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Black guy who was cleared after 17 years in prison is now shot dead

American said:
I guess I read the article.
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So did I. But then you went off on some weird tangent about crime being justified, which nobody suggested. And then when I pointed out nobody suggested this, then you act like someone was saying no crime existed. Nobody said either of these things.So again I ask, what thread are you reading?
 
Deuce said:
So did I. But then you went off on some weird tangent about crime being justified, which nobody suggested. And then when I pointed out nobody suggested this, then you act like someone was saying no crime existed. Nobody said either of these things.So again I ask, what thread are you reading?
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No I asked if his criminal actions were justified by the fact that he was innocent of the previous crime.
 
American said:
No I asked if his criminal actions were justified by the fact that he was innocent of the previous crime.
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Actually what you said was

American said:
So acting like a criminal was justified. :roll:
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You were insinuating that this argument was made. False.

If you had been "just asking questions," then the answer is no. Happy to help. But you and I both know that's not true. You were attacking a blatant straw man, and then when called out on it you made up a new one.
 
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Harman said:
America will soon be a non-white country so racism will not be as potent.
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I see. You think only whites are racist.

Also, the white youth of the nation are becoming cognizant of their white privilege and are going to take steps to counteract it.
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Really? What makes you think "white guilt" is going to be a factor in anyone's behavior?

In addition, drugs are going to be legalized.
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Really?

Last, more whites are having mixed race babies, thereby ensuring a less racist future.
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This is just liberal drivel. Spoken by someone who's never left mama's basement.
 
Deuce said:
Actually what you said was



You were insinuating that this argument was made. False.

If you had been "just asking questions," then the answer is no. Happy to help. But you and I both know that's not true. You were attacking a blatant straw man, and then when called out on it you made up a new one.
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You're arguing bull**** and you know. You're trying to veer off the subject. The ex-con acted like a criminal, period. He got shot in an argument over a bad drug deal. I think you just like to argue, in fact I know you do......that's your MO around here.
 
Winston Parker said:
I'm sorry but here's one more killing story that really made me terrified and shocked

Chicago man cleared after 17 years in prison shot dead - Yahoo News

A Chicagoan African American, Alprentiss Nash, 40, was shot dead for a "drug deal that went bad".
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It wasn't a "drug deal that went bad", he tried to rip someone off and the other guy didn't like it.

Police claim murder exoneree Alprentiss Nash was killed while trying to rob a man on Near West Side | Homicide Watch Chicago | Mark every death. Remember every victim. Follow every case.

The exclusiveness of this shooting in front of the others lies in the story of this man. Three years ago he was released from prison, where he spent 17 years for a crime he didn't commit.
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That is true, and he sued the city and it was settled out of court. He came into quite a nice sum of money.

Wrongly convicted: Chicago man sues city, police after serving 17 years in prison — RT USA

So I want to bring up for discussion the problem of the destiny of the large amount of our compatriots. There's a whole social layer of people who don't know another life but drugs, crimes and being imprisoned. The USA lies in the second place in the world's list of countries by incarceration rate. And 80% of prisoners are black.
What kind of race equality is that?
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If you rip someone off in a drug deal, you deserve whatever you get. Why is a guy who just got a million dollar paycheck ripping people off in a street deal? I'm very sorry for your bleeding heart, but there is no excuse for stuff like this. This guy could have had plenty of support from community, and instead he turned back to the dark side. Shame on him, and shame on you for making this about race.
 
ballantine said:
If you rip someone off in a drug deal, you deserve whatever you get.
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Yeah, go buy your own ****! :lol:

I love this statement from his lawyer:

“Our client, Alprentiss Nash was murdered :shock: in Chicago yesterday during a failed robbery attempt.”
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Seems like if murder is what it takes to clear the streets of robbers and drug dealers, then we need more murderers. ;)
 
Soho gator said:
As a reasonable person I think the war on drugs isnot worth the cost in blood and treasure. Legalize it all Pot, Coke, Acid (especially) Heroin, etc.

Back in the day I hovered a lot of coke, my demographic (white, well off, educated) did as well. No one got caught because the cops didn't go after us (we weren't too subtle about it), they went after poor black's who were trying to scratch out a dangerous living (being that it was illegal). Additionally, if the coke was in rock form the penalty was 10 times of that of the powdered version preferred by white people.

Troubling
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Somehow I doubt the validity of this.
 
Harman said:
This is a great example of white privilege.
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Only if you choose to believe it. I for one never had that kind of "privilege" from cops and I was damn sure doing everything that I could to hide the few times that I smoked pot.

Harman said:
The OP is troubling but I think the future shows a lot of promise.

America will soon be a non-white country so racism will not be as potent. Also, the white youth of the nation are becoming cognizant of their white privilege and are going to take steps to counteract it. In addition, drugs are going to be legalized. Last, more whites are having mixed race babies, thereby ensuring a less racist future.
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Racism at its core here folks. Someone that is cheering the fact that one day whites will no longer be around and that only whites can be racist.
 
