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To Help US Veterans Charity, George W. Bush Charged $100,000

CanadaJohn said:
And what we have learned is how petty and ignorant some are of the former President, of his true sense of ownership for the fate of the troops he sent into battle and the years he has spent and continues to spend working with and for them. You simply have to hear and read what those very troops have to say about the man.

I don't know the answer about what President and Mrs. Bush did with the collective $150,000 they received from their support of the event outlined in the OP, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the money went directly to the support of veterans in the direct work he does for them. Perhaps in coming days we'll hear something about that but knowing how President Bush has conducted himself since leaving office, I doubt very much he will be out in front of the cameras trying to counter this story - he just doesn't care what the media thinks or does.
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but his brother can and should be concerned what the media reports

dubya's money grubbing behavior, at the expense of troops injured in dubya's wars, is unconscionable

jeb needs to distance himself from that. fail to do so, and his candidacy is toast
 
justabubba said:
jeb needs to criticize his brother's money grab at the injured soldiers' expense
otherwise, we voters would find that he condoned such unpatriotic behavior
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No he doesn't. What George did has nothing to do with him and the net result was 1.4 million dollars.

Would it have been better for the charity not to have the 1.4?
 
americanwoman said:
I think it's kind of tacky for anyone to accept payment for speaking or performing at a charity event. Most people who are asked to do so for their name or whatnot are wealthy enough to afford a coach plane ticket (God forbid) and a night at a motel 6 (oh hell no) so it should be more about how they can donate their time to the charity and even give something out of their pocket to do so. But yeah right you know. That's just my opinion and just know when I become an ex president or an international superstar rapper you can count on me to do your charity for free. But I'm not everyone and if people pay what these people are charging then I guess it works out for them.
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Do you think the ex-president can move around like that in a coach seat?
 
justabubba said:
but his brother can and should be concerned what the media reports

dubya's money grubbing behavior, at the expense of troops injured in dubya's wars, is unconscionable

jeb needs to distance himself from that. fail to do so, and his candidacy is toast
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How do you consider a 1.4M positive an expense?
 
justabubba said:
jeb needs to criticize his brother's money grab at the injured soldiers' expense
otherwise, we voters would find that he condoned such unpatriotic behavior
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So you will vote for Jeb if he condemns George?
 
Mason66 said:
Do you think the ex-president can move around like that in a coach seat?
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With a hat and a mustache anyone can. ;)

No seriously ok maybe not Bush that is a good point, I was talking most keynote speakers in general. An ex president might be an exception but still he's a retiree got a lot of time for a road trip. :)
 
justabubba said:
but his brother can and should be concerned what the media reports

dubya's money grubbing behavior, at the expense of troops injured in dubya's wars, is unconscionable

jeb needs to distance himself from that. fail to do so, and his candidacy is toast
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Your posts are getting more irrational and more desperate as the day goes on. I consider that unusual for you.
 
I have no issue with GWB charging a speakers fee and the travel arrangements. My only interest in this thread is the irony that those who are jumping to GWB's defense are by and large those who have taken to the board to criticize Hillary and others for charging similar fees for speaking. It is the hypocrisy that is glaring.
 
disneydude said:
I have no issue with GWB charging a speakers fee and the travel arrangements. My only interest in this thread is the irony that those who are jumping to GWB's defense are by and large those who have taken to the board to criticize Hillary and others for charging similar fees for speaking. It is the hypocrisy that is glaring.
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Did you mean people who criticize Bill Clinton for speaking engagements? Hillary is a candidate, not former POTUS. Why would anyone compare Hillary with GWB?

Bill Clinton's earned over $100 million in speaking engagements. I say good for him. Capitalism is awesome.
 
disneydude said:
I have no issue with GWB charging a speakers fee and the travel arrangements. My only interest in this thread is the irony that those who are jumping to GWB's defense are by and large those who have taken to the board to criticize Hillary and others for charging similar fees for speaking. It is the hypocrisy that is glaring.
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OK when Hillary or Bill charged that fee for the children's charity, what was the net positive for that charity that night?
 
justabubba said:
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no, let's assign some personal responsibility for repugnant action

the very president who needlessly sent these veterans into war that maimed them is now charging to speak at a fundraiser on their behalf

who the hell is cold enough to do that
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Greetings, justabubba. :2wave:

He didn't keep the fee, nor did he charge traveling expenses. And he raised over a million dollars for them, for which they're very thankful. Nice day's work where I come from. And he met every plane carrying the dead and wounded that arrived back home, and the families appreciated that and thanked him. I don't know if Obama did the same for the Afghanistan casualties since he's been POTUS, but I hope he has. People lost their loved ones in both places!

