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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    If I should ever feel the need for your wikilaw instruction on the meaning of the First Amendment, I will let you know.



    I believe it is exactly that. Next you'll be trying to tell us that the members of a Nazi group are not declaring their hatred of Jews by wiping their muddy shoes on an image of the Star of David.



    I have another explanation, the obvious one--they are disloyal bastards who live in this country and take advantage of it, even while they continually run it down and carry water for its enemies.



    I am sure everyone who has read your many other posts knows how much you like this country. And I am sure they will take your noble defense of the freedom of speech for all it is worth.
    I love America and have never criticized it. I have however criticized American leadership that has advanced very bad foreign policy. And American leadership is a tiny fraction of the American population and of America itself. Most Americans have nothing to do whatsoever with USFP, the role of the CIA or of the military for that matter, I think at any time perhaps 1-2% of Americans are in the military! a far smaller number in the CIA, and smaller number yet advancing policy abroad. Those are the things I am critical of, and as a citizen, voter and tax payer, it's my civic duty to involve myself such. Otherwise, when you criticize Obama and the democrats as you do routinely, one could argue that your hating on and bashing America.

    Only those who support the freedom of speech selectively as you do make a mockery of it.

    I'll school you on the inclusive nature of our first amendment every single time I find you using it selectively.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Eh. Quite frankly, I think there are quite a few people in this country who could benefit having some sense and common courtesy forcibly knocked into them.

    One of the primary downsides of "civilization" has always been its tendency to coddle preening morons and allow their destructive and disruptive antics free expression. To paraphrase a famous quote here, "every move society has made to limit the power of physically strong psychopaths has simply made it that much easier for cunning psychopaths to seize power instead."

    Every once in a while, a solid punch in the face is really the only response a certain situation calls for.
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    i hope the military sees your perspective as you wash out of warrant officer school. those aberrant views and leadership positions do not go together
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ^ that must be a contender for most stupid post on the internet
    I don't think so, I think it's relevant and reasonable under the circumstances provided. There's no need for these strong personal attacks, disguised as attacks on the post. If you're unable to counter my arguments, it's probably best not to post rather than leap for the standard hate and personal attacks.

    I can tell you another one that required physical intervention I'm sure that you will agree with and that is when two homosexuals spit on Father Jonathan Morris, a frequent Fox contributor, on the streets of New York on the day of the Supreme Court pro-gay verdict. Even you would have intervened in that one, wouldn't you?

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A group of law abiding citizens is attacked by a mob of right wing thugs, and unsurprisingly, some DPers approve
    Quoted for truth.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    wow
    i hope the military sees your perspective as you wash out of warrant officer school. those aberrant views and leadership positions do not go together
    You clearly don't understand the military very well.

    I've seen 2 Star Generals storm into Brigade HQs and start hurling furniture because a junior ranking officer therein dared to miss one of their briefings. Lol

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Many Americans feel personally attacked when some asshole burns the American flag. Why should these attacks on this country be pleasant for the flag burners?

    For the past fifty years, the politicians have been too anxious to find the right to destroy America a positive thing, an admirable goal to be respected, regardless of how the majority feel about it. It's time the America haters found out how we feel about them. I salute the biker's actions in this event.
    You support violence against people exercising their First Amendment rights? Yeah, there's a surprise.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Eh. Quite frankly, I think there are quite a few people in this country who could benefit having some sense and common courtesy forcibly knocked into them.

    One of the primary downsides of "civilization" has always been its tendency to coddle preening morons and allow their destructive and disruptive antics free expression. To paraphrase a famous quote here, "every move society has made to limit the power of physically strong psychopaths has simply made it that much easier for cunning psychopaths to seize power instead."

    Every once in a while, a solid punch in the face is really the only response a certain situation calls for.
    The Left has held violent protests for decades now and have largely been supported or have received less criticism from the media. Now it seems many Americans have become fed up with their antics and are beginning to respond.

    This reaction has been predicted for quite some time and could be the beginning of something much larger.

    These photos of leftists in action are hardly comparable to the response of the adolescent burning of the American flag. https://www.google.ca/search?q=left+...tsers+violence

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by NonoBadDog View Post
    I am surprised at the posts on here. Some of them I want to disagree with and can't. This whole situation is like stupid collides with stupid. Nether side is actually thinking. Drama meets drama. I have a hard time relating to either side in this one. I think that is a good thing.
    Well, what is your position then, spit it out.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The First Amendment guarantees flag-burning against government. It does not guarantee the safety of flag burners from attack by outraged Americans. It's hardly a surprise these shameful specimens ran from a fight.
    You know what does gaurantee their safety? Laws against assault. Throw those thug bikers in jail.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    I don't think so, I think it's relevant and reasonable under the circumstances provided. There's no need for these strong personal attacks, disguised as attacks on the post. If you're unable to counter my arguments, it's probably best not to post rather than leap for the standard hate and personal attacks.

    I can tell you another one that required physical intervention I'm sure that you will agree with and that is when two homosexuals spit on Father Jonathan Morris, a frequent Fox contributor, on the streets of New York on the day of the Supreme Court pro-gay verdict. Even you would have intervened in that one, wouldn't you?
    you do acknowledge the physical assault upon father morris was wrong
    yet you condone the physical attack upon the flag protesters

    notice that your position is devoid of any consistency and logic
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    The Democrats couldn't be more tone deaf if they had their eardrums incinerated with a hot poker.
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    Why confuse things with facts?

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