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Petraeus accuses Putin of trying to re-establish Russian Empire

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Petraeus accuses Putin of rebuilding Russian Empire - CNNPolitics.com

Washington (CNN)One of America's top former generals compared the situation in Syria Tuesday to a historic nuclear disaster, implicitly criticizing the U.S. for allowing it to worsen, and accused Russia's President of trying to re-establish an empire.

Retired Gen. David Petraeus, testifying before the Senate Armed Service Committee, also recommended that the U.S. establish safe zones for Sunnis inside Syria and potentially put American boots on the grounds in Iraq to stop the spread of ISIS.

The former commanding general of U.S. forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan equated the situation in Syria today with one of the most deadly nuclear accidents in history.

"Russia's recent military escalation in Syria is a further reminder that when the U.S. does not take the initiative, others will fill the vacuum, often in ways that are harmful to our interest," Petraeus said.
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Obama's foreign policy is making it easy for Putin.


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Obama definitely kept his promise to Putin that he'd have more flexibility after the election. However, I doubt even Putin's wildest dreams equated 'more flexible' with 'do whatever you want, Russia, the US will not intervene'.
 
The US government has a terrible record of manipulating foreign governments, arming and training opposition groups, propping up brutal dictators, and when that fails we place troops on the ground. I really do not believe we have room to ridicule anyone.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Yea! Its that damn Obama's fault! If we had a republican or conservative this would never happen!***


****Except when it happened in Georgia in 2008 (under a Republican), where Russia invaded Georgia and occupies Abkhazia and South Ossetia in violation of the ceasefire and truce****
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When's the last time Russia went into Syria?
 
Well, he's not wrong.

We all should have known at some point Russia would go back to being, well, Russia.

Baralis said:
The US government has a terrible record of manipulating foreign governments, arming and training opposition groups, propping up brutal dictators, and when that fails we place troops on the ground. I really do not believe we have room to ridicule anyone.
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If anything that would make us experts in calling out such things.

Anyway, none of that changes anything, nice deflection though.
 
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It will be interesting to observe Russia's influence in Syria. Their refugees should be given a one way ticket to Moscow.
 
What he did not say is that whatever imperalist ambitions Putin may have are only stimulated by U.S. retreat and passivity. The same applies to China. An active, vigorous, well-considered foreign policy that bolstered our alliances around the world, combined with the sort of defense spending that we had under presidents like Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, and Reagan, would do wonders to encourage a more restrained Russia and China. The best way to create a more dangerous, more savage, more unstable world is to be weak-willed and indecisive. The right president can do a great deal to restore the nation's pride and confidence, as Reagan showed. But we have been stuck with a weak sister who does not much like this country for seven years, and our situation in the world reflects it.
 
American said:
So the current activity is routine in your opinion.
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Routine? No. But neither was their activity when the invaded and occupied South Osseita and Azbekea.. But its also important to note that Obama is arming groups who want to overthrow Russia's guy (Assad), is bombing his country, and has signed orders to directly target the Syrian Arab Army if a "new U.S.-backed fighting force in Syria if it is attacked by Syrian government forces or other groups" U.S. to Defend New Syria Force From Assad Regime - WSJ

I think your hackish argument is starting to fall apart.
 
Syria is one conflict where Russia is in the right, and the US is playing with fire.

Lets say all the US govt hopes for comes true, and we 'defeat ISIS and Assad', what then? If Assad's government falls there will be no Syria as the 'Free Syria Army', Al Qaeda, and so on would be the 'victors', and would kill off what remains of Syria's civil society and impose a Sharia-Law derived Islamist government.

That isn't 'freeing Syria' but just handing over Syria to a group of extreme Islamists AKA a Syrian style Taliban.

If Assad's government survives, there will still be a Syria left to democratize. It isn't an easy choice but in a contest between a secular but religious dictator and western-hating terrorists that want to impose an even more brutal Islamic theocracy, Assad is the better choice. Russia gets that.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Routine? No. But neither was their activity when the invaded and occupied South Osseita and Azbekea.. But its also important to note that Obama is arming groups who want to overthrow Russia's guy (Assad), is bombing his country, and has signed orders to directly target the Syrian Arab Army if a "new U.S.-backed fighting force in Syria if it is attacked by Syrian government forces or other groups" U.S. to Defend New Syria Force From Assad Regime - WSJ

I think your hackish argument is starting to fall apart.
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Obama is an idiot, and a foreign policy nightmare that happens on a daily basis.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1065068103 said:
It will be interesting to observe Russia's influence in Syria. Their refugees should be given a one way ticket to Moscow.
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Greetings, Mo. :2wave:

Russia already has their Muslim Chechens to deal with, and regularly they have to remind them that they need to behave themselves, or else - and it works - so maybe those Syrians that are fleeing to Europe will one day be able to return to their homeland and continue to fight with each other over religion like they are used to doing. From what I understand, it's the Iranian Caliphate renewal goal that is causing the unrest we currently see. Time will tell.
 
American said:
His anti-war ideology is conflicting with his CinC duties, and that's why Syria is the way it is.
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:doh Yea... So much so he increased the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Increased the use of drones. Has bombed more countries than Bush.... So many partisan talking points, so easy to debunk.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
:doh Yea... So much so he increased the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Increased the use of drones. Has bombed more countries than Bush.... So many partisan talking points, so easy to debunk.
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He has failed. He is a failure. bin Laden was the one good thing he accomplished, but certainly not on his own. Otherwise he's a loser. You've debunked nothing. The ME ****ed due to his ideology. ISIS is cutting off heads. Congrats.
 
American said:
He has failed. He is a failure. bin Laden was the one good thing he accomplished, but certainly not on his own. Otherwise he's a loser. You've debunked nothing. The ME ****ed due to his ideology. ISIS is cutting off heads. Congrats.
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It literally sounds like you just are repeating talking points from the GOP debate....
Al-Qaeda cut off heads under a republican president as well. But I can tell you are really deep in thought with great points such as "he's a loser". Keep it up! :applaud
 
Jeez...the Russian 'Empire' (outside of it's nukes) is a tiny fraction of it's Soviet heyday.

Germany, Great Britain and France combined spend TWICE as much on their military's as Russia does. America? over 9 times as much.

Defense Budget by Country

The Cold War is over forever...Russia is (outside of nukes - which they would never use) NO threat to American sovereignty whatsoever.

And so they want to keep some influence in the incredible mess that is Syria...so what? Let 'em try and make sense of that mess. They certainly could hardly make more of a pig's breakfast of the whole thing then America has.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
It literally sounds like you just are repeating talking points from the GOP debate....
Al-Qaeda cut off heads under a republican president as well. But I can tell you are really deep in thought with great points such as "he's a loser". Keep it up! :applaud
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Most of the head cutting we've seen is under your guy. Deal with it.
 
Oh look, Americans complaining something is being done against islamic rebels in Syria. How cute.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
It literally sounds like you just are repeating talking points from the GOP debate....
Al-Qaeda cut off heads under a republican president as well. But I can tell you are really deep in thought with great points such as "he's a loser". Keep it up! :applaud
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No, those are more like talking points from the Free Republic. Just psychotic Obamahate with little knowledge (or curiosity) of what led the world to this point. Is Obama blameless? Of course not. But the more intellectually shallow among us like to pretend that the ME was the Garden of Eden before Inauguration Day 2009, and have little interest in the decades-old policies that have shaped this mess.
 
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