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Weenies burn flag to protest cops, get attacked by bikers, need cops to save their asses | New York Post



Now they probably*love*the cops.

A group of flag-burning anti-NYPD protesters needed New York’s Finest to save their skin from a gang of angry bikers who tried to pummel them in a Brooklyn park for setting Old Glory ablaze Wednesday.

The fiery stunt by a few dozen members of the group Disarm the Police led to a chaotic scene at about 8 p.m. in Fort Greene Park, when the activists enraged 40 members of the Hallowed Sons Motorcycle Club by roasting the flag on a tiny barbecue grill.

“They took off like little b—hes,” said one biker. “They lit the f–king flag and took off running once they got slapped once or twice.”

The anarchists had announced on social media that they had planned to burn the flag in protest of NYPD policies, drawing a large group of flag-waving counterprotesters, including the bikers.

While it’s illegal to openly burn anything in Fort Greene Park, the self-styled anarchists managed to find a loophole in the law that allows cooking in closed barbecue grills.

Thus, they started to roast the flag, but they didn’t burn it for long. One of the bikers rushed forward in a fit of rage and kicked over the grill, sending embers flying. He then doused it as members of the pro-flag crowd chanted “USA! USA!”

The bikers then started trying to rough up the protesters — who were quickly saved by members of the same police force that they criticize.

The protesters were shielded by the cops and escorted out of the park.

“I served in the Marines,” said counterprotester Brian Christopher, 23. “We defend this flag. We are ready to die for it. When I see people burning it and showing complete ignorance, it’s very offensive.”

No arrests were made in the scuffle, and the group’s flag-burning stunt went up in smoke.

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Had to do a double and triple take at the hairy dude in the skirt.
 
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This one line from the article says it all
The protesters were shielded by the cops and escorted out of the park.

A little common sense is a rare thing anymore.
 
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Weenies burn flag to protest cops, get attacked by bikers, need cops to save their asses | New York Post



Now they probably*love*the cops.

A group of flag-burning anti-NYPD protesters needed New York’s Finest to save their skin from a gang of angry bikers who tried to pummel them in a Brooklyn park for setting Old Glory ablaze Wednesday.

The fiery stunt by a few dozen members of the group Disarm the Police led to a chaotic scene at about 8 p.m. in Fort Greene Park, when the activists enraged 40 members of the Hallowed Sons Motorcycle Club by roasting the flag on a tiny barbecue grill.

“They took off like little b—hes,” said one biker. “They lit the f–king flag and took off running once they got slapped once or twice.”

The anarchists had announced on social media that they had planned to burn the flag in protest of NYPD policies, drawing a large group of flag-waving counterprotesters, including the bikers.

While it’s illegal to openly burn anything in Fort Greene Park, the self-styled anarchists managed to find a loophole in the law that allows cooking in closed barbecue grills.

Thus, they started to roast the flag, but they didn’t burn it for long. One of the bikers rushed forward in a fit of rage and kicked over the grill, sending embers flying. He then doused it as members of the pro-flag crowd chanted “USA! USA!”

The bikers then started trying to rough up the protesters — who were quickly saved by members of the same police force that they criticize.

The protesters were shielded by the cops and escorted out of the park.

“I served in the Marines,” said counterprotester Brian Christopher, 23. “We defend this flag. We are ready to die for it. When I see people burning it and showing complete ignorance, it’s very offensive.”

No arrests were made in the scuffle, and the group’s flag-burning stunt went up in smoke.

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Right because bike gangs are really the image of "patriotism" we need to regale... NOT! They're quite often criminals, murderers, drugs dealers, .... really, this is somehow good?

And protesting police brutality is saying that the police should do their jobs properly, not that police should disappear. The only way these protesters would be hypocrites is if after the bikers were in hand cuffs or detained, the protesters suggested they should be mistreated, artificially set up to appear guilty, tased, shot, sodomized with inanimate objects, .... I don't think they did that. People protest abuses by police, not the concept of police over all.

You folks are just so black and white in your thinking... police can do no wrong, and anyone who wants the police to obey the laws and honorable conduct somehow want the police to disappear and do nothing.

Such childish perspectives.
 
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A group of law abiding citizens is attacked by a mob of right wing thugs, and unsurprisingly, some DPers approve
 
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Weenies burn flag to protest cops, get attacked by bikers, need cops to save their asses | New York Post



Now they probably*love*the cops.

A group of flag-burning anti-NYPD protesters needed New York’s Finest to save their skin from a gang of angry bikers who tried to pummel them in a Brooklyn park for setting Old Glory ablaze Wednesday.

