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Hackers Finally Post Stolen Ashley Madison Data

Henrin said:
That wouldn't even be comparable. All I'm doing is speaking my mind on a public forum. When you cheat you're breaking your word, deceiving your partner, and risking their health. How in the hell is speaking your mind even comparable to cheating?
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Oh, so it's ok to break the law and expose someone's personal data if we really don't like them!
 
ludin said:
maybe they should have remembered their wedding vows or their wives or children before signing up for a cheating sight??
just a thought.
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How are their vows yours, or anyone else's, business? There's no justice in mob justice. People may think they're coming from some moral high ground, but they're not. Theft and publication of personal data isn't an good thing. This can lead to a lot negative consequences from the obvious family strive to larger crimes suchnas identity theft.

People get a hold of this information, empty some dude's bank account, and now a family is destitute. Is that worth the smug condescension? A family trying to work through problems has their personal affairs thrown into the public spotlight. Can you imagine the shame and embarrassment, the added guilt and stress not just to the cheater but to the entire family? Is their suffering worth the smug condescension? What if it goes even further and results in a suicide or jealous rage that ends in murder? Is it worth the smug condescension?

Reveling in the plight and suffering of others while excusing crimes against the individual. I don't think that's worth the smug condescension.
 
Henrin said:
That wouldn't even be comparable. I didn't break my word, I didn't deceive anyone, I'm not doing anything behind someones back, I'm not risking the health of anyone, I'm not doing anything but saying unpleasant things.
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Alright, so if the site was hacked and your personal info was released because somebody else found you unpleasant, that would be a problem for you?
 
Deuce said:
Adultery is not illegal, what on earth are you talking about?
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Which is not what I said. Read it again. I was specific with my choice of words.
 
A question.


Well, a couple, actually...

Where is this data posted? And how are spouses supposed to know to go check that? What I mean by that is, my wife is not snooping on the net to see if my account is up there. Why? Because she has no need to, and she knows it. What I mean to say is, the only people stressing over having their spouse catch them are the ones who are already under suspician anyway. Right? So these hackers. What have they done, really? Exposed the "crimes" of these folks to the public? But only those who are ALREADY in a bad spot are the ones that are going to get checked up on...and frankly, by that point, their indescretians were likely to come to light anyway.

I understand why hackers did this. I just think there was likely a better way to go about it, and achieve the same results...WITHOUT posting someones bank accounts for the world to see.
 
Deuce said:
Oh, so it's ok to break the law and expose someone's personal data if we really don't like them!
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I would say the hackers went too far with what they released, but informing people someone is a deceitful **** that can't keep his or her word and doesn't care about their wife/husband is justice.
 
Henrin said:
I would say the hackers went too far with what they released, but informing people someone is a deceitful **** that can't keep his or her word and doesn't care about their wife/husband is justice.
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Oh? And how would the hackers have informed the cheater's family that the spouse was a cheater without releasing their info? Also, I noticed you backed away from my question. Would you have had a problem with someone posting your identifying information if they decided you were unpleasant enough in their eyes?
 
Hacking is illegal. Prostitution is illegal in many states. Apparently, cheating sites are legal. I feel a little confused on why prostitution is illegal in many states but the act of having sex with other people from an online site is peachy keen? Any attempts to explain this would be appreciated.
 
Henrin said:
I would say the hackers went too far with what they released, but informing people someone is a deceitful **** that can't keep his or her word and doesn't care about their wife/husband is justice.
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there are lots of open marriages/relationships in the world. how do you know that 100% of AM users are "deceitful".
with that said, just because it may be open between the parties involved doesn't mean it needs to be made public.
 
Ikari said:
How are their vows yours, or anyone else's, business? There's no justice in mob justice. People may think they're coming from some moral high ground, but they're not. Theft and publication of personal data isn't an good thing. This can lead to a lot negative consequences from the obvious family strive to larger crimes suchnas identity theft.
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they got caught. doing something they knew they should not be doing. spare me the moral high ground argument.
the ideological left is all about attempting to take the moral high ground on anything that suits their political beliefs.

this is the moral high ground. you don't sign up on an affair site.

People get a hold of this information, empty some dude's bank account, and now a family is destitute. Is that worth the smug condescension? A family trying to work through problems has their personal affairs thrown into the public spotlight. Can you imagine the shame and embarrassment, the added guilt and stress not just to the cheater but to the entire family? Is their suffering worth the smug condescension? What if it goes even further and results in a suicide or jealous rage that ends in murder? Is it worth the smug condescension?
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slippery slope is not an argument.

