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Mass shooting in Oregon (estimated 10 dead)[W:25]

Luftwaffe said:
Yeah the OP is part of perhaps a BETS UPRISING or whatever the **** those 4chanasses are talking sbout. Typical 4chan retard. Unfortunately, as much good as the internet has done, it also allows insane people to communicate with each other.

Im willing to bet that 4chan is going to get shut down maybe. But it doesnt matter.

There is 8chan, masterchan, and more, take it from a youngling like myself, these bastards will constantly prop up new forums and there is little that can be done to stop them. Also, the OP was probably, as the meme goes, hiding behind 7 proxies. The tidal wave is a coming, prepare yourselves... This is honestly why im going to carry for my protection and the safety of others in case it happens around my neck of the woods. I also always encourage education and carrying to all. Its not a joke, there are nasty people out there, and you need to be protecting yourself.
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Never heard of 4Chan. I suppose I'm a little old for it.

Who post there ? Is it just College kids and psycho's ? And what are they refering to when they mentioned a " Beta uprising " ?

Who are the Betas, Chads and Stacies ?
 
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that stinks.

I wonder if the police were able to stop him before he killed himself. usually these guys go the way of murder suicide.
they don't want to get caught and do time or get the death penalty.

it being Oregon I wish the cops would have just killed him instead of arresting him.
Oregon still has the death penalty which is amazing.

he will get a needle in his arm.
still to good for the act that this guy just did though.

I feel sorry for the people that were killed and their families.
 
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jimbo said:
You neglected the biggy. Most of the shooters are or have been on some sort of prescription mind altering drug.
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Actually, that's not true. That's why I didn't list it. Some have, but not most.
 
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JUST in time....to take the heat and attention off the failures of the Panderer in chief over Syria and Russia. WHAT a coincidence <makes OH MY face>

Hasn't this happened EVERY SINGLE time the Prez is in a personal crisis (aka failure)?
 
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I have said time and again if people who are legally allowed to own guns were allowed to carry them concealed at all times then these horrible incidents would probably end or be drastically reduced in frequency.

You are probably not going to start a mass killing if you have no idea who is carrying and who is not.
 
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Lutherf said:
I saw some of those posts earlier (from another site) and if that's legit there are a whole passel of assholes on that site that need to be subjected to corrective actions. It's far more disturbing to me that these jackasses would cheer the psycho on than it is that the psycho posted his intent.
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Welcome to the new world.
 
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PerfectStorm said:
Through the first nine months of 2015 there have been 2,322 shooting victims in Chicago.....over 8 per DAY.
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I understand you are only saying this because Obama is from there, but what is the ****ing relevance to a nutter terrorist going crazy in Oregon or at any school across the US .. every single week?
 
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ludin said:
that stinks.

I wonder if the police were able to stop him before he killed himself. usually these guys go the way of murder suicide.
they don't want to get caught and do time or get the death penalty.

it being Oregon I wish the cops would have just killed him instead of arresting him.
Oregon still has the death penalty which is amazing.

he will get a needle in his arm.
still to good for the act that this guy just did though.

I feel sorry for the people that were killed and their families.
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The information coming out right now indicates that the shooter was killed in a shootout with police.
 
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Roadvirus said:
Obama will, if he hasn't already.
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Ditto.

Even worse, the ABC Reporter that I was listening too, was conjecturing what obama would do to curtail this gun violence and gun ownership. Damn liberal, eastcoast media, are total dickheads!
 
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DA60 said:
I have said time and again if people who are legally allowed to own guns were allowed to carry them concealed at all times then these horrible incidents would probably end or be drastically reduced in frequency.

You are probably not going to start a mass killing if you have no idea who is carrying and who is not.
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Based upon what?

You can predict what an insane person will do?
 
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Lutherf said:
The information coming out right now indicates that the shooter was killed in a shootout with police.
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That's correct. The responding officers located the perp, he shot at them, they returned fire and shot him dead!

Sheriff Hanlin just gave a briefing and the one lone male is dead and he could not yet say what type of weapon was used.
Another briefing will be held at 3pm PSTT

The State Police office is about 1/4 mile from the entrance to the campus and they were the immediate backup.


The incident happened at 10:38 am, about half way thru the classroom session. If the perp was in the class, I would think a handgun was used. If he just entered the classroom, a rifle may have been used.
 
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PeteEU said:
I understand you are only saying this because Obama is from there, but what is the ****ing relevance to a nutter terrorist going crazy in Oregon or at any school across the US .. every single week?
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I was responding to your post number 38 when you said this shooting was a weekly occurence but we don't hear about it. How many of the 16 shootings in Chicago from this past weekend did you hear about?
 
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Lutherf said:
The information coming out right now indicates that the shooter was killed in a shootout with police.
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I hate to hear that. The shooters seem to get the easy way out.

Can't imagine how violent and antisocial these shooters are. I can't imagine. It's probably a beautiful day there, cool weather. Maybe could pick up a pizza later, have ice cream tomorrow, watch a good movie tonight. So many good things to do. Why would someone focus on the evil destruction of others or himself? To think: no more ice cream, no more bubble baths or hot showers, no more pretty days or atmospheric rainy days, no more smelling flowers, no more playing with a dog, no more walking barefoot through the grass. All gone.
 
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JumpinJack said:
I hate to hear that. The shooters seem to get the easy way out.

