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HERO supporters release first ad, counter bathroom claim

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HERO supporters release first ad, counter bathroom claim - Houston Chronicle

Opponents, who have seized on the law's perceived public safety threat, were quick to dismiss supporters' ad Friday.

Campaign spokesman Jared Woodfill said the message should offer little comfort to residents.

"All the deception and misdirection in the world will never change the fact that this ordinance will allow men to enter women's restrooms," Woodfill said.
Kevin Nix, who coordinates media for the Houston Unites campaign, said in a written statement that the "ad is about setting the record straight on what the equal rights ordinance is."

"It's about our core values of treating others the way we want to be treated," Nix said. "It's about ending employment and housing discrimination in Houston, given that more than half of the claims when the ordinance was on the books were due to racial discrimination. We will continue setting the record straight, too, because opponents are badly misleading and deceiving voters."
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Houston, under transgender/lesbian mayor Annise Parker, passed an ordinance in 2014 that allowed anyone to walk into and use a men's or women's bathroom based on which gender they "felt" like. The ordinance has since been suspended and put up for a vote in November.

Would you ever allow your 15-year-old daughter to walk into a public bathroom alone again?

How would you feel if a transgendered person walked into the bathroom while you were in there?
 
Erod said:
HERO supporters release first ad, counter bathroom claim - Houston Chronicle



Houston, under transgender/lesbian mayor Annise Parker, passed an ordinance in 2014 that allowed anyone to walk into and use a men's or women's bathroom based on which gender they "felt" like. The ordinance has since been suspended and put up for a vote in November.

Would you ever allow your 15-year-old daughter to walk into a public bathroom alone again?

How would you feel if a transgendered person walked into the bathroom while you were in there?
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I think I'm pretty moderate, tolerant, and sympathetic to various minorities, including gays. But it is so clear to me that this is wrong wrong wrong.

Bathrooms are not really male-female. They are innie-outie. It doesn't matter what someone feels like or identifies as, so much as whether they have an innie or an outie.

Public bathrooms are sometimes the scene of rapes and molestations of women and girls. Add to that the fact that any man can demand the right to enter, only adds more danger. Consider that some of the females will be young girls.

I see this as both a safety issue and a right to privacy. I have a right not to have a stranger with an outie standing around me while I adjust my underwear, use the bathroom, discuss female problems with another female, or the like.

Rights of one person have to be weighed against the rights of others. I believe women and girls (innies) have the right to privacy, and the right to safety.

This is pushing things too far, IMO.
 
JumpinJack said:
I think I'm pretty moderate, tolerant, and sympathetic to various minorities, including gays. But it is so clear to me that this is wrong wrong wrong.

Bathrooms are not really male-female. They are innie-outie. It doesn't matter what someone feels like or identifies as, so much as whether they have an innie or an outie.
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Ya talking about belly buttons?
 
Erod said:
HERO supporters release first ad, counter bathroom claim - Houston Chronicle



Houston, under transgender/lesbian mayor Annise Parker, passed an ordinance in 2014 that allowed anyone to walk into and use a men's or women's bathroom based on which gender they "felt" like. The ordinance has since been suspended and put up for a vote in November.

Would you ever allow your 15-year-old daughter to walk into a public bathroom alone again?

How would you feel if a transgendered person walked into the bathroom while you were in there?
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Annise Parker is not transgender.
 
JumpinJack said:
I think I'm pretty moderate, tolerant, and sympathetic to various minorities, including gays. But it is so clear to me that this is wrong wrong wrong.

Bathrooms are not really male-female. They are innie-outie. It doesn't matter what someone feels like or identifies as, so much as whether they have an innie or an outie.

Public bathrooms are sometimes the scene of rapes and molestations of women and girls. Add to that the fact that any man can demand the right to enter, only adds more danger. Consider that some of the females will be young girls.

I see this as both a safety issue and a right to privacy. I have a right not to have a stranger with an outie standing around me while I adjust my underwear, use the bathroom, discuss female problems with another female, or the like.

Rights of one person have to be weighed against the rights of others. I believe women and girls (innies) have the right to privacy, and the right to safety.

