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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is part of the problem that it could, however, get around, if we all agreed on a robust and dependable method.
    You mean you're an advocate for the UN to become militarized so as to be able to enforce the will of the UNSC.
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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Why should we care about Iran's version? It would not likely be the truth.
    Correct.

    We americans are very lucky that our government has such a solid reputation for truth-telling.

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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep, because of their superior firepower, the Iranian navy is just itching to get into a shooting match with the US.

    As the naval warfare service branch of the Islamic Republic of Iran's armed forces, it has traditionally been the smallest branch of the Iranian military and is tasked mainly with securing Iran's ports and coastline. Over time, the Iranian Navy has changed its mission to primarily anti-piracy...............

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla...c_of_Iran_Navy
    People stupidly poke sticks at tigers too. And if the ship is crewed by people who don't have an aversion to dying for their cause..........
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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    People stupidly poke sticks at tigers too. And if the ship is crewed by people who don't have an aversion to dying for their cause..........
    We don't even know if this happened. We don't know if it happened, but wasn't an Iranian ship at all. I can buy an Iranian flag on line. We do know that there's a significant number of people that can't wait for Iran to be the next ME country that we wage war against.
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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We don't even know if this happened. We don't know if it happened, but wasn't an Iranian ship at all. I can buy an Iranian flag on line. We do know that there's a significant number of people that can't wait for Iran to be the next ME country that we wage war against.
    I'm not one of those. I've had my fill of dead kids. But you can't dismiss simply because it would be courting suicide for them to do it.
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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I do believe all this started with Obama giving back several hundred billion in sanctioned funds. And the oil is now flowing to Europe again so they are happy
    Since the Iranians were adamant about the sanctions being lifted on the same day that the agreement was signed, what are we still negotiating if the agreement is a done deal? Have the other countries involved also lifted their sanctions? Is Kerry back home now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I'm not one of those. I've had my fill of dead kids. But you can't dismiss simply because it would be courting suicide for them to do it.
    That's good news. I'm not dismissing it, as I said in my first post, I'd like to hear Iran's side of this. At any rate, Iran's not going to attack a US naval ship with a merchant ship. Hell, they're not even going to do it with a navy ship. Though if and when we get ready to go to war with them, I'm satisfied that we'll be told that they did that. Or maybe they'll scare us with that line, "do we have to wait for the smoking gun that comes in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city"!!!!!!!
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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Since the Iranians were adamant about the sanctions being lifted on the same day that the agreement was signed, what are we still negotiating if the agreement is a done deal? Have the other countries involved also lifted their sanctions? Is Kerry back home now?
    Hey Pol. There was a lot of shouting and finger pointing at the last session and John Kerry essentially told Iran, look, this is the best deal your going to get, take it or leave it. Iran is accusing the US of moving the goal posts which Russia seems to agree with. The deadlines been pushed back five times. Seems like we should really have something Monday, and Obama's already said he'll walk away before agreeing to a bad deal.
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    Re: Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hey Pol. There was a lot of shouting and finger pointing at the last session and John Kerry essentially told Iran, look, this is the best deal your going to get, take it or leave it. Iran is accusing the US of moving the goal posts which Russia seems to agree with. The deadlines been pushed back five times. Seems like we should really have something Monday, and Obama's already said he'll walk away before agreeing to a bad deal.
    I wonder when the US will get as tough with Israel about its nuclear weapons ?

    Oops I forgot ....Ssssh we are not allowed to bring up that blatant double standard on what is primarily US forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I wonder when the US will get as tough with Israel about its nuclear weapons ?

    Oops I forgot ....Ssssh we are not allowed to bring up that blatant double standard on what is primarily US forum
    I agree with you on that. Obama's been as tough on Israel as any president we've had, and don't forget, for 75-80% of Americans! Israel can do no wrong, so unfortunately it's a heavy lift for a president to deal with Israel as we ought to. How do you folks in the UK (the citizenry I mean) feel about Israel in this regard? I did see that Cameron called Gaza a prison camp.
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