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Ted Cruz agrees with claims that Planned Parenthood shooter is transgender

DifferentDrummr said:
Twisting back on themselves as usual, conservative blogs are also blaming "liberals" for the attack.

Weren't liberals supposed to be pro-choice??? :confused:

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I don't know if the title of this thread breaks any laws, but it seems clear that it breaks the DP rules for the Breaking News forum which requires that the title of the thread be the exact same as the title of the breaking news article it's linked to.

Here's the link title - Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?

See the difference in the actual title and your title?

That's perhaps why posters are claiming it's a lie.
 
JANFU said:
just brought up a fact an actual event that occurred to me. I have no dog in this fight.
And we Canadians are ever so grateful that Ted renounced his Canadian Citizenship.
Now the goal is for the Bieb to apply for US citizenship, and do the same when he receives US Citizenship.
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LOL! I forgot the Bieb was Canadian.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I don't know if the title of this thread breaks any laws, but it seems clear that it breaks the DP rules for the Breaking News forum which requires that the title of the thread be the exact same as the title of the breaking news article it's linked to.

Here's the link title - Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?

See the difference in the actual title and your title?

That's perhaps why posters are claiming it's a lie.
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Seems like nitpicking, unless there is unedited video contradicting various sources' descriptions.


When a reporter reminded the Texas senator that the suspect allegedly made a comment about “baby parts” while being arrested, Cruz countered, “It’s also been reported that he was registered as an independent and a woman and transgendered leftist activist, if that’s what he is.”

Dear’s voter registration, where he is listed as a woman, was uncovered by the Gateway Pundit, a self-described "right-of-center news website."

“We know that he was a man who was registered to vote as a woman,” Cruz said. “The media promptly wants to blame him on the pro-life moment when at this point there is very little evidence to suggest that.”

Ted Cruz Calls Alleged Planned Parenthood Shooter '''Transgendered Leftist Activist'''






DifferentDrummr said:
Why would a conservative politician even care about the shooter's gender?
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I'd say:

1. For whatever reason it is that they tend to be so keenly obsessed with citizens' various genders and sexual orientations;

2. Because it is a reflexive way to try to turn everything around in order to attack "the Left", even if it isn't a particularly logical attack. Republicans spent months lying about PP; specifically, lies that baby parts were being harvested and sold for a profit in some nefarious scheme, when in fact PP was merely recouping the expense of delivery resulting from biological waste handling procedures. The shooter reportedly remarked "no more baby parts" being arrestee. That might cast some poor light on the dishonest attacks on PP and those making them.

Bringing up an unsubstantiated claim as to the shooter being a transgendered leftist activist is a wrongheaded way of trying to deflect any blame that might be placed on the lying Republicans over to "the Left." How is that supposed to work in Cruz's mind? Well, transgendered persons and toleration of them appear to be linked to "the Left" in some Republicans' minds. (The former less sensible, the latter more so). So if it was a "transgendered leftist activist" as Cruz claims, the lazier/more dishonest portions of the base can blame "the Left" instead of thinking about whether the right's dishonest claims about PP might have had something to do with it.

Whether or not he was transgendered shouldn't have anything to do with it. But alas, logic is sparse when it comes to casting blame in political theatre.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Twisting back on themselves as usual, conservative blogs are also blaming "liberals" for the attack.

Weren't liberals supposed to be pro-choice??? :confused:

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You sure had to twist to get there. The title of this thread is so misleading and doesn't even reflect the information that is contained in the article. You edited the title to be different than the article. You might want to read the guidelines for the "Breaking News" forum.

• Static link to an article from a bona-fide news organization.
• Dateline within the past 48 hours.
• Exact same title as the cited article.
• Quoted short excerpts from the article.
• Your own unique content to spur discussion.
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Title of the article linked:
Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?
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Title of the thread:
Ted Cruz agrees with claims that Planned Parenthood shooter is transgender
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Fail at trolling.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
Fail at trolling.
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He's "trolling" ?!?

"Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?" is barely different from "Ted Cruz agrees with claims that Planned Parenthood shooter is transgender"

The only substantive difference is that the former says "leftist activist" whereas the latter only refers to transgendered status. The rest is simply a difference of word choice to say exactly the same thing. I know the forum has some very strict rules about copying the title of an article verbatim, but is it really something for a poster to get mad about? What's the difference?
 
American said:
Well someone's got to pay for the new Lambro.

