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France train attack: Americans overpower gunman on Paris express

He says he just wanted to rob the train. But just like anything, innocent until proven guilty, that is how a system of law works.

Oh yes... rob the train. My bet is many Europeans and members of the Party of Sozialists (POS) in America would believe it.

Dead terrorists are the best terrorists.

No trials needed.
No need to feed them... and I'd feed the asshole pork 3-times a day.
Cloth them... etc.
 
Works like a charm against Islamic terrorists. Helped to find Bin Laden's courier.

So what? Torture is banned, that is how simple it is. No good comes from it, you cannot be a morally upstanding country if you use torture.
 
LOL... three protesters... ok.

I recall Reagan... proposed action that brought down the USSR. The Euros were like a bunch of exploding bobble heads. Facts is, the Europeans have been wrong on just about everything of importance during the past 40-years.
What Americans Really Think of Europe - The Globalist

Noticed you didn't reply to the bit about dead terrorists being the best terrorists.

Well maybe I did not respond to that comment because I already stated that no good comes from a dead terrorist in a situation like on the train.

No, Reagan did not propose action that brought down the USSR, time and smarter Soviet leadership did that.

What Europeans (including myself) did was protest against further nuclear missiles.
 
Waterboarding isn't torture... we don't torture our own troops, but we do waterboard them as part of their training.

Well, that is news to those who are waterboarded. Waterboarding is torture.

Waterboarding is a form of water torture in which water is poured over a cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning. Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage, and death. Adverse physical consequences can manifest themselves months after the event, while psychological effects can last for years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

WASHINGTON—The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday that waterboarding is torture, the first time the group has publicly declared that a specific interrogation technique—one employed by the U.S.—violates the Geneva Conventions.

The Geneva-based humanitarian organization, which oversees the treaty, weighed in amid renewed U.S. debate over Central Intelligence Agency practices after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, which included waterboarding several detainees at so-called black sites overseas. The CIA and lawmakers have been fighting over publication of portions of an extensive Senate Intelligence Committee report said to be critical of the spy agency's conduct.

"The definition of torture is any technique that causes severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, inflicted for a purpose, such as obtaining information or a confession, exerting pressure, intimidation or humiliation," said Anna Nelson, the International Red Cross spokeswoman in Washington. "Waterboarding fits into this category and therefore qualifies as torture" under U.S. and international law, she added.

Waterboarding Is Torture, Says International Red Cross - WSJ
 
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Well maybe I did not respond to that comment because I already stated that no good comes from a dead terrorist in a situation like on the train.
Lots of good comes from it:

The most important being, they will never be released from detention... ever.

No, Reagan did not propose action that brought down the USSR, time and smarter Soviet leadership did that.
Gorby was a Commi through and through, and had no intention of bringing down the USSR... and those who put him into power after Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko... had no desire to see the USSR flushed down the sewer.

Reagan made it clear that if it was a race they wanted, they'd never win... and he walked Gorby to the cliff's edge, and watched him walk over.
ROTFLOL

What Europeans (including myself) did was protest against further nuclear missiles.
No... not totally... you protested against the placement of defensive missiles in Europe, and these were missiles Carter removed and were to be replaced. Stooges for Soviet propaganda... and of course the EuroSozialist press corpse.

You folks also failed to realize how the USSR would be brought down. If it was up to weak kneed Leftists... the USSR would still be in existence.
 
Oh yes... rob the train. My bet is many Europeans and members of the Party of Sozialists (POS) in America would believe it.

Dead terrorists are the best terrorists.

No trials needed.
No need to feed them... and I'd feed the asshole pork 3-times a day.
Cloth them... etc.

Hey, I am not saying I believe him. And I seriously doubt anyone in Europe believes him, but it is what he says. And all media, including "socialist" media sees it as terror.

And just because you think so poorly about Americans (incorrectly I don't doubt) and about Europeans, just proves you are clearly know nothing about Europeans.

And no, dead terrorists are not the best terrorists.

Captured, jailed and confessing terrorists are the best terrorists.
 
Lots of good comes from it:

The most important being, they will never be released from detention... ever.


Wrong, but you are allowed your opinion, I just totally and utterly disagree with it.

Gorby was a Commi through and through, and had no intention of bringing down the USSR... and those who put him into power after Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko... had no desire to see the USSR flushed down the sewer.

Reagan made it clear that if it was a race they wanted, they'd never win... and he walked Gorby to the cliff's edge, and watched him walk over.
ROTFLOL


No, the reality on the ground is what ended communism. Not Reagan.

The end of communism was coming because no dictatorial regime can survive it's own population. Poverty, lack of riches, lack of freedom and being sick and tired of corruption ended the Soviet empire. Just like all dictatorships, it has a exposure date, a date that it cannot survive past.

]No... not totally... you protested against the placement of defensive missiles in Europe, and these were missiles Carter removed and were to be replaced. Stooges for Soviet propaganda... and of course the EuroSozialist press corpse.

