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Flag burners get attacked by bikers[W:634]

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JANFU said:
By conducting a perfectly legal demonstration?
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Read what I was responding too, it isnt what you think.

But at any rate nothing really happened at that protest. A couple people tried to burn some flags in a habatchi. But some pissed off people stopped them, got in their faces a few pushes, no one got hurt because the police already at the event stopped anything from actually happening. No one was shot, there was no blood, just some bruised ego's. And guess what; their message still got out. I am betting that both sides went home happy that day.
 
sangha said:
quelle surprise
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:) Hey, I couldn't help but notice you didn't respond to the question?

I'm gonna bet that my initial post, which said that those actual attacks had waned over the past decade or two, is correct, and that the majority of the events you describe happened a while back? :)
 
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GunFora said:
Correct...however, there are times when it's necessary and even expected. Perhaps the whiny flag-burners didn't have the ass whoopin' coming. Evidently, others disagree.
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Except of course no 'ass whoopin' ' happened, just typical punk bullying. I'd opine if the bikers had delivered an 'ass whoopin' ' they would be bonding out of jail.

I often wonder just what mental process occurs to justify attacking someone not threatening the life or liberty of others (the standard firearm owners use ) Attacking the protesters was NOT necessary, but rather the bikers wanted to.

I have to wonder why violence is justified by some when no threat is at hand but if the same happened to them they would they be so cavalier?
 
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notquiteright said:
Except of course no 'ass whoopin' ' happened, just typical punk bullying. I'd opine if the bikers had delivered an 'ass whoopin' ' they would be bonding out of jail. I often wonder just what mental process occurs to justify attacking someone not threatening the life or liberty of others (the standard firearm owners use ) Attacking the protesters was NOT necessary, but rather the bikers wanted to.
I have to wonder why violence is justified by some when no threat is at hand but if the same happened to them they would they be so cavalier?
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Here are some examples of 'protesters' acting out their fantasies. Bikers, and others, probably had their fantasies as well when these protesters were causing millions of dollars in damage while making the streets unsafe for everyone. It seems that only Leftist protests are acceptable, and any violence committed by them will be overlooked or played down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QngE6kKk8Lg
 
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notquiteright said:
I have to wonder why violence is justified by some when no threat is at hand but if the same happened to them they would they be so cavalier?
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Sadly, sometimes violence is necessary. In this case, probably not, but it's difficult to say what was going through the individual minds of the bikers.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Lol I did not say that there was even a riot in this case, much less that the moron's burning flags incited one.

But you were saying something about how person A cant be responsible for person B's actions. So I presented a situation where indeed person A does have a certain amount of legal responsibility when scheduling events like burning the American flag or even that loser flag that the KKK loves so much.

keep in mind though that there is video of a protester at the flag burning event that asserted that they did it because it fires people up, and attracts the media. The point of their flag burning was to piss people off. And thats just what happened wasnt it? I am sure that they wish that the cops would have beat them up, that would have worked for them. Their next one should be even more fun.
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On looky... A conservative authoritarian wishing the police would assault the public for using their first amendment rights. How not surprising.
 
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poweRob said:
On looky... A conservative authoritarian wishing the police would assault the public for using their first amendment rights. How not surprising.
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I like that poweRob!
 
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Montecresto said:
I like that poweRob!
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It's the difference between Republicans and real libertarians. And the essential reason I respect those real libertarians.
 
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poweRob said:
On looky... A conservative authoritarian wishing the police would assault the public for using their first amendment rights. How not surprising.
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Bwhahaha your hyper partisan bias is showing. I am not a conservative, nor a republican, or even a libertarian. And I am certainly not a authoritarian.
And I did not say anything about wanting the police to assault anyone. I did say though that the occupy/anarchists that organized the hate filled flag burning protest would have been happy had the police attacked someone there anyone really.


