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    South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday



    Saying South Carolina's history has forever changed, Gov. Nikki Haley signed a bill Thursday to relegate the Confederate flag to the state's "relic room," more than 50 years after the rebel banner began flying at the Statehouse to protest the civil rights movement.

    Compelled to act by the slaughter of nine African-Americans at a church Bible study, Gov. Nikki Haley praised lawmakers for acknowledging that the long-celebrated symbol is too painful and divisive to keep promoting.


    "The Confederate flag is coming off the grounds of the South Carolina Statehouse," Haley said before signing the bill. "We will bring it down with dignity and we will make sure it is stored in its rightful place."
    A governor whose parents are Indian, surrounded by blacks and whites, signing a bill to remove a symbol of hatred 50 years after it was put there by a government that had just 2 years earlier enforced segregation. Gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states and my Cuban wife just made me tamales. What a time to be alive.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    And yet liberals all over the country still can't explain what difference this will make. Will depressed deprived people somehow not find symbols of hate to use to justify their hatred? Will they somehow stop using the Confederate flag to do it? Will anything really change at all? This has been something liberals have wanted to do for decades and not once in that time period have they convinced the south that their flag is about racism. The polls still to this very day in fact say that 57% of the population disagrees with them. I suppose however it fine to stand for democracy and ignore the people. Hell, with liberals it's just rhetoric. The people are what matters is what I'm told by them constantly, but I suppose ignoring them when it suits you is fine too. Funny how that works.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And yet liberals all over the country still can't explain what difference this will make.
    South Carolina has now joined other states in rebuking confederate ideology and all it includes. Don't like it? Move to Somalia.

    This has been something liberals have wanted to do for decades and not once in that time period have they convinced the south that their flag is about racism.
    And yet, South Carolina has removed the flag. That seems like a sign of progress.

    The polls still to this very day in fact that 57% of the population disagrees with them.
    That's nice. So?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    South Carolina has now joined other states in rebuking confederate ideology and all it includes. Don't like it? Move to Somalia.
    You could have moved to Somalia instead of ignoring the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You could have moved to Somalia instead of ignoring the people.
    Oooh, sick comeback! So let me get this straight, legislators follow the procedures they established in order to remove the flag which is what your side has been arguing for a while, and you now the opinion of the people becomes important?
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's nice. So?
    I thought you liberals cared what the people think on issues? Why do you forget it when it comes to certain issues? Is that something I'm not supposed to notice?

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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post




    A governor whose parents are Indian, surrounded by blacks and whites, signing a bill to remove a symbol of hatred 50 years after it was put there by a government that had just 2 years earlier enforced segregation. Gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states and my Cuban wife just made me tamales. What a time to be alive.
    My mother took one look at my Filipina wife and said, "I wish you'd just married a black girl!" At the time, it was obvious that 'black' wasn't the exact word she wanted to say, but she was trying to be nice. In the town I grew up in (8 miles from where I grew up with my family in the MS Delta), I remember how in 1984 - twenty years after the Civil Rights Act - the only doctor in town still had separately-labeled entrances for whites and coloreds (yes, that is true). And to this day, what's left of my family in Mississippi still wonders where they went wrong, how I could possibly not see the world as they do, especially since I publicly support that Kenyan/Muslim/Socialist/Atheist/Communist/Nazi in the White House, y'know (and didja notice he's (gasp!) black????)

    Yes, it is indeed a good time to be alive! It's been a pretty crappy day, but your post helped me to remember that things really are getting a lot better. Thanks!
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I thought you liberals cared what the people think on issues?
    If the problem was SC following the procedure to remove the flag, it has been done. The opinion of the people was irrelevant when it was put there, it remains irrelevant now that it has been removed.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oooh, sick comeback! So let me get this straight, legislators follow the procedures they established in order to remove the flag which is what your side has been arguing for a while, and you now the opinion of the people becomes important?
    Hey, can't I only care about the people sometimes too? I thought you guys were all about equal treatment and stuff.

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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And yet liberals all over the country still can't explain what difference this will make. Will depressed deprived people somehow not find symbols of hate to use to justify their hatred? Will they somehow stop using the Confederate flag to do it? Will anything really change at all? This has been something liberals have wanted to do for decades and not once in that time period have they convinced the south that their flag is about racism. The polls still to this very day in fact say that 57% of the population disagrees with them. I suppose however it fine to stand for democracy and ignore the people. Hell, with liberals it's just rhetoric. The people are what matters is what I'm told by them constantly, but I suppose ignoring them when it suits you is fine too. Funny how that works.
    Ask the millions of blacks who are still alive and remember very clearly what life under Jim Crow was like, what difference taking down that flag will make.

    But I forget - this is you, and as far as I've seen, you automatically dismiss any answer someone gives you that doesn't agree with what you already believe.
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