You folks also failed to realize how the USSR would be brought down. If it was up to weak kneed Leftists... the USSR would still be in existence.

No, actually we were not "stooges for soviet propaganda", we were just not willing to have nuclear missiles on our country. And weak kneed leftists also dislike the Soviet Union.

All of your comments just show you have swallowed all the anti-left propaganda and misinformation about Europeans.
 
And just because you think so poorly... about Europeans, just proves you are clearly know nothing about Europeans.
I know Europe better than most Europeans.

And no, dead terrorists are not the best terrorists.
You will never find a dead terrorist kill and maim more innocents.
A dead terrorist will never be released.

And Germany set a precedent of releasing terrorists, that doesn't bode well for the future of captured European Islamo-terrorists.

Gitmo terrorists have been released, only to wind up back doing their dirty deeds.

Dead terrorists are the best.
 
So what? Torture is banned, that is how simple it is. No good comes from it, you cannot be a morally upstanding country if you use torture.

When they jacked 4 planes and crashed them into 3 buildings the Islamists who did this crossed the line.
 
I know Europe better than most Europeans.


You will never find a dead terrorist kill and maim more innocents.
A dead terrorist will never be released.

And Germany set a precedent of releasing terrorists, that doesn't bode well for the future of captured European Islamo-terrorists.

Gitmo terrorists have been released, only to wind up back doing their dirty deeds.

Dead terrorists are the best.

You can't expect a reservist, an airman, a college student (Sacramento State), and a British civilian to act like special forces however.

It's good that they took him alive.

Even a Marine would have taken him alive, albeit there would have been more broken bones.
 
I am not part of that global understanding, nor are many millions of other Americans. Whether this bastard deserves to be put to death is debatable, but if he had killed anyone, I would regret it if he could not be executed. He obviously planned to murder a great many people. Let's hope the next one who tries anything will get the Garland treatment, so there will be no trial.
Is that solitary confinement and having to listen to the Wizard of Oz all day? :mrgreen:
 
I know Europe better than most Europeans.

Maybe, but I am not sure you know it better than this European.

You will never find a dead terrorist kill and maim more innocents.
A dead terrorist will never be released.

And Germany set a precedent of releasing terrorists, that doesn't bode well for the future of captured European Islamo-terrorists.

Gitmo terrorists have been released, only to wind up back doing their dirty deeds.

Dead terrorists are the best.

Great that is your opinion.

I disagree with you, as is my right.
 
When they jacked 4 planes and crashed them into 3 buildings the Islamists who did this crossed the line.

So? But it is insane to compare yourself to islamo terrorists, that is why they are the bad guys (because they do bad things) and we are the morally upstanding good guys (because we do not do these kind of evil things).
 
Why does everything have to be a subject to argue about? Our guys, from several different military branches, did something good. Can't we just celebrate the lives saved rather than argue about whether Muslims suck or left is righter than the right? The arguing does them disservice.

By the way, just because the guy might have been Muslim doesn't make all Muslims bad people.
seconded and carried:applaud
 
Yup the French guy tried to do it and got beaten -- same as WW1 and WW2.

The British guy jumped in with the 3 Americans -- guess he remembered who save them in WW1 and WW2.
dumbest post of TOday, so far.
 
The "French guy" was American-French...

Why does stupid nationalism have to come into this? It's not funny or clever in the slightest.
Because ignorance coupled with infantilism is not content with simply being, it needs to express itself.
 
Belgium not France -- although it was a French train.
The train is run and owned jointly by France, Belgium and Germany. But yeah, France holds the majority of shares.
 
So Europe...how's that diversity and gun control thing going?

Europe will see more and more of these incidents so long as they keep importing crap from North Africa and the Middle East. I wouldn't be surprised if they are coming in among the boats from across the Med. In fact, ISIS did declare they would do just that.

As the United States has a murder rate that is 4.5 times that of France, I guess their "diversity and gun control thing" is going pretty good for them.
 
You may want to borrow my knife before you go there. England is a knife culture, not guns.

The big knife -- the really really big one.
Bringing a knife to a brick throwing fight is almost as dumb as bringing it to a gunfight.
 
That's similar to the strategy used on Sept 11 2001 with the skyjackers in NYC -- coming into the USA through Logan Airport in Canada.
Yeah, after they'd happily taken flight training in the US most undisturbedly for weeks.
 
They still haven't had the nerve yet to call him an Islamic terrorist. So far he's just a Moroccan.
You ever heard of the concept of due legal proceeding?
 
You always want to take the perp alive so you can interrogate him. I vote for CIA waterboarding.
Yeah, so do I. About time they were given a sample of their own goods.

Don't bother trying to decode that one, it takes equipment :mrgreen:
 
The funny thing about anti-Americanism in Europe is how selective it is. No protests against Obama... but watch... when Trump is elected... out come the idiots.
How blatantly true, thanks for that.
 
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