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'Jihadi John' targeted by U.S. airstrike in Syria

99percenter said:
Sorry 9-11 happened 9 months after Bush took office. You don't get to blame Clinton for Bush's failures. Even republican Donald Trump recognizes Bush was to blame for 9-11.
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And who was in office when the hijackers entered the USA and finished their training?

CLUE: It wasn't Bush
 
99percenter said:
more evidence bush was aware about 9-11 2 months before.
Two months before 9/11, the Bush administration was told “the attacks will be spectacular” - Quartz
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Yep...

"Attacks"

And?

What is the ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE?

ETA - The conspiracy forum is filled with posts claiming Bush should have known about the attacks, but no one can ever point out the actionable intelligence and what he should/could do under the circumstances.

You are cordially invited to be the first to forward a competent plan.
 
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Andalublue said:
I see. So the West is the innocent victim of unprovoked Islamic aggression. It's never meddled in Middle Eastern politics and never done anything remotely reprehensible to explain any degree of hostility from anyone in the ME region. Got it.

Thanks for that.
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No of course you're right the secular liberal democracies of the West who allow Muslims into their nations by the tens of millions are to blame and the theocratic and totalitarian regimes of the ME which have been perpetrating ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide and actual genocide against all non-Muslims for centuries are in the right. How about this, go to any Muslim majority country on the planet and try to proselytize any religion other than Islam to Muslims and then tell me who the aggressors really are in this scenario.
 
Risky Thicket said:
It's good that Emwazi is gone, if he is. He was a sick bastard, no devout Muslim.
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No he followed the example of Mohammad to the letter.

Jihad seems to have provided Emwazi a way to practice his penchant for brutal murder. Apparently he really enjoyed committing murder and reveled in the admiration he received from semi-literate religious extremists. I've read where ISIS considered him a useful idiot. He served a purpose. If you wanted to recruit people dumb enough to become walking bombs Emwazi was your poster boy. If you wanted to commit spectacular headline grabbing atrocities, if you wanted to get top billing on America's blood thirsty, fear mongering, networks Emwazi was your star. He was the perfect dupe for the maniacal leaders of ISIS.

All extremist religions attract crazy people. There are more Emwazis who can't wait to step up. There always are in every perverted version of every religion.

The one sure fire way to stop religious serial killers from murdering westerners in the Middle East and north Africa is for westerners to get out and stay out. We don't need to be there. We shouldn't be there.
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Do we get to kick all Muslims out of the West? They shouldn't be here.
 
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Heinrich said:
On the contrary; if the report is correct they now have another martyr and 50 lining-up to replace him. It is better to arrest criminals and bring them to trial rather than extrajudicial executions which I understand is the American way nowadays.
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I'm for carpet bombing all areas with these terrorists. Non-stop, until nothing moves. If some innocent civilians get caught up in it. Sorry. Bad luck.
 
Fledermaus said:
No, the "gop" did no such thing.

You are wrong.
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NO but the GOP Buffoon in Chief sure did ignore every warning about them. He even told his adviser's he did not want to hear Bin Ladens name and that the warnings were a trick to keep him from invading Iraq.
 
Fledermaus said:
Yep...

"Attacks"

And?

What is the ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE?

ETA - The conspiracy forum is filled with posts claiming Bush should have known about the attacks, but no one can ever point out the actionable intelligence and what he should/could do under the circumstances.

You are cordially invited to be the first to forward a competent plan.
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There is NEVER any "actionable intelligence" unless the CIC decides to take action and Bush just threw the warning in the trash. There is no way to PROVE that Bush could have stopped the attacks only that he did not even try. Why would the CIA even give a warning if there was NOTHING that could be done? Think about that....
 
iguanaman said:
There is NEVER any "actionable intelligence" unless the CIC decides to take action and Bush just threw the warning in the trash. There is no way to PROVE that Bush could have stopped the attacks only that he did not even try. Why would the CIA even give a warning if there was NOTHING that could be done? Think about that....
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TRANSLATION: Can't produce actionable intelligence...

