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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Jenny Horne's tearful speech against Confederate flag - CNN.com

    See the speech here.



    Right on Jenny. Nailed it!
    Crocodile tears.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Of course it did. Stop it. It made Dylann Roof kill people. He wouldn't have killed anyone if they had removed that flag from the statehouse.

    And if Son of Sam's neighbor hadn't bought a black Labrador Retriever, David Berkowitz would have just been a big cuddly teddy bear all his life, and not terrorized New York City for an entire summer.
    Hey there TB :2wave

    You got that right....I think these kinds of actions in our governments these days are tests, to see how easily the mob can dictate what happens in the future....

    Between this sort of shaming, and the kind that sangha tries to do to stifle you just above, is really dishonest to say the least.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Emotion overcomes reason, and reason is what keeps us alive. In this case, in another setting, mental health workers would be restraining her, but here, it works, and it convinces others of the need for whatever is being argued...beyond reason.

    When I encounter such over the top emotions, I feel I am being manipulated. But then I have seen this whole flag mess as one big manipulation and diversion from the real problem. There are not going to be less shootings mass shootings because the Confederate flag was removed from the SC state house.
    That too.... I guess I should have included that as welll.... I feel like Im being manipulated

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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hey there TB :2wave

    You got that right....I think these kinds of actions in our governments these days are tests, to see how easily the mob can dictate what happens in the future....

    Between this sort of shaming, and the kind that sangha tries to do to stifle you just above, is really dishonest to say the least.
    This all seems to be stemming from people trying to assuage some guilt or something. If people in this country are stupid enough to believe that Dylann Roof did what he did because of the Confederate flag, then we're in really big trouble. Huge trouble.

    Jenny's tears were moving, but meaningless. People are pretending that removing that flag will mean something. It won't. And unless we're going to remove every symbol that may offend anyone in this country, this is all for show. And some sort of guilt. All I know is I never met anyone in my life who owned a slave in this country. And that's in spite of the Confederate flag flying in SC.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    It might or might not have been for show. How could you know? And while a few minutes in she cited the shooting as justification, earlier she talked about how her fellow representatives viewed the flag as a symbol of hate. When half of your (capitol) city sees it as a symbol of racism, are you doing your job when you refuse to take it down?
    That battle flag has only flow since 1950's 60's, I don't remember which, so taking it down should not be a much of a problem because it wasn't up since the beginning in the first place. It was put up for reasons of defiance. However crying crocodile tears is as lame a gambit as there is. Pathetic if you ask me. I would take the time to mock her every chance I could if I was a fellow legislator. She is as fake as they come and I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw an elephant and I would keep my eyes on my wallet at all time around her.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    She is proof we are a lost, soft, weak, pouty nation with zero spine and self respect.

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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This all seems to be stemming from people trying to assuage some guilt or something. If people in this country are stupid enough to believe that Dylann Roof did what he did because of the Confederate flag, then we're in really big trouble. Huge trouble.

    Jenny's tears were moving, but meaningless. People are pretending that removing that flag will mean something. It won't. And unless we're going to remove every symbol that may offend anyone in this country, this is all for show. And some sort of guilt. All I know is I never met anyone in my life who owned a slave in this country. And that's in spite of the Confederate flag flying in SC.
    Me neither, and I live in SC.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Jesus Christ woman, get a grip. The man was crazy and I assure you banning an inanimate object won't change that.
    If only they had taken that flag down three weeks ago 9 people might be alive today!

    It's interesting to correlate this with the previous uproar over the "Draw Mohammad" shooting.

    Following the "Draw Mohammad" shooting Democrats were falling all over themselves to condemn the event coordinator and shame them into avoid such offenses in the future. Now that it's an American terrorist the Democrats feel the need to attack everyone with a confederate flag...

    If another American Terrorist chose to shoot up an anti-Confederate flag demonstration how many Democrats do you think would blame the protestors for antagonizing the shooters?
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, you're so right......*sniffle*
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They have the right to believe whatever they want, but they don't have a right to their own facts. Even if the flag didn't exist he would have still killed those people.
    That is your belief. It is not a fact. You do not have a right to invent your own facts. I think you just said something very much like that.
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