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Judge amends order to take baby from lesbian couple

WCH said:
The Gay studies were ran with too little data to prove anything.
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Says the guy backing a study that straight up fabricated data.
 
Paleocon said:
It's the same provided a woman can't marry a woman either.
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No it's not.

Man can marry woman
Man can't marry man
Woman can marry man
Woman can't marry woman

None of these four statements are identical.
 
WCH said:
We had as many as we could afford at the time and we have three grandchildren to take up our spare time now. We both still work so, not a lot of that.

DD has no children and a smart mouth. Now he's taken to following me around the threads just to insult me. Got NO time for that crap.
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Hey, you are the one who is trying to stop others from adopting simply because you don't approve of their relationships, because your personal beliefs say that their relationships are wrong. Yet, I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't accept that as reasonable to deny some other group who others' beliefs say are wrong, such as interracial couples, interfaith couples, couples of >5 year age differences, couples where the woman is the head of the household, or various other couples that other people find wrong, living in sin, abnormal, or even living in debauchery according to their religion, their beliefs, but not yours.
 
Paleocon said:
It's the same provided a woman can't marry a woman either.
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That is not equality nor equal protection. I already gave a similar example. You can't say that just because both are similarly restricted that means they are treated equally by the law. That isn't how the laws work. It is stupid.
 
WCH said:
The Gay studies were ran with too little data to prove anything.
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And the Regenerus study proved absolutely nothing except for how biased some researchers could be when it comes to trying to prove something they want to be true. The study was crap. Most studies have some sort of errors that simply cannot be controlled for, but Regenerus had errors that could have easily been controlled for, but would not have allowed him to get the same results, so the results were fudged, the data presented in a way that allowed him to maintain his hypothesis despite the clear errors that would not have allowed that.
 
Peter King said:
Most likely yes, he studied law at Brigham Young University, the LSD (mormon) university.

In 1995, this judge was reprimanded after he slapped a 16 year old boy across the face for him being "belligerent and insulting".

He also sent a boy who was caught stealing gum, into juvenile detention when the young man had bad grades on his report card. He is also not averse to a good old eye for an eye mentality when he ordered a girl who cut the hair of a toddler (which was a weird and twisted thing to do, but they only cut if up to the jawline), by saying he would cut the punishment for this 13 year old, which he put at 30 days in detention, restitution to her victim and 276 hours of community service, if the hair of the girl was cut right there in the court room and the mother of the "victim" was allowed to say that it should be cut even shorter.
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Good Lord! That judge has a screw loose. It doesn't say much for the system that he can keep his job.
 
WCH said:
We had as many as we could afford at the time and we have three grandchildren to take up our spare time now. We both still work so, not a lot of that.

DD has no children and a smart mouth. Now he's taken to following me around the threads just to insult me. Got NO time for that crap.
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Completely wrong. Where do you think you know me to say that I have no children? I have two adopted sons who are 10 and 11 (adopted at ages 5 and 6). That's two more adopted children than you....and two less in the foster care system. Some of us choose to be part of the solution...not just sit on the sidelines and complain.
 
WCH said:
You don't think I've seen how a homosexual couple has wrecked the lives of children I know?
To Hell with your name calling.
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With a hetrosexual divorce rate around 50%, they have ruined more lives than same sex couples simply by the sheer size of the numbers.

Your minuscule personal experience pales in comparison.
 
Deuce said:
No it's not.

Man can marry woman
Man can't marry man
Woman can marry man
Woman can't marry woman

None of these four statements are identical.
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Which gender is being treated better?
 
Paleocon said:
Which gender is being treated better?
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White can marry white
White can't marry black
Black can marry black
Black can't marry white


Which race was being treated better?



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WCH said:
This research suggest the having Gay parents is suboptimal.

How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study
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roguenuke said:
A study that has been thoroughly debunked as completely lacking in scientific method and completely ignoring major issues in the research, such as the fact that only two of those studied under the "GF/LM" identity were actually raised in a house their whole life with two people of the same sex, and they were not separated from the rest. Plus, there was one in that group to claimed to have been arrested as a one year old (still counted), and another who was impossible to actually exist. It was ridiculous. He controlled for variables like time together and relationship with heterosexuals, but didn't do that with anyone who said their parent was lesbian or gay. The people weren't even all raised by that parent, many weren't and had little to no contact with that parent. You cannot do that in social science research without having your research completely discredited by the field. Regenerus had an agenda and he only accomplished it with those like you, and likely the judge, who believed the crap research he did.
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The obvious agenda here is the one where ONE study that conforms to his beliefs is chosen over ALL the other studies that say differently. ALL the studies that disagree are 'biased.' Yeah, critical thinking at its best.

Deuce said:
Says the guy backing a study that calls children "raised by a same-sex couple" when at no point in their life did they ever live in a household with two parents of the same gender. That's your idea of unbiased?
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:doh
 
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WCH said:
I am an advocate for that child's welfare. Giving it over to people who practice a deviant lifestyle [for the sake of political correctness] is not beneficial.
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There is nothing negative or harmful at all about being gay or being a gay couple.

The ONLY thing negative about it is how society treats them. And the consequences they...and their kids...suffer because of it.
 
Heinrich said:
Of course it should not but it clearly does.
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Thank you for your response, Heinrich. Reluctantly, I must agree with your statement. It's difficult to keep from injecting one's own biases, and yet, to be a reasonably effective judge, one must do entirely that.
 
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