Winston Parker said:
I'm sorry but here's one more killing story that really made me terrified and shocked

Chicago man cleared after 17 years in prison shot dead - Yahoo News

A Chicagoan African American, Alprentiss Nash, 40, was shot dead for a "drug deal that went bad". The exclusiveness of this shooting in front of the others lies in the story of this man. Three years ago he was released from prison, where he spent 17 years for a crime he didn't commit.
So I want to bring up for discussion the problem of the destiny of the large amount of our compatriots. There's a whole social layer of people who don't know another life but drugs, crimes and being imprisoned. The USA lies in the second place in the world's list of countries by incarceration rate. And 80% of prisoners are black.
What kind of race equality is that?
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1. It's Chicago... no surprise he was shot dead. Sorry, but look at the stats.
2014 Chicago Crime & Murder Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

2. Unfortunate he was in prison 17-years for a crime he didn't commit. Moral of the story? Drug dealing in prison is safer than in Chicago.

Me thinks Chicago needs more Kommi Organiz'in. Whatch u think?
 
American said:
You're arguing bull**** and you know. You're trying to veer off the subject. The ex-con acted like a criminal, period. He got shot in an argument over a bad drug deal. I think you just like to argue, in fact I know you do......that's your MO around here.
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I'm trying to veer off subject? You're the one twice attacking blatant, absurd straw man arguments.
 
American said:
Didn't they teach him in prison that crime doesn't pay?
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Yes, the best way to teach a person or a dog is to keep the subject in a cage or on a rope. Yes, that is most conducive to learning, ALL THE WRONG THINGS.
 
Winston Parker said:
I'm sorry but here's one more killing story that really made me terrified and shocked

Chicago man cleared after 17 years in prison shot dead - Yahoo News

A Chicagoan African American, Alprentiss Nash, 40, was shot dead for a "drug deal that went bad". The exclusiveness of this shooting in front of the others lies in the story of this man. Three years ago he was released from prison, where he spent 17 years for a crime he didn't commit.
So I want to bring up for discussion the problem of the destiny of the large amount of our compatriots. There's a whole social layer of people who don't know another life but drugs, crimes and being imprisoned. The USA lies in the second place in the world's list of countries by incarceration rate. And 80% of prisoners are black.
What kind of race equality is that?
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The US is in second place in per capita rate of imprisonment? Behind who?
 
reinoe said:
Let it be known that conservatives determine how important a story is depends on the race of the people involved.
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Let it be known that Reinoe labels large swaths of people by a thread post by one of them.
 
Winston Parker said:
I'm sorry but here's one more killing story that really made me terrified and shocked

Chicago man cleared after 17 years in prison shot dead - Yahoo News

A Chicagoan African American, Alprentiss Nash, 40, was shot dead for a "drug deal that went bad". The exclusiveness of this shooting in front of the others lies in the story of this man. Three years ago he was released from prison, where he spent 17 years for a crime he didn't commit.
So I want to bring up for discussion the problem of the destiny of the large amount of our compatriots. There's a whole social layer of people who don't know another life but drugs, crimes and being imprisoned. The USA lies in the second place in the world's list of countries by incarceration rate. And 80% of prisoners are black.
What kind of race equality is that?
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So, this post assumes all races are equal in their socioeconomic status and blacks are singled out because of their skin color. So for example, a town has 1,000 educated, middle class residents and 1,000 uneducated, poor residents. Which of the two groups is more likely to break the laws of that town?
 
rhinefire said:
So, this post assumes all races are equal in their socioeconomic status and blacks are singled out because of their skin color. So for example, a town has 1,000 educated, middle class residents and 1,000 uneducated, poor residents. Which of the two groups is more likely to break the laws of that town?
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A group of criminals, usually. But it's hard for them to commit economic crime which is a breaking of the law too.
 
Sorry to rain on this racially inflamed parade, but the article speaks of a man from Chicago being released from prison. He was cleared of the crime by DNA evidence when such became available. Great. While late, justice prevailed.

Now to the separate issue, that of overwhelming crime infested areas
how can we, as a society, change street laws, laws they defend to their deaths? I don't know. Education countering street education, gaining the trust of those community leaders who may have some sort of influence in the neighborhood?
Look folks, while it is high and mighty to make this into a racial issue, each section of America has its own variation of crime, law and order. While urban Chicago may look a bit different than the sprawled out meth centrals of the rural south, the problem remains the same. Drugs, violence, hopelessness, lack of jobs, disjointed families. We have to dig very deep to get to the bottom of it, instead of putting a bandage on a very large gash just to give us some instant gratification.
 
Lovebug said:
how can we, as a society, change street laws, laws they defend to their deaths? I don't know. Education countering street education, gaining the trust of those community leaders who may have some sort of influence in the neighborhood?
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The street laws can be easily changed in ANY regime. There just has to be a powerful man with a strong hand and clear intentions.
You may call me whatever you like, but I believe that the underground America needs a tyrant to clean her up!
 
If not for being released from prison, this man would be alive today. The obvious solution is to never release anyone from prison*.


* - this is sarcastic. If you take it as a serious post, you can go pound sand**.

** - This is not sarcastic.
 
That would be funnier if you were serious!
 
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