And lest we forget: Hillary, Kerry, and many other prominent Democrats made impassioned speeches on the Senate floor in favor of going to war with Iraq, and voted to do so. I can post them if you like, since they all saw the same intel that Bush did in order to reach their decision. If you are suggesting the intel was faulty or incorrect, then blame the intel services, including the British ones, but not Bush. And we did kill Saddam Hussein in 2006 after we found him cowering in a hole, and the Iraqi people were very happy to see both he and his cruel sons gone, so some good came from that war, although the price we paid was high. Such is war! :thumbdown:
 
BrewerBob said:
I get that. And it is ****ed up. Like I said, I don't begrudge the man making six figures for speaking or for raising money for charities. But this is a charity for wounded veterans of wars he started. It is NOT ok for him to profit off of that. Donating his time to veterans organizations for free is the LEAST he could do for them.
Maybe he turned around and gave that fee to the charity, in which case I would take back my criticism.
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I could be wrong, but helping to raise dollars for veteran groups probably is the least he does for veterans.
 
justabubba said:
a spouse is fair game while a sibling is not
why does that seem a partisan position in this instance

yet another apologist who insists dubya was appropriate in charging $100,000 to speak before a charitable organization helping the troops injured in his wars of choice
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Not what I said at all. There is a legal CONNECTION between Bill and Hillary that doesn't exist between Jeb and W. I made that point VERY clear and you still missed it. It's a simple and undeniable truth that you don't want to accept. So instead of addressingthe facts, you start making accusations and (probably intentionally) misinterpreting what I said.
 
Moon said:
Oh now you want to talk about the principle of the topic, instead of the silly hackish partisan comparison to Hillary you attempted before?
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Nope. I didnt criticize W here, dont really think I criticized Hillary about her price of speeches either. Just pointing out the clear hypocrisy and what its all about.

If the story is as reported, it's definitely not cool for Bush to charge the charity.
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Then, there we go.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Bill Clinton would get five times that much.
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tres borrachos said:
...to speak to veterans of wars that his wife voted to participate in.
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From the OP

A spokesperson for former President Bill Clinton said he "has never received" a speaking fee for addressing a veterans' group. A spokesperson for former President Bush’s father, George Herbert Walker Bush, said it has been several years since the elder Bush had given a speech, but said that he did not recall a fee being requested for charity events.
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The office of former President Bill Clinton said he has never received a speaking fee for addressing a veterans group. The office of former President Jimmy Carter said he has never taken money to speak to a veterans group.

Former President George W. Bush Was Paid $100K to Speak to Veterans Group - NBC News
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:2wave:
 
BWG said:
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:2wave:
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Oh wow. Well thanks for posting that. It was very important to make sure we didn't sully Bill Clinton's good name. We need to focus on petty partisan attacks on GWB.
 
tres borrachos said:
Oh wow. Well thanks for posting that. It was very important to make sure we didn't sully Bill Clinton's good name. We need to focus on petty partisan attacks on GWB.
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:lamo

I never even said he would get that with veterans.....I just said the greedy bastard would charge five times as much.
 
tres borrachos said:
Oh wow. Well thanks for posting that. It was very important to make sure we didn't sully Bill Clinton's good name. We need to focus on petty partisan attacks on GWB.
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attacking dubya for profiting on the injured soldiers he needlessly sent into combat

how dare the truth be exposed
 
justabubba said:
attacking dubya for profiting on the injured soldiers he needlessly sent into combat

how dare the truth be exposed
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I agree. We need more GWB threads. Can't talk about him enough. His speaking engagements are the biggest crises facing our country today.
 
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