Don't feel bad. No one else has.
 
iguanaman said:
NO but the GOP Buffoon in Chief sure did ignore every warning about them. He even told his adviser's he did not want to hear Bin Ladens name and that the warnings were a trick to keep him from invading Iraq.
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TRANSLATION: The GOP did not allow the 9/11 hijackers to enter or train in the USA.

Given what was KNOWN, what would you have done?

The hijackers were laying low at this point and other than the random expired Visa, what laws had they broken?
 
Fledermaus said:
TRANSLATION: The GOP did not allow the 9/11 hijackers to enter or train in the USA.

Given what was KNOWN, what would you have done?

The hijackers were laying low at this point and other than the random expired Visa, what laws had they broken?
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The FBI caught a hijacker training to fly 2 weeks before 9/11. The ohter hijackers were also on a watch list and that could have been given to the airlines. I know that I would not have been cutting brush at the ranch instead of protecting the American people. GW Bush dropped the ball and his brother will do the same if he get elected. Mark my words.
 
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starcitizen said:
No of course you're right the secular liberal democracies of the West who allow Muslims into their nations by the tens of millions are to blame and the theocratic and totalitarian regimes of the ME which have been perpetrating ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide and actual genocide against all non-Muslims for centuries are in the right. How about this, go to any Muslim majority country on the planet and try to proselytize any religion other than Islam to Muslims and then tell me who the aggressors really are in this scenario.
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Maybe things are very different where you are, but I've never been proselytized to become a Muslim anywhere. Not in Europe, not in Muslim-majority countries.

Unlike your sort, no one making the kind of points Risky and I'll have been making see things in black and white terms. No exoneration of nihilistic faux-religious zealots, no free pass for neo-imperialist, neo-cons. There's blame, carnage and destruction enough to go around.
 
zimmer said:
I'm for carpet bombing all areas with these terrorists. Non-stop, until nothing moves. If some innocent civilians get caught up in it. Sorry. Bad luck.
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Only sociopaths propose killing innocent children and civilians.
 
Heinrich said:
On the contrary; if the report is correct they now have another martyr and 50 lining-up to replace him.
It is better to arrest criminals and bring them to trial
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rather than extrajudicial executions which I understand is the American way nowadays.
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How would you arrest monsters like this and bring them to trial?

:lol:

It's easy to run your mouth, actually getting out there and doing something is just a little bit harder.

Get back with us when you get the job done.
 
shrubnose said:
How would you arrest monsters like this and bring them to trial?

:lol:

It's easy to run your mouth, actually getting out there and doing something is just a little bit harder.

Get back with us when you get the job done.
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Stop the rudeness with a phrase like "run your mouth" and expect a reply.
 
Heinrich said:
Stop the rudeness with a phrase like "run your mouth" and expect a reply.
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Yeah, stop it Shrubnose. Don't you know that was a trigger phrase of micro aggression and Heinrich might not have a safe room to run to??

Can someone tell me where to find the sarcasm thingy??
 
Andalublue said:
Maybe things are very different where you are, but I've never been proselytized to become a Muslim anywhere. Not in Europe, not in Muslim-majority countries.
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And if you were, the Muslim wouldn't be murdered and/or arrested for issuing Dawa however prostelytizing any religion other than Islam in a Muslim majority nation that is exactly what will happen.

Unlike your sort, no one making the kind of points Risky and I'll have been making see things in black and white terms. No exoneration of nihilistic faux-religious zealots, no free pass for neo-imperialist, neo-cons. There's blame, carnage and destruction enough to go around.
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You are a supporter of a misogynistic, homophobic, totalitarian, anti-Semitic, and violent ideology and the people who hold this ideology and a proponent of importing adherents of said ideology into the West by the millions. The blood of the 158 killed in Paris last night is on your hands and all SJW's just like you.
 