Can't imagine how violent and antisocial these shooters are. I can't imagine. It's probably a beautiful day there, cool weather. Maybe could pick up a pizza later, have ice cream tomorrow, watch a good movie tonight. So many good things to do. Why would someone focus on the evil destruction of others or himself? To think: no more ice cream, no more bubble baths or hot showers, no more pretty days or atmospheric rainy days, no more smelling flowers, no more playing with a dog, no more walking barefoot through the grass. All gone.
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The people that do this kind of thing are inevitably so entirely wrapped up in themselves that they either do not recognize those things you mention or believe that other people are actively denying them those things.
 
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JumpinJack said:
Nothing can be done because there are such varying mental disorders, on a wide scale, much of which does not preclude one from owning guns. There is also no way to indicate which person with any particular mental disorder will do a mass shooting, or which person w/o a mental disorder will do a mass shooting.

Since we're predicting (always a dangerous thing), I will say that most of the past mass shooters have been:

1. Youngish white males
2. Were raised by a mother and a father
3. Have antisocial issues (you can bet good money on his not having been voted most popular in high school)
4. Got a gun at a youngish age
5. Became comfortable with violence and shooting (going to shooting ranges, playing violent video games where the player shoots and kills people, etc.)

But there was one guy (the military guy) who was an arab muslim, so he wasn't white. He was also older than most mass shooters, but still young. And one shooter whose parents divorced while he was pretty young, so he wasn't maybe raised by both, though he still saw his father. And one shooter (Dylan) who had gotten his first gun (as a gift) at the relatively late age of about 17 or so, not long before the shootings (although he'd been taken to shooting ranges, and may have been familiar with shooting from others' guns).
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Well as another poster stated...we got this one alive. Maybe we can at least start learning. We won't. But it would be nice. Male is most likely. Race not as much of a given. Same with guns and parents. All that is all over the board on past cases. The reason I said what I did about social media is that I attended a law enforcement conference on the stuff, given by the media officer from the newtown tragedy. He relayed that information very well. I also was in contact with the head of the law enforcement and student relations at Florida state (the conference was given at pat Thomas law enforcement academy which is near Florida state). Basically social media is often used by the shooters as an "outlet" and frequently they mention their plans before hand. About 65% of the time.

Anyway. I've made my calls. I will wait a while before reading the news though. They never have correct information at the incident time.
 
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NoLeftNoRight said:
JUST in time....to take the heat and attention off the failures of the Panderer in chief over Syria and Russia. WHAT a coincidence <makes OH MY face>

Hasn't this happened EVERY SINGLE time the Prez is in a personal crisis (aka failure)?
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Come on, people, I dislike Obama more than most, but he didn't hire a hit kid in Oregon to take the heat off the Putin deal.
 
Fenton said:
Never heard of 4Chan. I suppose I'm a little old for it.

Who post there ? Is it just College kids and psycho's ? And what are they refering to when they mentioned a " Beta uprising " ?

Who are the Betas, Chads and Stacies ?
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Beta refers to nerds, antisocials, etc. etc. (I too was wondering at first what the terminology was all about, One of the kids at school knew all the terminology, so he clued me in).

It is in contrast to "Alpha" which I'm sure you know.

The sick bastards in there were also talking about a "Beta uprising" and someone who claimed to live in Michigan was asking to be a part of it too. Putting two and two together, with the current definition of Beta, I can only conclude that it's a bunch of rejects in society who are fed up and want to commit random acts of violence. It's sickening.

As for 4chan itself, it's a forum, like debatepolitics. If you have ever heard of reddit, 4chan is the same thing. Unlike debatepolitics though, 4chan and sites like it espouse free speech in a way where moderators hardly moderate this forum.

You and I of course know that free speech doesn't cover threats and such, but because there is little to no moderation in these threads, it's hard to really enforce that, and many times, moderators become simply negligent or are sick bastards themselves who sympathize.

For more info and for experiencing what it's like yourself, there is of course, this...

4chan

The main page. Subjects vary from intellectual debates, to the dark **** that was just revealed here.
 
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SgtRock said:
When will we learn?
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Personally I don't think that matters. While What generally makes a place a target IS that it is a path of least resistance...what appears more predictable is that said place has less visible security. As in no high visibility law enforcement or security, easily accessed, and lots of people.

I believe we have a right to protect ourselves regardless, and that gun free zones equate to defense free, but I don't personally see them as being a factor to the shooter. But maybe we can ask this one...and then throw him in a hole with fire ants.
 
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MickeyW said:
Ditto.

Even worse, the ABC Reporter that I was listening too, was conjecturing what obama would do to curtail this gun violence and gun ownership. Damn liberal, eastcoast media, are total dickheads!
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One of the commentators on CNN was suggesting that "Gun Free Zones" weren't enough and that campus access needed to be controlled.

I don't know where these people get their ideas. I mean, the idea sounds kind of reasonable until you realize that we have people getting shanked in prisons where there is all kinds of control. To actually secure a college campus the size of the UofA down here and insure that no firearms could get in would require THOUSANDS of people, YEARS of construction and BILLIONS of dollars...and that's just for one campus with maybe 40k students.
 
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Lutherf said:
One of the commentators on CNN was suggesting that "Gun Free Zones" weren't enough and that campus access needed to be controlled.

I don't know where these people get their ideas. I mean, the idea sounds kind of reasonable until you realize that we have people getting shanked in prisons where there is all kinds of control. To actually secure a college campus the size of the UofA down here and insure that no firearms could get in would require THOUSANDS of people, YEARS of construction and BILLIONS of dollars...and that's just for one campus with maybe 40k students.
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They are Communists who do not believe in freedom and liberty. that's how they get their ideas.
 
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