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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    No.

    But at least the state will no longer fly a flag that says "We hate niggers".
    they still do



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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You realize that NOBODY is arguing this right. So you're making fun of an argument that was never made. How does that feel? Your comment reads like a toddler stomping his feet after somebody took his toy.
    Actually people were making that argument

    There's evidence to suggest that merely seeing the Confederate flag makes a person act slightly more racist.
    The Science of Why Taking Down the Confederate Flag Matters - NationalJournal.com

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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The flag doesnt say that. YOU say that. Some make it mean that. The Confederte flag nomore means that than the US flag does.

    BTW...thats late senator Robert Byrd on the horse...selected for his excellent riding skills and commitment to 'the flag'.
    The swastika has it's origins dating back to ancient China, but if you're flying it generally means you hate jews. We don't need a swastika flying over a state capitol. It kinda sends the wrong message.
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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Why is the response from the right to a little bit of progress always to bemoan that it won't make everything perfect?
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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    The swastika has it's origins dating back to ancient China, but if you're flying it generally means you hate jews. We don't need a swastika flying over a state capitol. It kinda sends the wrong message.
    The Confederate Battle Flag is not a Nazi swastika. Some have used it as a symbol of oppression, just as some have used the US flag for the same purpose.

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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Wrong, this point needs to be brought up.

    I agree that the State should not be flying this flag at the capital. I get it. But these arguments for pressure on private businesses and old Confederate burial grounds brings up the point for us. Remove all the flags, even go so far as to outlaw, and you are left with the conclusion that racial hatred is not cured. Only education does this, which will be submarined by efforts to rewrite it.
    I believe most who are advocate against the flag are not suggesting it be banned, just not flown at the capital (a point you agree with). If a business doesn't want to sell it, that's on them and it's outside of what most people are asking for.

    Unless you can show that people the majority are fighting to have it banned outright, cause I've neither heard nor read anyone suggesting that.
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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Where does that article state "Now that the flag is down there will be no more racism and no one will ever get shot again" because that's what you posted and nobody has said that.
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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The Confederate Battle Flag is not a Nazi swastika.
    It has the same meaning for many, black and non-black. Just like the swastika, you can believe it's not offensive, but that just doesn't pan out when rubber meets the road.

    Why do find this so hard to understand?
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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The flag doesnt say that. YOU say that. Some make it mean that. The Confederate flag no more means that than the US flag does.

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    BTW...
    thats late senator Robert Byrd on the horse...s
    elected for his excellent riding skills and commitment to 'the flag'.


    Looks like Strom Thurmond to me.

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    Re: SC Confederate Flag Taken Down From State Capitol in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Wrong, this point needs to be brought up.

    I agree that the State should not be flying this flag at the capital. I get it. But these arguments for pressure on private businesses and old Confederate burial grounds brings up the point for us. Remove all the flags, even go so far as to outlaw, and you are left with the conclusion that racial hatred is not cured. Only education does this, which will be submarined by efforts to rewrite it.
    And, again, nobody is saying that removing Confederate flags will "cure" racial hatred. So what the **** are you talking about?
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