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Hurricane Patricia becomes strongest hurricane ever recorded

danarhea said:
Your statement is not true at all. According to a study published in Scientific American, there is a strong correlation between climate change, and el nino, hence a strong correlation between climate change and weather events.

You can read about it here. Don't worry, it's not political, and was not published by a think tank or talking head. It was published by......

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Scientists.
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it 100% is true climate change is not global warming.
they are totally opposite things.

one is an actual event climate change.

one is a theory based on a run away green house affect.
 
ludin said:
let just hope that it spins itself over land and doesn't make it into the gulf.
if it spins into the gulf it could reform and hit the US.

the people that live there are going to need a lot of prayer for the recovery.
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Let's not engage in wishcasting
 
rhinefire said:
Texas will get mucho rain Sat. Sun. Anxious to see how well the Mexican government responds to its citizens after this.
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Let them all know that Obama can give them refugee status now.
 
This amazing...

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danarhea said:
Your statement is not true at all. According to a study published in Scientific American, there is a strong correlation between climate change, and el nino, hence a strong correlation between climate change and weather events.

You can read about it here. Don't worry, it's not political, and was not published by a think tank or talking head. It was published by......

Wait for it......

Scientists.
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This is your definitive proof? A suggestion?

From your source:

Now a new study, which builds on prior efforts to reconstruct El Niño's past behavior by examining coral growth, suggests that El Niño and La Niña events have become more variable and intense over the past several decades.

But researchers will need to do more work -- including a concerted effort to fill gaps in the record of El Niño's past behavior -- to prove that connection, for now a tentative one, she said.
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gdgyva said:
Mexico is about to get blasted

Mexico's Pacific coast is in the crosshairs of Hurricane Patricia, which became the most powerful tropical cyclone ever measured in the Western Hemisphere on Friday morning as its maximum sustained winds reached an unprecedented 200 mph (320 kph).

The hurricane is forecast to make landfall in the Mexican state of Jalisco Friday evening as a catastrophic Category 5 hurricane capable of causing widespread destruction. Residents and authorities in Mexico are rushing to prepare for what will likely be the strongest hurricane to ever make landfall on that country's Pacific coastline.

At 4 a.m. CDT, the eye of Hurricane Patricia was about 160 miles (255 kilometers) south-southwest of Manzanillo, Mexico, and was moving north-northwest at 12 mph (19 kph).

In addition to its unprecedented 200-mph (320-kph) sustained winds, Hurricane Patricia now holds the record for lowest pressure in any hurricane on record. With a minimum central pressure of 880 millibars (25.99 inches of mercury) at the 4 a.m. CDT advisory, Patricia broke the record of 882 millibars set by Wilma almost exactly 10 years ago.

Hurricane Patricia becomes strongest hurricane ever recorded; Catastrophic landfall expected in Mexico Friday - AOL


this is Katrina's big bad sister, and she look mighty angry

batten down the hatches, and have the rowboats ready
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Meh, texas is already getting flooded out just from the very edge of it, and is expected to be full force rain until sunday. For mexico, i think they are screwed. We had a tropical storm earlier this year strengthen over landfall in a once in a lifetime brown water effect, but that and it's flooding to texas and neighboring states sounds pale to what mexico is gonna get.

worse much of mexico is desert, which means its sand which does not absorb water like soil, which means they will likely have mass flash flooding in desert regions in the path of it.
 
Renae said:
El Nino has a lot to play into that. I hope that makes a more northerly drift over Mexico and really drenches San Antonio.
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El nino has alot to play everywhere with everything. Last el nino i remember we has massive storms flash floods and a whole lot of tornadoes, which were not frequent in the cali desert, except one every few years, but el nino brought multiple in one year. If it can turn a dry desert into a flooded tornado alley for a year, i can only imagine what it would do to everywhere else.
 
Soho gator said:
Let's not engage in wishcasting
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you are free to do whatever you want to do.
you can't tell other people what to do.

if you haven't learned that by now I feel sorry for you.
 
OrphanSlug said:
This amazing...

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looks like it slowed down a good bit they had it over 200mpg.
and the barometric pressure has gone way up from where it was at.

still a dangerous storm. I will say that her coming onto land did most of that.
those people are in trouble.
 
Soho gator said:
Feel horrible for them. This is the beginning of a massive El Niño event and the U.S. will be hit hard. Global warming is behind this.
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If so then the USA is among the largest contributors to the anthropogenic global climate change. Seems like a bad deal that the USA pollutes but Mexico gets to be punished. If this remains constant the USA can increase its pollution massively until the majority of Mexico is in ruins from hurricanes such as these.
 
danarhea said:
Your statement is not true at all. According to a study published in Scientific American, there is a strong correlation between climate change, and el nino, hence a strong correlation between climate change and weather events.

You can read about it here. Don't worry, it's not political, and was not published by a think tank or talking head. It was published by......

Wait for it......

Scientists.
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If you listen to Scientific American, stubbing you toe when getting out of bed was caused by global warming. They publish articles almost weekly with wild claims on global warming, climate change, climate disruption, or whatever the current description happens to be.
 
Gill said:
If you listen to Scientific American, stubbing you toe when getting out of bed was caused by global warming. They publish articles almost weekly with wild claims on global warming, climate change, climate disruption, or whatever the current description happens to be.
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You not agreeing with the conclusions of a publication, particularly a science based publication, is not proof that the publication is wrong. Merely offering your opinion, particularly in the manner you have done here ("I don't agree") is not an appropriate debate rebuttal and really adds nothing to the conversation. You are trying to address someone the presented evidence to his assertion. Do you have evidence to your assertion or do we award the advantage in this discussion to Danarhea?
 
rhinefire said:
Texas will get mucho rain Sat. Sun. Anxious to see how well the Mexican government responds to its citizens after this.
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Generally the government doesn't do anything for the people.

It is mostly volunteer organizations that handle the clean up and out reach.
 
upsideguy said:
You not agreeing with the conclusions of a publication, particularly a science based publication, is not proof that the publication is wrong. Merely offering your opinion, particularly in the manner you have done here ("I don't agree") is not an appropriate debate rebuttal and really adds nothing to the conversation. You are trying to address someone the presented evidence to his assertion. Do you have evidence to your assertion or do we award the advantage in this discussion to Danarhea?
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My point was simple, but obviously not simple enough for some. Scientific American posts an article almost weekly proclaiming every possible calamity and weather event to be due to global warming. They obviously have a political agenda, which should be obvious to all.

Just because an article is printed in a "scientific" publication does not make it correct. There are dozens of matters more pressing than worrying about a degree rise in temperature over a hundred years.
 
upsideguy said:
You not agreeing with the conclusions of a publication, particularly a science based publication, is not proof that the publication is wrong.
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Ah, for the good old days when that was true.
 
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