obeshaw believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control ... he thought someone was out to get him."

7-year-old girl dies after being shot outside Taylor Sportsplex; mother hospitalized | News - Home

We have to have a clear-cut mechanism to remove the guns of those people who manifest as mentally ill.
 
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Sad tragedy. My condolences to the relatives of the victims.

Although Im an atheist I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for that scumbag shooter.
 
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Ah yes, the 'gun' grabbers are somehow forcing people to murder and then commit suicide... :roll:

So why is saying those who exhibit mental instability should not own firearms so wrong? How is that a 'baseless' claim?

This isn't sudden, this happens all the time. Just doesn't always make the news or get drug into here.... :peace

Then again...

Navy Yard Shooter Thought He Was Under Government Mind Control | TIME.com
 
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We have to have a clear-cut mechanism to remove the guns of those people who manifest as mentally ill.

By the time their mental illness manifests itself it's often too late.
 
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By the time their mental illness manifests itself it's often too late.

That's not a reason to not have a clear mechanism to remove them. Reminds me of the starfish on the beach story.
 
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That's not a reason to not have a clear mechanism to remove them. Reminds me of the starfish on the beach story.

No, it's a reason to have a screening system before people are allowed to buy weapons.
 
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No, it's a reason to have a screening system before people are allowed to buy weapons.

We should have a screening system before AND after. Don't be silly.
 
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And the gun blows up one day!if you have one it will blow up soon or later!who is responsible for this crime ? only the shooter ?



''The shooting happened in the parking lot about 8 p.m. at the Taylor Sportsplex on Telegraph Road just after the girl finished soccer practice.

Police believe the 57-year-old shooter, identified as Timothy Nelson Obeshaw, shot himself after attacking his victims. He was pronounced dead at the scene. A 9-mm handgun was found near him.

Sclabassi said after practice Obeshaw parked his vehicle and walked over to Sharon's vehicle where he approached them with a gun drawn.

"He fired gunshots into Watson's vehicle. He struck the child first and then opened fire on the mother," the chief said. "And then turned and shot and killed himself."



Chief: Evidence shows shooter believed someone was using mind control on him

Sclabassi said her department still does not have a motive for this shooting, but Obeshaw was showing signs of mental illness before the shooting.

"However, our investigation revealed after talking to witnesses and family members that apparently Mr. Obeshaw had been experiencing mental instability over the past year or so. We found evidence that Obeshaw believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control ... he thought someone was out to get him."






7-year-old girl dies after being shot outside Taylor Sportsplex; mother hospitalized | News - Home

Medusa it's too bad that the woman was not armed to protect herself from the insane male.

All women should be armed everywhere. There is no excuse for a woman not being armed.

Too bad the girl died.

It was partly the fault of the child's mother who could not protect her in a very evil and crime ridden world with insane wacko's walking around everywhere too.
 
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No, it's a reason to have a screening system before people are allowed to buy weapons.

Screening would be fine in the slave colony named Spain but not in the USA.

There needs to be One Nation with true freedom to protect democracy for the world.

Spain has always been a slave colony and never free.
 
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Medusa it's too bad that the woman was not armed to protect herself from the insane male.

All women should be armed everywhere. There is no excuse for a woman not being armed.

Too bad the girl died.

It was partly the fault of the child's mother who could not protect her in a very evil and crime ridden world with insane wacko's walking around everywhere too.
the woman was living in SYRIA ?LETS BE logical

maybe you are being sarcastic
 
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Sad tragedy. My condolences to the relatives of the victims.

Although Im an atheist I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for that scumbag shooter.

POS as an atheist you must be consistent that everything goes PFFT in a flash when you die.

You do not get to embrace Catholic doctrine as an atheist.

:D
 
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Everywhere. Everywhere on Earth.

no we are not making a hollywood film.
 
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no we are not making a hollywood film.

If ISIS/ISIL penetrates into Turkey you will ALL need guns to defend yourselves.

You are Sunni.

They are Shiia.

They hate you.
 
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If ISIS/ISIL penetrates into Turkey you will ALL need guns to defend yourselves.

You are Sunni.

They are Shiia.

They hate you.

I dont believe in sects ,I just believe in Qoran as a muslim. and they are sunni ,not shia.and what happened to ' everywhere on earth'.if they attack I defend myself.but not everybody needs to do it
 
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