This is pushing things too far, IMO.
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If I am not mistaken, women's toilets do not have urinals or a troff on a wall, but rather have stalls with doors. I would also think that in the "common area" where on washes hands etc. patrons are fully clothed. So what exactly is the real issue here? If a rapist wants to enter a women's toilet the sign and policy can hardly be a a serious deterrent. As for women going into a men's room, I really could care less.
 
prometeus said:
If I am not mistaken, women's toilets do not have urinals or a troff on a wall, but rather have stalls with doors. I would also think that in the "common area" where on washes hands etc. patrons are fully clothed. So what exactly is the real issue here? If a rapist wants to enter a women's toilet the sign and policy can hardly be a a serious deterrent. As for women going into a men's room, I really could care less.
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So your daughter is in the restroom, and a man just walks in there. You're completely fine with that, right?
 
prometeus said:
If I am not mistaken, women's toilets do not have urinals or a troff on a wall, but rather have stalls with doors. I would also think that in the "common area" where on washes hands etc. patrons are fully clothed. So what exactly is the real issue here? If a rapist wants to enter a women's toilet the sign and policy can hardly be a a serious deterrent. As for women going into a men's room, I really could care less.
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It is a safety issue. You are minimizing the risk only because you are a male and don't care about the safety of women.
 
Erod said:
So your daughter is in the restroom, and a man just walks in there. You're completely fine with that, right?
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To be fair and honest, just based on old fashioned principles I'd prefer that a man did not go in there, but other than that I am not worried. There are places that are more dangerous for girls and I am grateful that my "little" girl can take care of herself with probably 99% of would be attackers, male or female.
 
Anise Parker has been a disaster of a Mayor for Houston.

She's put off basic City services in favor of pushing her personal and radical agenda.

Anyone who lives in this City knows what I'm talking about.

She's a hack and a hypocrite and tried to deny the citizens of Houston their right to vote against this ridiculous ordinance.
 
Erod said:
Would you ever allow your 15-year-old daughter to walk into a public bathroom alone again?
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I kinda wouldn't have to, right?

I would just happen to "feel" like a woman when the kid needed to use the john so I'd escort her in.

The other women and girls who happened to be in there at the time would just have to deal.
 
Maybe it's time for a third class of washrooms ...
 
Erod said:
HERO supporters release first ad, counter bathroom claim - Houston Chronicle



Houston, under transgender/lesbian mayor Annise Parker, passed an ordinance in 2014 that allowed anyone to walk into and use a men's or women's bathroom based on which gender they "felt" like. The ordinance has since been suspended and put up for a vote in November.

Would you ever allow your 15-year-old daughter to walk into a public bathroom alone again?

How would you feel if a transgendered person walked into the bathroom while you were in there?
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Well at work the other day the women's room was closed for maintenance, and we just let women into the men's room for a time until the ladies was cleaned up.

So what's the problem?
 
Erod said:
HERO supporters release first ad, counter bathroom claim - Houston Chronicle



Houston, under transgender/lesbian mayor Annise Parker, passed an ordinance in 2014 that allowed anyone to walk into and use a men's or women's bathroom based on which gender they "felt" like. The ordinance has since been suspended and put up for a vote in November.

Would you ever allow your 15-year-old daughter to walk into a public bathroom alone again?

How would you feel if a transgendered person walked into the bathroom while you were in there?
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As an advocate of transgendered issues, I say this is wrong on many levels. It is one thing in a night club, bar or restaurant, but at a park, the beach?

No, the TG community is going to have to accept that not everything can be exactly how they want it.

I suspect if enough tourists boycott Houston, they'll get the message
 
JumpinJack said:
I think I'm pretty moderate, tolerant, and sympathetic to various minorities, including gays. But it is so clear to me that this is wrong wrong wrong.

Bathrooms are not really male-female. They are innie-outie. It doesn't matter what someone feels like or identifies as, so much as whether they have an innie or an outie.

Public bathrooms are sometimes the scene of rapes and molestations of women and girls. Add to that the fact that any man can demand the right to enter, only adds more danger. Consider that some of the females will be young girls.

I see this as both a safety issue and a right to privacy. I have a right not to have a stranger with an outie standing around me while I adjust my underwear, use the bathroom, discuss female problems with another female, or the like.

Rights of one person have to be weighed against the rights of others. I believe women and girls (innies) have the right to privacy, and the right to safety.

This is pushing things too far, IMO.
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Yup. Southern country folk can figure it out pretty easy:

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prometeus said:
It is not an issue of expertise. I deplore when people who do not know me make moronic statements about what I stand for or against.
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I guess we will fix this another way. Lets get to know each other, uncensored.
 
ToastyOats said:
Well at work the other day the women's room was closed for maintenance, and we just let women into the men's room for a time until the ladies was cleaned up.

So what's the problem?
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Not remotely the same thing.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I guess we will fix this another way. Lets get to know each other, uncensored.
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No thanks, you have not exhibited anything that is worth further pursuit, intelligent or rational. You may wallow in the mud by yourself, I think it suits you.
 
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