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Petraeus prosecutor discusses Clinton Email Scandal

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Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, appointed by President George W. Bush, has weighed in on the Clinton Email Scandal by discussing the comparison between Mrs. Clinton and his own prosecution of General Petraeus for the crime of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

"As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."

Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton has committed no crime

I think we all know that this vote of confidence will not stop the political grandstanding (see Benghazi after 11 different investigations), but hopefully this discussion will help stop folks from continuing to claim that Mrs. Clinton should be prosecuted just as Petraeus.
 
*cues the first person to come and claim that Mr. Mukasey is biased or lacks the knowledge necessary to make this statement.
 
So Hillary, head of the State Department, had no idea that she would be receiving and delivering classified material through her private Email server ?

A server she set up for the explicit purpose of circumventing congressional commitee and FOIA request ?

Really ?

That's her defense ? And you want this person to be our next President ?
 
I love how liberals always call themselves incompetent when they do wrong. I just didn't know I was doing anything wrong the sixty times I did it. Lol.

Oh, and my server got professional cleaned by shear accident. Obviously.

Btw, great endorsement. Hillary is just an incompetent boob! Vote Hillary for president!
 
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MrT said:
Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, appointed by President George W. Bush, has weighed in on the Clinton Email Scandal by discussing the comparison between Mrs. Clinton and his own prosecution of General Petraeus for the crime of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

"As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."

Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton has committed no crime

I think we all know that this vote of confidence will not stop the political grandstanding (see Benghazi after 11 different investigations), but hopefully this discussion will help stop folks from continuing to claim that Mrs. Clinton should be prosecuted just as Petraeus.
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So you are saying she was just too stupid to know processing classified information on her private email was illegal?
 
MrT said:
Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, appointed by President George W. Bush, has weighed in on the Clinton Email Scandal by discussing the comparison between Mrs. Clinton and his own prosecution of General Petraeus for the crime of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

"As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."
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Two points here.

1. If you are going to give credence to his opinion then, Hillary did break the law. So all this she did nothing illegal talk can stop

2. Since when did ignorance of the law count as a defense? Not to mention that Hilary was one of the only people who was authorized to determine what was and wasnt classified. The excuse that she didnt knowingly do it doesnt hold water.
 
Crovax said:
Two points here.

1. If you are going to give credence to his opinion then, Hillary did break the law. So all this she did nothing illegal talk can stop

2. Since when did ignorance of the law count as a defense? Not to mention that Hilary was one of the only people who was authorized to determine what was and wasnt classified. The excuse that she didnt knowingly do it doesnt hold water.
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1) How did you reach the conclusion, based on his opinion, that she committed a crime when he explicitly states that she did not?

2) Ignorance of the law is not a defense; however, certain criminal laws require proof of a requisite mens rea. An intent to transmit information marked classified, at the time of the transmission, to a person without the requisite security clearance is required here. If you can not prove that the information was classified at the time, or that she knowingly transmitted that information to someone without the requisite security clearance, then you have not proven a crime.
 
BrewerBob said:
So you are saying she was just too stupid to know processing classified information on her private email was illegal?
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No, Mr. Mukasey is saying that the information was either not marked classified at the time or that classified information was not knowingly transmitted to a third party who lacked the requisite security clearance.
 
Fenton said:
So Hillary, head of the State Department, had no idea that she would be receiving and delivering classified material through her private Email server ?
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She did not send or receive material marked classified at the time that it passed through her server.

Fenton said:
A server she set up for the explicit purpose of circumventing congressional commitee and FOIA request ?
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That is a baseless allegation.
 
MrT said:
Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, appointed by President George W. Bush, has weighed in on the Clinton Email Scandal by discussing the comparison between Mrs. Clinton and his own prosecution of General Petraeus for the crime of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

"As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."

Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton has committed no crime

I think we all know that this vote of confidence will not stop the political grandstanding (see Benghazi after 11 different investigations), but hopefully this discussion will help stop folks from continuing to claim that Mrs. Clinton should be prosecuted just as Petraeus.
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Well, probably not, as it is more a question of whom it is intelligent to lend power and not like with the general a question of courts. In court the defendant must be assumed innocent till otherwise proven. In an election it is the other way around. If the candidate cannot show that he/she is innocent, only an idiot would normally take the chance. We are talking about entrusting someone with enormous power over the citizens. If there is any suspicion, you cannot do it.
 
MrT said:
Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, appointed by President George W. Bush, has weighed in on the Clinton Email Scandal by discussing the comparison between Mrs. Clinton and his own prosecution of General Petraeus for the crime of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

"As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."

Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton has committed no crime

I think we all know that this vote of confidence will not stop the political grandstanding (see Benghazi after 11 different investigations), but hopefully this discussion will help stop folks from continuing to claim that Mrs. Clinton should be prosecuted just as Petraeus.
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He didn't claim she didn't break the law.

He claimed she didn't break the same law that Petraeus did.
 
And yet she's still the clear front runner. Telling.
 
MrT said:
She did not send or receive material marked classified at the time that it passed through her server.



That is a baseless allegation.
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How would you know ?

She deleted thousands of Emails and then had her server professionally wiped before giving it to the FBI.

And you would still vote for her.....wow

And ofcour she it's a baseless assertion. Dveryone knows she set up that server because she only wanted to carry around one device....Lol !
 
Caine said:
He didn't claim she didn't break the law.

He claimed she didn't break the same law that Petraeus did.
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While certainly true, the crime of "unauthorized removal and retention of classified information" appears to be the primary allegation being made against Mrs. Clinton in regards to this case.
 
MrT said:
While certainly true, the crime of "unauthorized removal and retention of classified information" appears to be the primary allegation being made against Mrs. Clinton in regards to this case.
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By whom?
 
MrT said:
Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, appointed by President George W. Bush, has weighed in on the Clinton Email Scandal by discussing the comparison between Mrs. Clinton and his own prosecution of General Petraeus for the crime of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.

"As the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, I oversaw the prosecution of Gen. Petraeus, and I can say, based on the known facts, this comparison has no merit. The key element that distinguishes Secretary Clinton’s email retention practices from Petraeus’ sharing of classified information is that Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."

Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton has committed no crime

I think we all know that this vote of confidence will not stop the political grandstanding (see Benghazi after 11 different investigations), but hopefully this discussion will help stop folks from continuing to claim that Mrs. Clinton should be prosecuted just as Petraeus.
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This is an opinion piece. Why is it in this part of the forum? It is under the opinion section of USA Today.

Yet another article that claims Hillary is an idiot and yet should be president.
 
MrT said:
No, Mr. Mukasey is saying that the information was either not marked classified at the time or that classified information was not knowingly transmitted to a third party who lacked the requisite security clearance.
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I spent an entire career working in embassies. She would be an idiot not to recognize TS information. SECRET, I could possibly understand. Not TS. It screams in your face.
 
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