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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I get emotional... but not when debating or trying to get a point across...as soon as I do, I lose.
    Getting emotional never does any good in a debate.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I always feel so uncomfortable when people get so emotional... It's my ingrained/brainwashed masculinity that sees it as weakness.


    it's just that... if your crying... I don't want to hear it, you're too emotionally invested and have gone out of control of yourself. Calm cool intellect and reasoning is all you need.

    Anyway... good that they got it taken down it seems


    Emotion overcomes reason, and reason is what keeps us alive. In this case, in another setting, mental health workers would be restraining her, but here, it works, and it convinces others of the need for whatever is being argued...beyond reason.

    When I encounter such over the top emotions, I feel I am being manipulated. But then I have seen this whole flag mess as one big manipulation and diversion from the real problem. There are not going to be less shootings mass shootings because the Confederate flag was removed from the SC state house.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I get emotional... but not when debating or trying to get a point across...as soon as I do, I lose.
    The idea that a human being can somehow magically separate themselves from their emotions is simply ridiculous. The views you hold today are formed by all that makes you up and that includes your own emotions. You can pretend that you are a version of an antiseptically cold Mr. Spock and your inner computer is free from all bias and prejudice and emotion - but it is simply not true.

    When I see right libertarians or hard conservatives brag about not letting their emotions impact their political decisions I simply have to laugh in contempt, scorn and derision. If you believe you can do that you are only fooling yourself.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're not going to get anything but an eye roll from me if you're crying for some inane reason.
    Lets hope nobody cries for "some inane reason". That is simply a sign of emotional instability.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Lets hope nobody cries for "some inane reason". That is simply a sign of emotional instability.
    Well that is what this woman did.

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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well that is what this woman did.
    Why do you find her reason "inane"?
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why do you find her reason "inane"?
    Because it is stupid....The flag did NOTHING to make anyone DO anything.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    From the grounds. Either way, Jesus could this woman be more irrational? Not only did she lose it just for the show and thought it would have an effect, but her justification was just ignorant.
    It might or might not have been for show. How could you know? And while a few minutes in she cited the shooting as justification, earlier she talked about how her fellow representatives viewed the flag as a symbol of hate. When half of your (capitol) city sees it as a symbol of racism, are you doing your job when you refuse to take it down?
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Because it is stupid....The flag did NOTHING to make anyone DO anything.
    Ah - I see. So because you disagree with here over an issue of public policy regarding the Confederate flag and what it may or may not stand for - that makes her reasons somehow someway INANE.

    It appears your response is an emotional one.

    But thats okay.
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    Re: Jenny Horne's tearful Confederate flag speech shakes S. Carolina statehouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    It might or might not have been for show. How could you know? And while a few minutes in she cited the shooting as justification, earlier she talked about how her fellow representatives viewed the flag as a symbol of hate. When half of your (capitol) city sees it as a symbol of racism, are you doing your job when you refuse to take it down?
    What proof does she have to support her case? That a few people view it as offensive? So what? A few people probably view the American flag as offensive. It's stupid to reference a few people and then follow that up with proclaiming it should be removed.

    And while I don't know if it was done for show, I do know that people do that crap when their case is weak and they are feeling they might not get their way. The evidence just suggests that it was fake and for show, sorry.
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