The fiery stunt by a few dozen members of the group Disarm the Police led to a chaotic scene at about 8 p.m. in Fort Greene Park, when the activists enraged 40 members of the Hallowed Sons Motorcycle Club by roasting the flag on a tiny barbecue grill.

“They took off like little b—hes,” said one biker. “They lit the f–king flag and took off running once they got slapped once or twice.”

The anarchists had announced on social media that they had planned to burn the flag in protest of NYPD policies, drawing a large group of flag-waving counterprotesters, including the bikers.

While it’s illegal to openly burn anything in Fort Greene Park, the self-styled anarchists managed to find a loophole in the law that allows cooking in closed barbecue grills.

Thus, they started to roast the flag, but they didn’t burn it for long. One of the bikers rushed forward in a fit of rage and kicked over the grill, sending embers flying. He then doused it as members of the pro-flag crowd chanted “USA! USA!”

The bikers then started trying to rough up the protesters — who were quickly saved by members of the same police force that they criticize.

The protesters were shielded by the cops and escorted out of the park.

“I served in the Marines,” said counterprotester Brian Christopher, 23. “We defend this flag. We are ready to die for it. When I see people burning it and showing complete ignorance, it’s very offensive.”

No arrests were made in the scuffle, and the group’s flag-burning stunt went up in smoke.

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Looks like the protesters got what they deserved. ;)
 
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Well

The intention of DISARMTHEPOLICE.COM is to encourage our Police Departments to become more functional and less threatening to the public by providing a forum where citizens can exchange concerns and initiate actions to improve the function of their Police Departments through public awareness and action.

All too frequently we hear about police shootings against the public that result in death when, in fact, lethal force should ALWAYS be the last resort. The problems we're seeing in the US are:
lethal force is being used prematurely

proliferation of a lack of trust toward law enforcement officers by the public

"us vs. them" mentality among law enforcement officers.

The first step in improving the relationship between the public and police officers is to remove deadly force from the officer's belt. Doing so encourages public involvement and curtails officer aggressiveness which can easily escalate situations resulting in unnecessary arrests and bodily harm.

Disarm the police . com - Our Mission

According to their mission statement they do not want to eliminate the police, just prevent them from carrying firearms. I guess they want the NYPD to be more like English Bobbies...only provided arms when they are needed. So they probably would be glad of police protection for their demonstration and this would not be in conflict with their mission statement.

Having said that, I disagree with their goals. First because I support the 2nd Amendment and a cop should be able to carry a gun just like I can. Second because deadly force may be required immediately as needed and can't wait for a SWAT team to show up.
 
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Freedom of speech, 2 ways.
 
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Not so sure we should be cheering this. I do not like US flag burning either, but what concerns me more is an individual's right to do so. Agree with the decision or not, the Supreme Court has ruled on is matter. The decision went so far as to say it is unconstitutional for a government (federal, state or local) to prohibit by law the desecration of the US flag. Symbolic speech (I think that was the term used in the decision) is covered by the action, or a statement made. When we cheer the intimidation by these bikers we cheer the suppression of rights even though a government was not involved, rights come with the inherent consequence that you will not like or agree with all you hear and see on the account of others. I am all for these bikers expressing their dissatisfaction with this and making that known to these protestors, but intimidation of other's rights is a road we do not want to go down.

Might be a story that makes you smile now (I'll admit, I did,) but it does not end well when you really think about what we are cheering.
 
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It's a shame it can't be more ways than just 2.

Why? Who else was there but the flag burners and the anti flag burners?
 
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Why? Who else was there but the flag burners and the anti flag burners?

I guess not. They must have forgotten their 3d glasses.
 
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Disgusting. Like it or not, we live in a civilized society - if they want to protest the protesters, and vocally oppose them, absolutely their right, but to attack anyone, no sympathy. You can go "Murica!" all you want, but interfering with one's freedom of speech, attacking people, because you're offended - even though it is legally protected expression - kinda, in my opinion, makes that shout of "Murica!" hypocritical, as you are attacking one of the greatest freedoms we have here.


On that note, I noticed a DISGUSTING trend when it comes to this issue - I've noticed, in comments on social media, etc about flag burning - people calling for the stripping of rights, assault, and even MURDER (to the internet's equivalent of roaring applause) of people who do this act of flag desecration (or any flag desecration for that matter). I personally find the act pointless, but the fact is, it is legally protected speech, in a country where freedom of speech/expression is meant to protect heinous and offensive expressions. You don't have to like it, and can be vocal about it - protest, express yourself, but Jesus Christ, the fact ANYONE puts a flag over the lives of fellow citizens, because said citizens offended them is abhorrent. To make matters even more grotesque, I've seen have veterans and even ACTIVE SERVICE MEMBERS chiming in, saying they would assault, or potentially murder people over this issue. I mean, yes, the flag holds more value than it would for most because of your service, but you're still representative of the U.S armed forces, what does an active service member advocating murdering fellow citizens because of an offensive, but legally protected act do for our already broken image?