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iguanaman said:
The FBI caught a hijacker training to fly 2 weeks before 9/11. The ohter hijackers were also on a watch list and that could have been given to the airlines. I know that I would not have been cutting brush at the ranch instead of protecting the American people. GW Bush dropped the ball and his brother will do the same if he get elected. Mark my words.
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Mossaui?

Not one of the 911 hijackers.

Nor did they obtain warrant for the laptop which MAY have helped.

And the watch list?

Why did it not stop them from flying DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION
 
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iguanaman said:
The FBI caught a hijacker training to fly 2 weeks before 9/11. The ohter hijackers were also on a watch list and that could have been given to the airlines. I know that I would not have been cutting brush at the ranch instead of protecting the American people. GW Bush dropped the ball and his brother will do the same if he get elected. Mark my words.
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Of course, he dropped the ball. It is a proven fact that republicans are soft on terror. Now imagine if a terrorist attack were 3000 americans died happened on Obama's watch. The republicans would be calling for his impeachment. Obama unlike Bush kills terrorists before they attack. He killed 30 of Al Qaedas top leaders including the big one bin laden. Bush on the other hand let terrorists attack us and was fixated on creating faulty intelligence to get us into iraq. It is amazing this monumental failure of a president called Bush has even one loyalist.
 
Fledermaus said:
And who was in office when the hijackers entered the USA and finished their training?

CLUE: It wasn't Bush
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Evidence that 9-11 was going to happened did not surface until Bush took office. And clinton was busy being impeached for blowjobs by the republicans. Bush on the other hand had a mandate (or so he said even though the other guy got more votes) to do anything he wanted. He could have used this "mandate" to take down the terrorists. Instead he failed and 9-11 happened. 9-11 was bush failure. Like I said don't blame his predecessor for things 9 months into his presidency. I know you wouldn't allow obama the same treatement.
 
99percenter said:
Evidence that 9-11 was going to happened did not surface until Bush took office. And clinton was busy being impeached for blowjobs by the republicans. Bush on the other hand had a mandate (or so he said even though the other guy got more votes) to do anything he wanted. He could have used this "mandate" to take down the terrorists. Instead he failed and 9-11 happened. 9-11 was bush failure. Like I said don't blame his predecessor for things 9 months into his presidency. I know you wouldn't allow obama the same treatement.
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Your opinion is noted...

What warnings did the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION give Bush? Oh, that's right. You do know there were warnings, right? Why didn't the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION act on those?

The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that allowed the hijackers in.

The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that allowed the hijackers to train.

The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that allowed the hijackers fly around the USA.

I don't blame the The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION for the attacks.... Quit the contrary. There is little to nothing that could have been done under the circumstances.

But to lay blame on Bush is simply ignorant and partisan.
 
Fledermaus said:
Your opinion is noted...

What warnings did the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION give Bush? Oh, that's right. You do know there were warnings, right? Why didn't the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION act on those?

The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that allowed the hijackers in.

The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that allowed the hijackers to train.

The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that allowed the hijackers fly around the USA.

I don't blame the The CLINTON ADMINISTRATION for the attacks.... Quit the contrary. There is little to nothing that could have been done under the circumstances.

But to lay blame on Bush is simply ignorant and partisan.
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It clear isn't partisan because republicans like Donald Trump are objectively looking at bush's presidency and laying the blame where it lies. And its odd that republicans don't blame bush for 3000 americans dying in US soil but blame obama for 4 dying in North africa. Hypocrisy at its worst.
 
99percenter said:
It clear isn't partisan because republicans like Donald Trump are objectively looking at bush's presidency and laying the blame where it lies. And its odd that republicans don't blame bush for 3000 americans dying in US soil but blame obama for 4 dying in North africa. Hypocrisy at its worst.
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Don't give a.fig what.the.Donald says.

Your partisan hackery is noted.
 
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