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Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, CA****[W:19:137]****

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The ridiculousness of that should be obvious, but I'll point it out anyway, those are accidents, these shootings are intentional!

Those people with the right to own one also have hurdles, such as having to pass a test to show they are competent to be permitted to use the car they own in public, they are regulated registered and licensed to do so.
 
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Watching San Bernardino channel 8 right now. No fatalities reported yet, but around 20 wounded. Condition unknown at this time. There may be additional victims inside the building.

Seems like a pretty high survival rate. Of course, this story is still unfolding, so...
 
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Does it really matter these days? ;)

Tim-

Well, I was countering your comment with one like it. I have stopped now. Neither of us should have posted what we posted. For my part, I apologize to the forum for making mine.
 
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Damn I have family in that area. I'm so sick of this ****.
 
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Has there ever been 3 disgruntled workers shooting up someplace?

Doesn't sound plausible. This seems like pure terrorism of some sort.
 
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This is still an "active" situation insofar as any of us know. I hope people posting will provide links when they update with more info, and although I know this is a forlorn hope, I also hope there won't be the "traditional" rush to judgment.
 
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Has there ever been 3 disgruntled workers shooting up someplace?

So, three white guys in camo shooting up a center for patients with developmental disabilities. Can't wait to find out what this is all about.
 
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my thoughts and prayers go out to victims and families

and i will again wait for the police to see if they can figure out the why's

sadness
 
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No logic just emotion? Usual tactics by the loony left.

I think a look at other nations and their crime situation is rational.
 
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So, three white guys in camo shooting up a center for patients with developmental disabilities. Can't wait to find out what this is all about.

One report says 2 guys in ski masks + bulletproof vests, another says 3 white guys in cammo.
 
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So, three white guys in camo shooting up a center for patients with developmental disabilities. Can't wait to find out what this is all about.

other than a LOT of sick people in the world

good damn question.....
 
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3 " White guys " actually = Middle Eastern men.

Any bets ?
 
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I used to be very much for gun control but over the years I have done almost a complete 180. Most of it doesn't have anything to do with the second amendment to me. It has more to do with the left's policies. Liberal judges let criminal after criminal after criminal go so they can just commit more crimes and compile lengthy rap sheets, like a resume. Dangerous people who are a proven threat to society are not locked up but instead we wait for them to commit murder and then we lock them up, if they haven't killed themselves already. People who have murdered before and sentenced to 15 years we just let go back out into society, even when they say they are just going to kill again, because they have paid their debt to society. Sometimes we even let them out early. The left wants to pass gun control legislation that is a bandaid only, designed to make them feel safer but that is not the reality. If we passed every single bit of gun control legislation that could realistically pass congress it would not stop most of this from happening. The bad guys would still get guns one way or another. Maybe if we effectively went door to door and confiscated every single gun out there we could stop much of the violence but, let's get real, that ain't gonna happen. I started turning around my thinking after 9/11 when I realized what that second amendment was actually about, defending not only ourselves but our country too. The fact that just about everyone has guns discourages terrorists from even thinking they can take over our country, even just small pieces of it, such as ISIS is doing in several countries right now.
 
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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, CA****W:20]****

3 " White guys " actually = Middle Eastern men.

Any bets ?

SBPD said 1~3 shooters, so who knows at this point.
 
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3 " White guys " actually = Middle Eastern men.

Any bets ?

Could be Islamic extremists, could be Christian extremists, could even be a partridge in a pear tree. We don't know yet.
 
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Media reports at this juncture are notoriously sketchy

Tim-
 
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Media reports at this juncture are notoriously sketchy

Tim-

At this point, all we know is that it was 3 men dressed in full military gear.
 
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CNN now:

Witnesses told cops there were 3 shooters they saw 3 leaving scene with rifles and took off in a black SUV.

Cops are checking package in south of the building.
 
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Liberal judges let criminal after criminal after criminal go so they can just commit more crimes and lengthy rap sheets. Dangerous people who are a proven threat to society are not locked up but instead we wait for them to commit murder and then we lock them up, if they haven't killed themselves already.

The United States has about 5% of the world's population and yet has about 25% of the world's prison population. Setting aside the moral argument about whether we can or should send someone to jail for life/death because of a single event in that person's life, there is a large amount of evidence to suggest that prisons are not the solution.
 
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Could be Islamic extremists, could be Christian extremists, could even be a partridge in a pear tree. We don't know yet.

If America's gun violence has gotten so bad that birds are shooting at us, I'm ****in out.
 
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It's the definition of a soft target that's NOT a PP clinic attacked by well armed men in Military garb and possibly bullet proof vest.

I'm leaning towards Jihadists.
 
Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, CA

I used to be very much for gun control but over the years I have done almost a complete 180. Most of it doesn't have anything to do with the second amendment to me. It has more to do with the left's policies. Liberal judges let criminal after criminal after criminal go so they can just commit more crimes and compile lengthy rap sheets, like a resume. Dangerous people who are a proven threat to society are not locked up but instead we wait for them to commit murder and then we lock them up, if they haven't killed themselves already. People who have murdered before and sentenced to 15 years we just let go back out into society, even when they say they are just going to kill again, because they have paid their debt to society. Sometimes we even let them out early. The left wants to pass gun control legislation that is a bandaid only, designed to make them feel safer but that is not the reality. If we passed every single bit of gun control legislation that could realistically pass congress it would not stop most of this from happening. The bad guys would still get guns one way or another. Maybe if we effectively went door to door and confiscated every single gun out there we could stop much of the violence but, let's get real, that ain't gonna happen. I started turning around my thinking after 9/11 when I realized what that second amendment was actually about, defending not only ourselves but our country to. The fact that just about everyone has guns discourages terrorists from even thinking they can take over our country, even just small pieces of it, such as ISIS is doing in several countries right now.

Fun fact, nations with more "liberal" justice systems have lower rates of recidivism but let's not allow facts to stop a perfectly good rant.
 
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CNN now:

Witnesses told cops there were 3 shooters they saw 3 leaving scene with rifles and took off in a black SUV.

Cops are checking package in south of the building.

If the suspects have fled by vehicle, then **** is really about to hit the fan.
 
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Don't you think it is a bit premature to jump to conclusions? Why not wait and see instead of the sky is falling routine?
It's the definition of a soft target that's NOT a PP clinic attacked by well armed men in Military garb and possibly bullet proof vest.

I'm leaning towards Jihadists.
 
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