Reveling in the plight and suffering of others while excusing crimes against the individual. I don't think that's worth the smug condescension.
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good thing no one is doing this. I am simply pointing out to someone who doesn't think there isn't a moral lesson to be learned.
and yes condescension is earned if you are that much of a loser that you have to sign up for a friggen affair site to cheat on your wife.

you are doing way more harm than good anyway. long term emotional issues are even worse. you don't want to be with your wife at least have the guts to divorce her.
while someone is still a scum bag at least you are a step above the person attempting to have an affair.
 
ludin said:
they got caught. doing something they knew they should not be doing. spare me the moral high ground argument.
the ideological left is all about attempting to take the moral high ground on anything that suits their political beliefs.

this is the moral high ground. you don't sign up on an affair site.



slippery slope is not an argument.



good thing no one is doing this. I am simply pointing out to someone who doesn't think there isn't a moral lesson to be learned.
and yes condescension is earned if you are that much of a loser that you have to sign up for a friggen affair site to cheat on your wife.

you are doing way more harm than good anyway. long term emotional issues are even worse. you don't want to be with your wife at least have the guts to divorce her.
while someone is still a scum bag at least you are a step above the person attempting to have an affair.
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That wasn't slippery slope, those are actual possible outcomes. But if it makes you feel better to ignore thatbso you can excuse criminal activity for acts that are not criminal, but rather personal, in nature, so be it. But there is no justice in mob justice. Just folk reveling in their spite and hatred against others
 
Ikari said:
That wasn't slippery slope, those are actual possible outcomes. But if it makes you feel better to ignore thatbso you can excuse criminal activity for acts that are not criminal, but rather personal, in nature, so be it. But there is no justice in mob justice. Just folk reveling in their spite and hatred against others
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I am not ignoring anything.

I am addressing the fact that these people got themselves into this mess by their own behavior.
if you don't like the consequences I suggest not doing the actions.
 
ludin said:
there is a supposed lawsuit that most of the profiles are fake in order to get men to sign up.
frankly this is a good possibility.

while imagine that there are women out there willing to cheat on their spouse it isn't the norm.
women don't usually cheat over physical reasons but more emotional ones.

men are the ones that usually cheat over the physical stuff.
I am sure there are women on that site but I figure the majority of them are men.
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I know women personally who've cheated. Women are not saints.
 
Deuce said:
It's not a breach of contract.
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It is, actually, which is why it's grounds for divorce...the nullification of the contract. With the added caveat of the division of belongings, typically favoring the one that DIDN'T "cheat".

I'm not saying that it SHOULD be illegal...but now that marriage is firmly separated from religion, and is without doubt a legal state issue....well, maybe some of these things need to be looked at from that angle.
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
Hacking is illegal. Prostitution is illegal in many states. Apparently, cheating sites are legal. I feel a little confused on why prostitution is illegal in many states but the act of having sex with other people from an online site is peachy keen? Any attempts to explain this would be appreciated.
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Lack of formal monetary transaction in need of taxation.
 
sorry

but i just cant feel pity, or sorry for the people who are being exposed in this

they chose to be a part of the site.....

they chose to cheat on their partner.....

unless someone can show me where someone was forced to sign up under duress, they "made their own bed"

now it might come back to bite them in the ass......sorry about that

maybe you should have thought about that before you joined
 
ludin said:
I am not ignoring anything.

I am addressing the fact that these people got themselves into this mess by their own behavior.
if you don't like the consequences I suggest not doing the actions.
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Yes, actions have consequences. But criminal acts are not some form of karma, mob justice is not some divine force dispensing justice to those who deserve it. This era of internet warriors and public shaming is a step backwards, not forwards. And people are so willing to jump in, that they will gleefully ignore the humanity of others to dance in their own smug condescension.
 
gdgyva said:
sorry

but i just cant feel pity, or sorry for the people who are being exposed in this

they chose to be a part of the site.....

they chose to cheat on their partner.....

unless someone can show me where someone was forced to sign up under duress, they "made their own bed"

now it might come back to bite them in the ass......sorry about that

maybe you should have thought about that before you joined
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I feel bad for the husbands and wives that were cheated on, if they were. But revealing their identity is different then stealing their personal information for ill gotten gains. Yes those people should known that being revealed was a risk when they joined. The morality issue or lack of it it doesn't justify the criminal nature of this.
 
KevinKohler said:
It is, actually, which is why it's grounds for divorce...the nullification of the contract. With the added caveat of the division of belongings, typically favoring the one that DIDN'T "cheat".

I'm not saying that it SHOULD be illegal...but now that marriage is firmly separated from religion, and is without doubt a legal state issue....well, maybe some of these things need to be looked at from that angle.
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what specific agreements of the marriage contract were violated?
 
American said:
I know women personally who've cheated. Women are not saints.
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not saying they are. women just cheat for different reasons.
which is why I think that Madison most of the women on there are fake profiles.
they are not real.
 
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