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Ben Carson: Names of some childhood victims are 'fictitious' [W:89]

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jmotivator said:
I have no problem with how Obama retold his personal story. I have a problem with CNN's treatment of two candidates life stories.
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Nice fail, jmotivator. :)
 
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le bouffon said:
Nice fail, jmotivator. :)
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If there is a fail there it is that he didn't make the argument simple enough for you to understand it.
 
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le bouffon said:
Nice fail, jmotivator. :)
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Is requesting equal treatment a deflection?
 
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Fletch said:
If there is a fail there it is that he didn't make the argument simple enough for you to understand it.
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There was no argument, but mere bickering.
 
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rcart76 said:
I take him at his word. Why would a black republican presidential candidate make up a story about stabbing someone? Doesn't make political sense.
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It would if you were an evangelical.

The whole 'born again' thing is a pretty strong theme for them. Its a dog whistle you cant hear.
 
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GunFora said:
Why would he lie about something like that?
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Isn't it strange to see the left and the left wing media demand that Carson provide proof that he used to be a violent teenager?

"We think you are LYING!! YOU WERE ALWAYS A CALM, COLLECTED PERSON!"
 
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jmotivator said:
Isn't it strange to see the left and the left wing media demand that Carson provide proof that he used to be a violent teenager?

"We think you are LYING!! YOU WERE ALWAYS A CALM, COLLECTED PERSON!"
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When they have nothing...they have nothing to lose.
 
Re: Ben Carson: Names of some childhood victims are 'fictitious'

jmotivator said:
Isn't it strange to see the left and the left wing media demand that Carson provide proof that he used to be a violent teenager?

"We think you are LYING!! YOU WERE ALWAYS A CALM, COLLECTED PERSON!"
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Hilarious bickering. Also, judging by Carson's past statements, any scrutiny is warranted.
 
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Maybe these fictitious victims can meet up with the President's composite girlfriends.
 
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jmotivator said:
I have no problem with how Obama retold his personal story. I have a problem with CNN's treatment of two candidates life stories.
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Obama has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, to claim you were not diverting is absolutely bat crazy.
 
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GunFora said:
Why would he lie about something like that?
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About the knife incident? I think we've been through this; that lovely, neat, biblical parable of failure and redemption. I'm not saying he is lying - that CNN clip was certainly no smoking gun as far as I'm concerned, but motive for doing so he has in abundance.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Obama has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, to claim you were not diverting is absolutely bat crazy.
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When discussing the importance of an accusation by a media outlet against a presidential candidate it is entirely on topic to address how that media outlet treated other candidates. Bias is ALWAYS on topic when discussing media accusations.
 
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Andalublue said:
About the knife incident? I think we've been through this; that lovely, neat, biblical parable of failure and redemption. I'm not saying he is lying - that CNN clip was certainly no smoking gun as far as I'm concerned, but motive for doing so he has in abundance.
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Such as? What possible motive could anyone have for admitting something like that from their youth? How would that help him?
 
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jmotivator said:
When discussing the importance of an accusation by a media outlet against a presidential candidate it is entirely on topic to address how that media outlet treated other candidates. Bias is ALWAYS on topic when discussing media accusations.
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Deflection. Yawn.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
Maybe these fictitious victims can meet up with the President's composite girlfriends.
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And have children that would resemble Obama's imagined son.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Obama has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, to claim you were not diverting is absolutely bat crazy.
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Everyone knows Obama wasn't vetted by the media, because it was heavily discussed during the campaign. Looking into whether Carson had a violent childhood or not, isn't even comparable to the hands-off our first black presidential candidate treatment that Obama got. Only Fox questioned anything. And you didn't see me supporting the whole birth certificate notion.
 
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American said:
Everyone knows Obama wasn't vetted by the media, because it was heavily discussed during the campaign.
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Discussed by whom?
 
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Deuce said:
Uhh, sounds reasonable to keep victims anonymous given the circumstances...?
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It's a reasonable explanation, but people close to Carson had no idea this incident took place prior to the book/movie.
 
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Whether he stabbed someone or not seems pretty irrelevant. I agree with some others that to his audience this kind of thing will play very well, as it is a story of redemption or however you'd describe the life story of violent kid who makes good. It might exaggerate the transformation - the worse he was as a kid, the harder the road, the further he traveled, and therefore the more impressive it is what he accomplished. But I'm OK even if he just got in ordinary fights, and he exaggerated a bit about the stabbing, so long as the general theme is accurate enough. No one is harmed, and if some kid with a bad past is inspired to try to overcome it and live a productive life, that's a good thing.

But the bottom line is he's IMO disqualified himself for POTUS many times with his recent statements on a number of things, including the pyramid nonsense. But this isn't anything more than a curiosity to me.

FWIW, the "it's a double standard!! OBAMA!!" stuff is pretty funny. Goodness, you'd have to be asleep to not have noticed how the 'media' not thoroughly examined his his books but outright fabricated stuff about Obama's early life and still does. The reason his fictional girlfriend might not have got any attention is because we had YEARS, including by idiot Trump, of speculation that he was a foreign born, illegitimate son of one of at least two possible commies who is a secret Muslim (or black liberation christian radical, or both perhaps) programmed from an early age by a network of communists to overthrow all that's good in the world. So a dust up about how Obama portrayed his girlfriend is sort of beside the point. We'll worry about double standards when allegations surface that Carson was a drug dealing, pimp, gang member, and murderer whose baby daddy was the founder of the crips, and then a legitimate point will be "no one ever accused Obama of murder!"
 
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American said:
Everyone knows Obama wasn't vetted by the media, because it was heavily discussed during the campaign. Looking into whether Carson had a violent childhood or not, isn't even comparable to the hands-off our first black presidential candidate treatment that Obama got. Only Fox questioned anything. And you didn't see me supporting the whole birth certificate notion.
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"everyone knows'.

LOL.

I love how a guy can write a memoir a decade before becoming nationally prominent and somehow, people think that his past is a mystery.
 
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GunFora said:
Such as? What possible motive could anyone have for admitting something like that from their youth? How would that help him?
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Don't you read the posts you respond to? Let me repeat: "that lovely, neat, biblical parable of failure and redemption." Presidential candidates are creating narratives to sell them to the electorate, to get people to like them. The biblical, prodigal son-style fable of knife-wielding, out-of-control, troubled teen finding God and becoming a surgeon is a great story to tell your more God-fearing potential voters - if it's true.

Anyone else reminded of the word, 'swiftboating'?
 
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Andalublue said:
Don't you read the posts you respond to? Let me repeat: "that lovely, neat, biblical parable of failure and redemption." Presidential candidates are creating narratives to sell them to the electorate, to get people to like them. The biblical, prodigal son-style fable of knife-wielding, out-of-control, troubled teen finding God and becoming a surgeon is a great story to tell your more God-fearing potential voters - if it's true.

Anyone else reminded of the word, 'swiftboating'?
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Yeah...at work so I skimmed over that. I'm not sure how that would really help him.
 
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