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I heard they are going to step it up a little with the new Buggati.

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CanadaJohn said:
I don't know if the title of this thread breaks any laws, but it seems clear that it breaks the DP rules for the Breaking News forum which requires that the title of the thread be the exact same as the title of the breaking news article it's linked to.
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If a mod chooses to change the title to "Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?" that's fine with me.

Still not a lie, of course, but you already knew that.
 
cpwill said:
Reading Comprehension wasn't your strongest score on the ole SAT, eh?
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Can you translate that from Cruz to English for me? Because I read that three times and I'm baffled what point he thinks he's making.
 
WCH said:
Can I Sell an Organ? - FindLaw
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Well since you have no evidence of that happening, that law wasn't broken. And before you mention the false, edited video...

1)No charges filed against PP
2)A heavily motivated congressional committee chaired by pro-life politicians never brought it up in their investigation.
 
Cardinal said:
Well since you have no evidence of that happening, that law wasn't broken. And before you mention the false, edited video...

1)No charges filed against PP
2)A heavily motivated congressional committee chaired by pro-life politicians never brought it up in their investigation.
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LINK?

If the shooter actually said those words, that would be all the Left would need to blame the Right.
 
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WCH said:
LINK?

If the shooter actually said those words, that would be all the Left would need to blame the Right.
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That would be all we'd need to link the shooter to a pro-choice motive.

And if you think PP is guilty of selling fetal tissue, by all means link to the charges brought by law enforcement against them, or conclusions by the congressional committee that any such sales took place. In fact, link to quotes by committee members grilling Planned Parenthood employees on the sale of fetal tissue.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
If a mod chooses to change the title to "Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?" that's fine with me.

Still not a lie, of course, but you already knew that.
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Factually, it is a lie and at the very least an unintended attempt to mislead. There's a huge difference between "citing" a rumour and "agreeing" with a rumour, but you already knew that.
 
Cardinal said:
Can you translate that from Cruz to English for me? Because I read that three times and I'm baffled what point he thinks he's making.
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Pardon me for intruding on your discussion, and I'm certainly no apologist for Cruz, but it seems clear to me that he was saying that the comment about "baby parts" was reported as coming from an unnamed source and so it's not been verified at this point as being truthful - in effect, still a rumour - such as the report about Dear being transgender. Basically, Cruz was equating the two "reports" as just rumour at this point and neither can be credited as accurate until those who actually know announce it officially.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Factually, it is a lie and at the very least an unintended attempt to mislead. There's a huge difference between "citing" a rumour and "agreeing" with a rumour, but you already knew that.
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You know better than to say that something is "factually a lie," when a lie, by definition, requires an intent to deceive.

And if someone, as a politician speaking publicly, cites a rumor without disagreeing with it, isn't there an implication that he does agree? As you well know, conservatives pols and their campaign managers are extremely fond of that particular smear tactic.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Pardon me for intruding on your discussion, and I'm certainly no apologist for Cruz, but it seems clear to me that he was saying that the comment about "baby parts" was reported as coming from an unnamed source and so it's not been verified at this point as being truthful - in effect, still a rumour - such as the report about Dear being transgender. Basically, Cruz was equating the two "reports" as just rumour at this point and neither can be credited as accurate until those who actually know announce it officially.
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The phrase was according to a police officer.
 
Cardinal said:
Can you translate that from Cruz to English for me? Because I read that three times and I'm baffled what point he thinks he's making.
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"The guy is crazy. But even if it turns out that he's also crazy in a lefty kinda way, it wouldn't be right to blame The Left. The Shooter is the problem because he's the murderer."
 
CanadaJohn said:
Pardon me for intruding on your discussion, and I'm certainly no apologist for Cruz, but it seems clear to me that he was saying that the comment about "baby parts" was reported as coming from an unnamed source and so it's not been verified at this point as being truthful - in effect, still a rumour - such as the report about Dear being transgender. Basically, Cruz was equating the two "reports" as just rumour at this point and neither can be credited as accurate until those who actually know announce it officially.
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That's exactly right as after he made the statements he said it was important not to jump to conclusions.

Heck CJ, even the report about the "no more baby parts" allegedly said by Dear was reported as coming from cops requesting anonymity because they have been ordered not to talk about the case. So how valid does it make a claim if it is coming from cops who are defying orders while speaking to a reporter? Did it even happen?
 
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