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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Marla View Post
    Not sure if I understand that.
    It means that what you wish to do with your money and your time is your decision to make. I do not think it is my place to tell people what they should care about or how they should live their lives. If they wish to spend their money and time on helping those in need then I support their decision, but if they don't, well, while that is a shame, it's their decision to make.

    I won't argue that welfare is an abused governmental program full of holes in need of fixing. However, it does not make those who truly need it as being helpless or hopeless as many Libertardians will have me to believe. You simply cannot generalize people who are on some form of governmental assistance as being second-class, or in many cases, non-citizens. I used to work with homeless people to find housing, health and dental care, even some form of employment in order to achieve a better quality of life. Many were not looking for a handout or to be dependent but suffered from mental and/or physical illnesses that limited their ability to function as a "normal" adult human being. So why, for example can you as a Libertardian deny such individuals the opportunity for a better quality of life in good conscience?
    It is my opinion people are not owed a certain quality of life at others peoples expense. If you are benefiting from the property of someone else against that persons will then I simply do not think that I am wrong in taking that benefit away. I feel that the way to a more caring society is not one through government welfare, but one by which the people take it on themselves to care for their fellow man. Maybe that is a naive position to take, but I do not feel that a coercive system of care will ever bring about a better world.

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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

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    A governor whose parents are Indian, surrounded by blacks and whites, signing a bill to remove a symbol of hatred 50 years after it was put there by a government that had just 2 years earlier enforced segregation. Gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states and my Cuban wife just made me tamales. What a time to be alive.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Doesn't Nikki Haley know what she did here? The Republicans are all racists. As Joe Biden said, they want to put blacks back in chains. Haley blew it. I wonder if the GOP will toss her out now. Not share their racist code words with her anymore. I wonder if the left will support her the next time she runs for office.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I would love to see what change taking this flag down will have on their life in any sort of way.
    And that shows your complete lack of empathy and utter failure to see the need for such.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Doesn't Nikki Haley know what she did here? The Republicans are all racists. As Joe Biden said, they want to put blacks back in chains. Haley blew it. I wonder if the GOP will toss her out now. Not share their racist code words with her anymore. I wonder if the left will support her the next time she runs for office.
    The left will never support her regardless of what she does.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He's not providing two strict choices. He's questioning what difference it makes to leave it up if it makes no difference to take it down.
    The difference is in whether or not we as voters see our elected reps cave in to PC demands of some faux outrage that was started on opportunity, and false narrative....Personally, IF the people of SC wanted the flag moved to a museum, and spoke through referendum then that would have been proper, but these reps took the easy way out, using their power to cave in to the 'race rage' crowd who took this tragedy, and used it to force an issue that was never the cause of their pain....But I understand that is how progressivism works. I just fear the day when this type of thing keeps going.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And that shows your complete lack of empathy and utter failure to see the need for such.
    The need to remove the flag was what exactly?

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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The need to remove the flag was what exactly?
    Feelings....That's the only thing that matters to the hard left.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The left will never support her regardless of what she does.
    I think I can say with confidence that the "left" STRONGLY supports Nikki Haley signing this bill.

    So... you're wrong.
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    Re: South Carolina governor: Confederate flag comes down Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Feelings....That's the only thing that matters to the hard left.
    We can't have hurt feelings. Ever again. For any reason.
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