EDIT: I HATE how hitting "save" after editing a post removes likes EVEN IF there are, byte for byte, absolutely no changes to the post in terms of the number of character/whitespace whatsoever. :doh :doh :doh
 
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The bikers might have gone too far. I don't like the idea of anyone burning the flag, but it is their right if they want to do so. However I think the bikers should not have attacked them. Sure the bikers could have just ridden circles around them and annoyed them a little but physically attacking them goes too far.
 
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Many Americans feel personally attacked when some asshole burns the American flag. Why should these attacks on this country be pleasant for the flag burners?

For the past fifty years, the politicians have been too anxious to find the right to destroy America a positive thing, an admirable goal to be respected, regardless of how the majority feel about it. It's time the America haters found out how we feel about them. I salute the biker's actions in this event.
 
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Thugs behaving thuggishly against people expressing their freedom of speech. I can see how certain conservatives would support that.
 
Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

Many Americans feel personally attacked when some asshole burns the American flag. Why should these attacks on this country be pleasant for the flag burners?

For the past fifty years, the politicians have been too anxious to find the right to destroy America a positive thing, an admirable goal to be respected, regardless of how the majority feel about it. It's time the America haters found out how we feel about them. I salute the biker's actions in this event.

Flag burning is a protected right, as much as I and others don't like it. However physically attacking someone for doing something you don't like is wrong.
 
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Many Americans feel personally attacked when some asshole burns the American flag. Why should these attacks on this country be pleasant for the flag burners?

For the past fifty years, the politicians have been too anxious to find the right to destroy America a positive thing, an admirable goal to be respected, regardless of how the majority feel about it. It's time the America haters found out how we feel about them. I salute the biker's actions in this event.

so, if i destroyed the confederate flag flying from your truck, or your home, because i did not like the negative connotation of that flag regarding American values, you would agree that i had done nothing wrong?
i don't think so
 
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So bikers, the guys who so adamantly espouse "freedom & the American way", decide to trample on the protesters' freedom of speech, assembly, and Constitutional rights as Americans?

It would seem as they see it, 'freedom' and the 'Constitution' don't count for other's beside them.

And pardon me, if I call that 'Bigotry'.
 
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Right because bike gangs are really the image of "patriotism" we need to regale... NOT! They're quite often criminals, murderers, drugs dealers, .... really, this is somehow good?

And protesting police brutality is saying that the police should do their jobs properly, not that police should disappear. The only way these protesters would be hypocrites is if after the bikers were in hand cuffs or detained, the protesters suggested they should be mistreated, artificially set up to appear guilty, tased, shot, sodomized with inanimate objects, .... I don't think they did that. People protest abuses by police, not the concept of police over all.

You folks are just so black and white in your thinking... police can do no wrong, and anyone who wants the police to obey the laws and honorable conduct somehow want the police to disappear and do nothing.

Such childish perspectives.

Perfect analysis.
 
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The bikers might have gone too far. I don't like the idea of anyone burning the flag, but it is their right if they want to do so. However I think the bikers should not have attacked them. Sure the bikers could have just ridden circles around them and annoyed them a little but physically attacking them goes too far.

Seems to be a majority opinion here that while desecrating the flag is a bit disturbing, it's been declared a constitutional liberty by the SCOTUS, and that the protesters were in fact not hypocritical in their actions, but that indeed the bikers were.
 
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Flag burning is a protected right, as much as I and others don't like it. However physically attacking someone for doing something you don't like is in fact, not protected.[/QUOTE]

Fixed it for you HLG!
 
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Looks like the protesters got what they deserved. ;)

Man with avatar of Rebel Flag says "freedom' and rights only extend to those like him..... :doh
 
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So bikers, the guys who so adamantly espouse "freedom & the American way", decide to trample on the protesters' freedom of speech, assembly, and Constitutional rights as Americans?

It would seem as they see it, 'freedom' and the 'Constitution' don't count for other's beside them.

And pardon me, if I call that 'Bigotry'.

Well they used to be soldiers too. Pretty much polar opposite of a biker. Lol delayed teenage rebellion.
 
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