That was entertaining of you though, it made your position quite clear; anything to make conservatives look bad.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Bwhahaha your hyper partisan bias is showing. I am not a conservative, nor a republican, or even a libertarian. And I am certainly not a authoritarian.
And I did not say anything about wanting the police to assault anyone. I did say though that the occupy/anarchists that organized the hate filled flag burning protest would have been happy had the police attacked someone there anyone really.


That was entertaining of you though, it made your position quite clear; anything to make conservatives look bad.
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Yes. You are an undeclared independent for sure. I mean it's so obvious from your posts. :lamo
 
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poweRob said:
Yes. You are an undeclared independent for sure. I mean it's so obvious from your posts. :lamo
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Lol tell that to the people on this site that accuse my of being a liberal by looking at my posts.

I suspect that since you were competently unable to comprehend what I actually said that you really have no clue at all what I have been posting.

Ill make it easy for your intellect:

1. Peaceful protesters have the same rights as non protesters and counter protesters.

2. No one has the right to assault someone else.

3. Americans have the right to voice their opinion.

4. Pushing can be assault.

5. The protesters and counter protesters were ALL BEING ASSHOLES.

6. The police most likely stopped one set of assholes from actually hurting the other set of assholes.

7. I dont support people assaulting other people.

8. I am not a supporter of any of the assholes that pushed or yelled at the other assholes.

9. I am not at all pissed off the private citizens engaged in a protest and some other private citizens came to **** with them.

10. I agree in principle that American citizens should stop people from burning the American flag.

11. I personally would support the burning of the confederate flag(s), those flags are a stain on this country and represent anti-Americanism and slavery and are the flags of losers.

12. Liberals and Conservatives are the main problem with politics and this country, next in line are the far right and the far left ie libertarians and occupiers.
 
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Summerwind said:
I thought only rightwingers made up bullcrap to try to cover an obvious screw up. The law cannot be "taken into the hands" of anyone unless there's a law being broken, that's just language, not really up for debate. I can't take the law into my own hands against my rapist, unless he/she broke the law, ie raped me. A father can't take the law in to his own hands against his child's murderer, unless a law was broken, ie murder. The flag burners were not breaking any law, so the thugs couldn't be "taking the law into their own hands," because no law was broken.
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That is what I was taught as a youngster, Did some checking on the net and you were right.
Please accept from the heart, my apology.
 
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GunFora said:
You never had to hit anyone in your entire life?
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Depends. Are you counting sparing in martial arts class or spanking children? Note, spanking not beating. Otherwise the answer is no. And I am sure that actually goes for a majority of people.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
12. Liberals and Conservatives are the main problem with politics and this country, next in line are the far right and the far left ie libertarians and occupiers.
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Libertarians are neither right or left, and certainly not far on either side. As a rule of thumb they are fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
 
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Lovebug said:
Freedom of speech, 2 ways.
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Burning a countries flag is a form of a symbolic speech and is a form of freedom of speech.

"Gregory Lee Johnson burned an American flag outside of the convention center where the 1984 Republican National Convention was being held in Dallas, Texas. Johnson burned the flag to protest the policies of President Ronald Reagan. He was arrested and charged with violating a Texas statute that prevented the desecration of a venerated object, including the American flag, if such action were likely to incite anger in others. A Texas court tried and convicted Johnson. He appealed, arguing that his actions were "symbolic speech" protected by the First Amendment. The Supreme Court agreed to hear his case."
Facts and Case Summary - Texas v. Johnson | United States Courts

Physical harm to someone who is not posing an immediate physical threat is not protected under the first amendment.
 
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maquiscat said:
Depends. Are you counting sparing in martial arts class or spanking children? Note, spanking not beating. Otherwise the answer is no. And I am sure that actually goes for a majority of people.
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No. I'm counting hitting another person out of anger...primarily males. I would be willing to be the number of males who have hit someone in anger sometime in their life is well over 50%.
 
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Disarm the police.........damn that's brilliant!
 
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