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France bombs ISIS Stronghold in Raqqa. [W:186]

Alyssa T. said:
Gee, thanks. That was nice of you. Maybe I'll get around to checking it all out someday. We'll see. The point in the conversation was already made, and this is just dragging it out.

That's okay. We all have bad days.
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I've noticed many times how leftists tend to self-censor. Facts tend to interfere too much with their beliefs.
 
Grant said:
I've noticed many times how leftists tend to self-censor. Facts tend to interfere too much with their beliefs.
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You know what, I have noticed just how often those on the right do that, and their aversion to facts, too. Funny, isn't it? Like linking to ridiculous websites when asked to back a claim. Just saw that in another thread, actually.
 
Alyssa T. said:
You know what, I have noticed just how often those on the right do that, and their aversion to facts, too. Funny, isn't it? Like linking to ridiculous websites when asked to back a claim. Just saw that in another thread, actually.
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Why not put it to the test and post some facts non-leftists might ignore? Your admission of not reading certain material is not at all unusual among leftists.
 
Grant said:
Here is more insane 'fear mongering' quotes from another Administration. Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes : snopes.com
I've seen 'that point' dozens of times. It is always intended to mislead.
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Lol what does that have to do with Cheney and Rumsfeld beating the war drums and taking a hint from the Nazis?

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
 
Grant said:
Why not put it to the test and post some facts non-leftists might ignore? Your admission of not reading certain material is not at all unusual among leftists.
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No, I wouldn't try to waste your time with something like what you posted in support of a false claim you made. Opinion pieces don't really bring a lot of value when supporting claims. I know plenty of those from the right who won't waste time reading anything from left wing sites. So it goes.
 
Montecresto said:
FRANCE HAS BEEN WARNED

The decision by France to conduct airstrikes on Syria’s oil infrastructure last Sunday and previous strikes on ISIS positions and a training camp in eastern Syria in late September contributed to the attacks on innocent Parisians on Friday.
The Islamic State has warned France not to participate in U.S.-led attacks against ISIS in Syria.
In February the group released a video featuring two French-speaking terrorists warning ISIS elements in the country awaited instructions for attacks. The nine minute video surfaced a month after the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
“Islamic State fighters are deployed everywhere and your nightmare begins now, along with the real war,” the Walla news site quoted the video as stating.

A radio and television professional who was at the Bataclan and survived reported “I clearly heard them say to the hostages, ‘It is [President Francois] Hollande’s fault, it is the fault of your president, he should not have intervened in Syria.’ They also spoke of Iraq.”
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So, if the cockroaches say it's Obama and Holland's fault, then it must be so.
 
Alyssa T. said:
No, I wouldn't try to waste your time with something like what you posted in support of a false claim you made. Opinion pieces don't really bring a lot of value when supporting claims. I know plenty of those from the right who won't waste time reading anything from left wing sites. So it goes.
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In fact I sent you quotes, not opinion pieces. Read and learn. Ignore and you'll continue to be stuck in the limbo you're in now..
 
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